ADHD, brought up a good point in another thread, that ever since Brawl's creation and the competitive scene started, MK's matchups have actually gone from even to his favor. To me, this shows me that the idea of MK being somewhat equal HAS been discussed, and in fact was the case. Look at some of the older tier lists, you'll see that MK was once held in S tier along with the top tier characters we now see in A. Eventually they realized you can't do that since it is true that he is better than every other character. Yes, i put it THAT bluntly. But it's true to an extent.
I agree with the anti-banners, that yes, it's not like Meta wins EVERY tourney, but have you ever gone to a tourney where a Meta doesn't make it far? I've been to only a few tourneys but EVERY doubles tourney turns into a MK & MK VS. MK & MK. That's the problem, in Melee, from what i see, yes there was the big 4, but it's not like every other character wasn't viable. It's not like Fox was automatically SO good that he could just use one move and completely demolished his opponent. I'm comparing this to nado, and why DK and bowser have a hard time dealing with it because of there large size. I wasn't a Melee player so pardon if my argument seems a bit off here, but when i'm bored and I look up a melee game, i always try to look at a non-top tier character. I've watched one where i saw a Mewtwo Vs Falco. I could tell, Mewtwo's biggest flaw was his up b having no hit frames making him easily ledge guarded, but watching him play i was brought back to "wow, he's really good" and to me, it doesn't look like the player was JUST THAT GOOD, but that in reality alot of characters in Melee were really good if you know how to use them.
My biggest problem with Meta is just how he rules the game. It's not right to read character threads and have to read things like "*blank attack* is good as it's your defense against nado." I shouldn't have to look at ONE move in the scheme of an attack just to make it good. In reality a good move is one that has multiple good uses, and it shouldn't be mentioned how it beats another one UNLESS it was a problem. The mention of nado shouldn't need to be mentioned unless there was the WILD IDEA that you may have to run into it. I learned recently that a well spaced Ike B-air can break nado cleanly... does that mean Ike should move up the tier list? Hey, that's what i read about Wolf's recent jump was his MK matchup.
Does one character really have the authority to shake the entire Tier list? No, i try to level with anti-banners, but honestly it seems like most of Meta's attacks make me think... A lot of Meta players will say essentially to "deal with it and learn to counter it" but we shouldn't HAVE to learn to counter it, when it actuality they don't HAVE to learn much against other players. It's the fact that a MK main, could never face the matchup of let's just say Mario and still do a decent job fighting it just because of the sheer strength of his character. Maybe Mario's a bad choice because of HOW low he is, but DK, and even D3 may never have to be studied for a MK main since his character is already good enough that the basic MK style can be used effectively on many characters (mainly mid to low tiered ones).
the argument that Meta would make people leave is true, but i think we'll win more back. I talk to a fair bit of casual Brawl players and it's the fact that they ALL know that Meta is the best, and even if they don't know why. I see videos on Youtube that make fun of the Brawl in the fact that "everyone plays Metaknight" and honestly, if he was banned, don't you think people may start thinking, "hey they banned MetaKnight, Want to enter a tourney" or something like that. Plus, i think we call ALL agree that the MK mains that don't quit won't just go Diddy or Snake but they'll probably settle on something else (probably Marth) I'm just saying the 20% of MK mains in brawl won't just all go to one character, it'll be more spread out.
I think that for the sake of fairness in the community, if people WANT to play Mario, DK, Link, Jiggly, Ness, Fox or any other mid to low tier. Let them, they should be able to play to put in REAL good competition to any character in the game. I almost have more respect for Poltergust being in the top 50 than any Meta that makes it to the top 10. Why? Because he HAS to deal with the constant spread of MK's and although you could use this in the Anti-ban argument, think about how hard Poltergust has to study to learn his character where as i know people who may not have mastered MK per se and all of a sudden become big in my scene?
This was a long post... but i stick true to it.
