The Official Falco Critique Thread

[Jon?]

hey guys I got some new vids up and am looking for some critique:

vs Lezard(Pit)
Match 1
Match 2

Please and thanks

You seem to play a slow game, but nonetheless I saw nothing wrong with your play style. The only thing I think you should work on is SHDL. I didn't see you use them very often.

 

[BleachigoZX]

I wish I had videos of myself.

All I have is a old Ness Vid...

 

[Cross.]

You seem to play a slow game, but nonetheless I saw nothing wrong with your play style. The only thing I think you should work on is SHDL. I didn't see you use them very often.

Meh thanks lol. i was mostly trying to make sure I could capitalize on all mistakes. I really want to play fast and flashy though xD. Some more vids are going up, around 4 more where I play different and get my *** kicked lol. SHDL...yeah I didn't really get much of a chane to use them

 

[Jon?]

I wish I had videos of myself.

All I have is a old Ness Vid...

I know how you feel. I don't have any videos of myself in 1v1s. I have some in teams, but my Falco is really bad in teams, lol. Whenever I play with my friends on a record-ready TV, they wouldn't let me save a really good game of me if they got 3 or 2 stocked.

Hopefully, I can get some videos of my Falco up soon later this week!

Edit*@GracefulAssassin: the only thing flashy I know is reverse boost pivots during a CG or a reverse boost pivots followed after a SHL. I recently went to a really tournament at an anime convention, where there were a lot of scrubs, and I managed to CG someone with boost pivot grabs on a Battlefield platform. Everyone was screaming! LOL, fun stuff if you can pull that stuff off at a big tourny.

 

[Zesty_Chicken]

I'll agree with Jon here, you did need some work with SHDLs. It also looked like you approaches were weak, try lazer-->DACUS, lazer-->RBPG, lazer-->lazer, DACUS, etc....

Lazer-->DACUS or RBPG are both kinda flashy. If you wanna play flashy, copy SK92's Battlefield playstyle. Lazer off of platform-->RBPG-->CG is too good. Basically, lazer off of the lower platforms into anything looks flashy.

BTW, the Pit costume looked bad***

 

[Cross.]

I'll agree with Jon here, you did need some work with SHDLs. It also looked like you approaches were weak, try lazer-->DACUS, lazer-->RBPG, lazer-->lazer, DACUS, etc....

Lazer-->DACUS or RBPG are both kinda flashy. If you wanna play flashy, copy SK92's Battlefield playstyle. Lazer off of platform-->RBPG-->CG is too good. Basically, lazer off of the lower platforms into anything looks flashy.

BTW, the Pit costume looked bad***

Thanks for the advice. None of that stuff is guaranteed though. Also, approach with lazer->Dacus? wouldnt it be better to save your upsmash for killing? And all the platform stuff doesnt work on that pit player anymore. I would run of the platform and laser->Bpg before until he just started running of it and fairing me But yeah Ill work on shdl.

 

[DEHF]

I'm going to tourney play in about a week and I think I have a good chance of winning the tournament. I just need to make sure I know some if not all of my bad habits here so I will know what to do more or less. I know a few of them already one of them being that I was spot dodging too much, but I want to know if there were anymore that I'm missing and if you see anything I could do more of that helps too.

me vs. m2k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntMr8iaPKp4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UXYAY01Yz4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDtngQ_C2vI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bYwrcrqVN8&feature=related

me vs. tyrant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0XDRSIpfVw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYeKfn2SMPg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKAMdhcHf78

 

[gunterrsmash01]

I posted this in the backroom but ill post here too
if you grab metaknight and they jump release, you get a free boost upsmash. I've done it many times . you have to do the full distance boost upsmash.

 

[Marcbri]

I posted this in the backroom but ill post here too
if you grab metaknight and they jump release, you get a free boost upsmash. I've done it many times . you have to do the full distance boost upsmash.

Yes but you can't force it so it's unlikely to happen.

Awesome matches DEHF, maybe you should shoot more lasers when the opponent is still far, and especially if they are recovering, I think you can get more damage there.

for the killing part maybe a full smash boost could have helped, though you still managed to kill soon in almost all the stocks.

I hope you win tourney play =D

 

[DEHF]

thanks marcbri and Ozz I'll keep that those things in mind I forgot to put my set against for critique

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jInMgvMantQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qEfNOCRH7E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnC9XOvfoO4&feature=related

 

[SK92]

DEHF its hard to critique you, you are good the way you are.

 

[GMo]

Where have you been? Haven't heard much from you in awhile.

EDIT: Directed to SK.

 

[Bloodcross]

I've been doing good in tourney recently, but I just want to know my weaknesses. Help appreciated, especially on the 2nd match (johns: choked lol). Maybe some help on alternative recovery on Lylat too, that stage is a *****.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMVLXv5CZR8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h58BTCcQO78 this contains
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hStHOqejVAU

 

[Emperor Time]

Am I the only one who thinks Nair works wonders on Olimar? :s

 

[Jon?]

@Bloodcross: You seem to do a lot of Jab-cancels to jump. Is there a reason for this? I am curious because I don't see this set up very often.

@Emperor Time: I love Nair against Olimar. It gets Pikmin off of yourself, it kills Pikmin in midair, and it's a great approach.

 

[metaike]

I'm just looking for Falco advice. I just started with him and i'm looking to improve. Just don't call me a n00b :D.

Round 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YJxkJUQauE

Round 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4jhCLfTDTc

 

[Jon?]

@Metaike: Too much upsmash and not enough lasers. You also didn't use a lot of Falco's moves.

It looked like the lag on wifi was messing you up. If you put up offline matches, you could get better critiques.

 

[metaike]

@Metaike: Too much upsmash and not enough lasers. You also didn't use a lot of Falco's moves.

It looked like the lag on wifi was messing you up. If you put up offline matches, you could get better critiques.

yeah it was thanks and yes wi fi sucks

 

[Teran]

It may be wifi, but there are still habits to pick up on.

Moar lasers.
Less Usmash.
Moar aerials, especially Bair.

OMG you roll more than me! o__o
Yeah, try not to roll so much, it's seldom necessary. I mean, yeah Falco's roll is pretty amazing, but it's really a better idea to go for something else.

Also, you should do the walking CG so there's no chance of tripping.

Practice practice young master!

 

[pure_awesome]

At 1:44 of the first movie, every fiber of my body was screaming for a SHDL Lock, DEHF.

Not that it would've made much of a difference lol.

 

[metaike]

It may be wifi, but there are still habits to pick up on.

Moar lasers.
Less Usmash.
Moar aerials, especially Bair.

OMG you roll more than me! o__o
Yeah, try not to roll so much, it's seldom necessary. I mean, yeah Falco's roll is pretty amazing, but it's really a better idea to go for something else.

Also, you should do the walking CG so there's no chance of tripping.

Practice practice young master!

I lol'd thanks

@Metaike: Too much upsmash and not enough lasers. You also didn't use a lot of Falco's moves.

It looked like the lag on wifi was messing you up. If you put up offline matches, you could get better critiques.

thanks, I'm not playing wifi anymore so yeah offline matches is a possibility :D

 

[Denzi]

At 1:44 of the first movie, every fiber of my body was screaming for a SHDL Lock, DEHF.

Not that it would've made much of a difference lol.

That would've been awesome.

I have a friend who pulled it off during some pre-tourney friendlies vs a Diddy player. Didn't get up to kill %s, but he managed somewhere close to 12 lasers and the Usmash, which isn't bad at all.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

BleachigoZX almost managed the platform laser lock on me earlier today. I was scared to death I would get caught in it, but I think it surprised him too much to continue, plus it was wifi.

 

[AvoiD]

For now, I only got WiFi matches, sorry.

Planning on going to Ozzfest this weekend with Xyro, hopefully some matches will get recorded.

Yeahh, lag effed us over way to much <_<.

vs. Evil E. [Snake] 1

vs. Evil E. [Snake] 2

vs. Blast [Snake] 1

Outta' all these players, we go pretty even. So don't think they suck just from the matches. Don't think I suck cause of all the ******** mistakes I made. I can clearly point them out as well, but, if you have any advice and all that, go ahead and say.

It's not my best games of laser usage, but I know when to camp when I need to, and when to laser if I should.

The only player you think should suck is King Zarthius of AiB : ) Nahh, he's actually pretty good, and his Falco is pure **** but he's the biggest johner ever lol. He can be cool when he wants. Heres a vid of me ****** his Metaknight though ^^.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-kZH2s_6Pw

 

[BleachigoZX]

BleachigoZX almost managed the platform laser lock on me earlier today. I was scared to death I would get caught in it, but I think it surprised him too much to continue, plus it was wifi.

Yeah I remember.
I was like "holycrap I gotta get it" Then I messed up my laser timing. I also remember laser locking you at the edge after a Firebird.
/lagjohns


Edit:
If I were to give someone videos would they mind uploadinng them for me on youtube?

 

[Denzi]

Edit:
If I were to give someone videos would they mind uploadinng them for me on youtube?

Videos, or Replays?

I can upload videos, but I don't have any way to record or anything, so replays are out of the question.

 

[BleachigoZX]

Darn, I meant Replays...

 

[Teran]

Ask Vlade nicely, he's able to record replays.

I'm sure he'd do so for a Falco Boarder, but don't expect ultra fast progress with the time difference and stuff.

 

[AvoiD]

Ask YoshQ on these forums. He's the one who uploaded my replays, and he gets it done pretty quick. Gave him the replays yesterday, got them this morning.

And thanks for the critiques. . >_>;

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

And thanks for the critiques. . >_>;

You and me seem to go even in our matches. Anything people tell you can help me xD

Ask Vlade nicely, he's able to record replays.

I'm sure he'd do so for a Falco Boarder, but don't expect ultra fast progress with the time difference and stuff.

*nod, nod* This is a very true statement. I asked Vlade to do some stuff for me awhile back (he was the one that said he could do it for me in the first place). A few months later, still nothing xD I haven't even been able to get him to load my FC code so I can sent replays. At least I got him to upload my Wii Code. It's a start xD

 

[AvoiD]

Yee, we kinda' play differently though haa.

Whatever works. We should have a specific Falco member to record our replays. Only with us as Falco that is.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

1st match against Evil E was pretty cool with the way everything looked.

 

[AvoiD]

Thanks, not my codes though, it was YoshQ's. ;o

And here's the fixed link for the Metaknight video I posted, last one in my other post with the vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-kZH2s_6Pw

 

[Tofuaddict]

Hey, I have uploaded some vids starring me.
I hope u guys could give me some critque for my Falco gameplay.
How I should improve ^^ because I have a tourney in Europe at 5 July.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHg8QO8SRq8 Fox(lesje) Vs Falco (Tofu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrvfll8E9XU Fox(lesje) Vs Falco (Tofu)

 

[ohaiduhg]

Check out my Falco after about a week's worth of playing him.
Be jealous of my unparalleled laser skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnMjyIq3ajU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL7qkI1UPS4

Alright critique or whatever.lol

 

[Vlade]

You and me seem to go even in our matches. Anything people tell you can help me xD



*nod, nod* This is a very true statement. I asked Vlade to do some stuff for me awhile back (he was the one that said he could do it for me in the first place). A few months later, still nothing xD I haven't even been able to get him to load my FC code so I can sent replays. At least I got him to upload my Wii Code. It's a start xD

I've added your fc like a few weeks ago XD

But in all seriousness, I can record replays if you want since exams are finally over >_>

Sorry I wasn't very quick Velox

 

[Exceladon City]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYLHjD2D3l4&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgO2ckfMORA&feature=channel

I gave up on Falco some weeks ago but while I was using him as a secondary I managed to get some footage. BTW I hate recovering to the ledge against Marth because I've eaten numerous tippers that way for some reason. Stupid sword...but yeah critique away.

 

[Conviction]

Well here is my video of my Falco he is my secondary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSPnVXPf4v8

Critique will be appreciated.

 

[Jon?]

@Oreo: You clearly seemed to outplay your opponent. I don't know what you could change. His counterpick stage didn't even make sense. If you upload a video of you playing someone more you level of skill, you could get better critique.

@xIblisx: That sucks how you died on your first life! I saw you do jab-jab-jab-jab to dtilt. I recommend using using jab-cancel to grab to d-throw. It's a lot safer especially on a grounded Jigglypuff who doesn't have any really fast attacks with her feet planted. It will net the same amount of damage and allows you to easily follow up for even more damage.

 

[MetalMusicMan]

Hey guys, any tips and advice is appreciated, thanks very much!

Ice Climbers: I was hoping someone out there might have more experience than me in trying to fight this matchup. I would like to get better at it even though it is usually labeled as "impossible". I know it's terrible but I think it's possible to beat a similar or under-skilled IC player if you know the matchup well enough, and hopefully that will help me against CP'ing. Against good IC players I will probably still go MK.

MetalMusicMan vs Future (Falco vs Ice Climbers):
2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgtkuo0s6FE
3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puo4j5-uZ-U
4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxkj3WD9A2c




Also if anyone cares to give me Diddy advice:

MetalMusicMan vs Future (Falco vs Diddy):
2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A3zx9_4w_E