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I agree.I think we need to go over the Wario matchup again with Yoshi. I play Wario very gay now and it changes things. Enough to where Wario could have the advantage.
Socks is right. You have to be blind not to see that.Also, yoshis jab is definately something to write home about. Its probably one of the top 5 jabs in the game, and it leads to stuff.
Dude seriously Yoshi's Jab is so god **** annoying lol. That is easily a fantastic jab.I agree.
Also, yoshis jab is definately something to write home about. Its probably one of the top 5 jabs in the game, and it leads to stuff.
I hope you don't plan on ignoring my input on the Jigglypuff match.Eh, I been away. I need to catch up now...
I hope you don't ignore scatz's imput on the jigglypuff matchup (he thinks its 60:40 go to the jiggs boards to see why if u care)... 60:40 yoshi advantage that is ;oI hope you don't plan on ignoring my input on the Jigglypuff match.
For the 134,294,876th time, I've been paying attention to EVERYTHING being said about the match-up. NOT ONE SINGLE WORD OF ANYTHING I'D BEEN SAYING HAS BEEN REFUTED OR EVEN REASONABLY ARGUED AGAINST THERE. They spent significantly more time bullying and making irrelevant attacks than saying anything match-up related.I hope you don't ignore scatz's imput on the jigglypuff matchup (he thinks its 60:40 go to the jiggs boards to see why if u care)... 60:40 yoshi advantage that is ;o
True her Fsmash and Usmash are annoying when I try to approach.Someone is understimating Zelda or I don't know Yoshi
Who has the superior range? AND that is exploitable of course, it won't affect too much if it's slow
Being in the air is dangerous for Yoshi and Zelda but who gets it worse?
Zelda can outcamp Yoshi, I think that's clear now
How often will Yoshi pivot grab? It'll start getting obvious, and if not then it will be used sparingly
Who has the better ground game?
I don't this is 50:50 nor 55:45, let's get in depth, if you wanna move on quickly it means you don't want to push it farther?
The only thing that pops in my head is that Zelda kills freakishly low percents.I don't know what to say...
So what every I said before I request you take down. It is inaccurate and only based for online. Use this summery instead.I know I'm buttin in but everything I said about the Link matchup is completely untrue and was based from online experience. I went to a tourney the other day and had the opportunity to play a few Yoshi mains and the match ups were COMPLETELY different offline.
So whatever summery I gave for Link earlier is completely trash. Like 90% of that stuff doesn't apply to offline. (I'll write another summery for you guys soon)
What, the fact that this is 3 months old doesn't make it new. To Orion's trollingSeriously we need to change the title.
look at the jiggs matchup boards he posted there. turns the jiggs were right about rising pound although i will admit its not a gamebreaking move in this matchup. and no i dont think the matchup is even id say 60:40 yoshi but 70:30 yoshi like u said is too extreme her moves tend to have more priority and hes not that tough to kill considering any good jiggs would never stale out her fair. i say 60:40 yoshi simply on the fact that he just has an easier time killing jiggs than her... this does not mean its a pain-in-the-*** matchup like ur assuming it isFor the 134,294,876th time, I've been paying attention to EVERYTHING being said about the match-up. NOT ONE SINGLE WORD OF ANYTHING I'D BEEN SAYING HAS BEEN REFUTED OR EVEN REASONABLY ARGUED AGAINST THERE. They spent significantly more time bullying and making irrelevant attacks than saying anything match-up related.
And although I could be mistaken, I don't recall Scatz or Mmac saying anything about the match-up numbers.
Bottom line: if you think the match is 6:4 (or less) SAY why you think so. I went into EXTREME detail on each and every potential situation that could be encountered in this match-up, meticulously explaining potential outcomes of those scenarios as well as the potential ramifications of each potential outcome result in the long-term. The way that place talks, you'd think I was saying "OMG UPSMASH BEETZ ALL LOLOLOLO!!!!1"
You think she can do something to make the match more even? For the 134,294,877th time, I am all ears.
Yeah, they both rack up damage pretty well but Jigglypuff can't gimp Yoshi well and rollout sucks period so she requires fair or dash attack or rest to kill.look at the jiggs matchup boards he posted there. turns the jiggs were right about rising pound although i will admit its not a gamebreaking move in this matchup. and no i dont think the matchup is even id say 60:40 yoshi but 70:30 yoshi like u said is too extreme her moves tend to have more priority and hes not that tough to kill considering any good jiggs would never stale out her fair. i say 60:40 yoshi simply on the fact that he just has an easier time killing jiggs than her... this does not mean its a pain-in-the-*** matchup like ur assuming it is
Its fair love, don't compromisefair works really good at killing yoshies. Ive killed/been killed with it so many times *cries inside from the scar of fair*
Yeah but that doesn't fit.....wouldn't it be fair love between jigglypuff's feet and yoshi's face?
Mathematically, Orion is an idiot. Thats why no one looks at Orion's post.Has anyone looked at 0rion's post? Mathematically, Yoshi has a 65:35, maybe even 70:30 advantage.
Orion's trolling
No matter how many times I see you post, the irony never ceases to amaze me.Orion is an idiot.
Mmac actually had a huge c/p regarding this move earlier on in this thread. I didn't talk about it because I didn't think the issue required further discussion.look at the jiggs matchup boards he posted there. turns the jiggs were right about rising pound
Which in turn limits her options in approaching. You see where I'm going with this?her moves tend to have more priority and hes not that tough to kill considering any good jiggs would never stale out her fair.
I'm not assuming anything. Adding in yet another little hint of irony, you're assuming that what I'm saying is assumption.i say 60:40 yoshi simply on the fact that he just has an easier time killing jiggs than her... this does not mean its a pain-in-the-*** matchup like ur assuming it is
Jiggs is much better than 3rd or 2nd worst, and imo better than yoshi.Next you're going to say that Jigglypuff has great matchups, and isn't the 3rd or 2nd worst friggin character in the game.
Anyway, can we discuss Meta Knight or something?