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SMASHPOCALYPSE:: SPOC IX in February? Link to SPOC VIII results in OP

Scar

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Full Results

TEAMS RESULTS:
1: The Arabian Knight and the Stage Hazard that Knees You (Scar + Hax) ($310.00)
2: G$ + Alukard ($100.00)
3: JMan + Tag ($50.00)
4: Eggm + Swift
5: CyberCocks and the Inverse Overbite (Tope + Cyrain)
5: Frodo and Neo's Excellent Adventure (Cactuar + DoH)
7: Backdoor Sluts 9 (Tec0 + VaNz)
7: HBK + Hazzard
9: Velocity + Tipman
9: Mike $ + Spawn
9: IT'S PIKACHU!!!!!!!! (Mogwai + DJN)
9: Group Sharks (Honey Badger + Animal)
13: Chris Benoit's Son Didn't Tap Out (Prog + CanISmash)
13: Anon + Sheik (Anon + Sheik)
13: Geno Whirl (Lake + Vudujin)
13: Beef Jerkey (Dot + Will)
17: Brooklynites (Kashan + Grey Fox)
17: Carlos + Kurt
17: Part + Parcel 2.0 (Chibo + Mitri)
17: Ben + Crismas
17: CopyCat + Sneak
17: Ultimascout + Wes
17: Scar's a Little Peesha **** ****** that ****in Blows, I ****in Hate that Kid. Cause he Blows. (Gotm + Paul)

SINGLES RESULTS:
1: jman
2: Cactuar
3: tope
4: hbk
5: swiftbass
5: tec0
7: cyrain
7: Scar
9: D'oH
9: vanz
9: tag
9: Hax$$
13: lake
13: tipman
13: Eggm
13: hazzard
17: prog
17: vudujin
17: DJN
17: alukard
17: mogwai
17: d20
17: velocity
17: g$
25: animal
25: gotm
25: sneak
25: honey badger
25: taki
25: ben
25: ultimascout
25: Dot Eater
33: milos
33: kaos
33: XYT
33: mik
33: kasumi
33: cabc
33: aztek king
33: dave
33: nelo
33: copycat
33: jfox
33: Anon
33: grey fox
33: yien
33: clownyoter
48: crismas
48: matt
48: talwind
48: raz
48: tec7
48: kashan
48: project k
48: kurt
48: carlos
48: true-skillz
48: darksayiiiide
48: eggn
48: chibo
48: rin
48: swordz
 

Mogwai

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mogwai got one at spoc one time. And still hasn't paid it/doesnt have plans to do so. The ticket he got ended up in my bag or something(saw it when I got back haha). I went and sat in Eggm's car while he rounded up his stuff inside. Perhaps you should try it next time as well.
not true, there was some mail about it, my parents paid it and then I had to pay them back.

Philly parking police piss me the **** off.

ugh, I'm so close to quitting this game...
 

GOTM

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i had a lot of fun.

mitri, paul, mark, rep tos all day son, good times. next time make sael come.

the broskies, wes, scar....you guys are always awesome. we didnt have ryan or mrs. ryan but its fine.

cactuar is the best smash player in the world.

lake that was one of the closest sets i ever played. good ****.

you motorboatin' son of a *****
 

prog

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so, i wake up at 1:10, hungry

i decide to go mcdonalds

get in the car, and apparently, i had 3 miles of gas left when i got home. beast.

copying videos onto my external, then copying them onto my desktop, will be uploading what i have soonish.

and mog, if you quit, i will drive to stamford and throw feces at your apartment.
 

SwiftBass

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get at Lake, vudujin and D20 holdin low tiers down in bracket

not true, there was some mail about it, my parents paid it and then I had to pay them back.

Philly parking police piss me the **** off.

ugh, I'm so close to quitting this game...
get ***** me for having mah info wrong

by quitting you mean not playing and TO'ing?
 

prog

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prog video updates:

to everyone that had stuff recorded on my laptop, you might be out of luck.

all i have is hax/velocity, hax/cyrain, and scar/tec0.
 

ranmaru

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I was Carlos. I'mma try going to Drexel to play with some of you guys again, when I have a few spare dollars, for septa lol.

This was fun, want to go to Rom2 as well.

Philly Parking? I used septa. and it was rainy as hell ALL day. from 7:30 AM to 9:00 pm. lol
 

Scar

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yeah we got kicked out at 10, we usually have the venue until midnight or 1am

in addition, GOTM chibo and pakman did NOT contribute to our supply of TVs for various reasons, so we definitely had a shortage on that front, plus the scarmada suffered losses due to unknown reasons (one TV was just not working at all) and eggm brought 2 instead of his usual 3, which further worked to the detriment of the tournament

all of that aside the turnout was PHENOMENAL, everyone played their matches when they were asked to (for the most part..) and reporting went very smoothly, and we did end up finishing a 20+ / 60+ entrant tournament in about 8 hours total, which IMO is very successful

many many many thanks to Mogwai for running the entirety of pools and a large part of singles bracket, and to Rush for booking the venue and basically running teams (allowing hax and I to run train on *****es)
 

JFox

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sure it was very well run, but there was hardly time for any friendlies once the tourney started.

The way it used to be was tourneys would always start pretty early. Teams would get started by 11am often times, and the whole day was used for the tourney, allowing time for friendlies instead of just enough time to finish a tourney. There was def a shortage of tvs. Being kicked out early kinda sucked, but not much u can do there.

What most importantly was missing was the finals. Winners and GF werent even played out. Its like all people go to these for nowadays is to collect a pay check. This game isnt supposed to be about money when its a **** local tourney.

I'm just sayin people have lost their tournament spirit.
 

JFox

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oh def. i dont mean to sound negative, i just know that most people hold SPOC at a high level because it always delivers. If you want to keep a great reputation, than constructive criticism from those who compete is probably the best way to keep a tourney run as well as possible. Now if Scar isn't interested on keeping up the rep of this tourney, he can feel free to dismiss the criticism I've given.

I know most people go by the "If ya don't have somethin nice to say, than don't say anything" rule, but I like to think of myself as kind of a ****...so i'm just gonna do things my way.

;)
 

Mogwai

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eh, I've gotten over splitting in grand finals between people who play all the time, but what happened at this was straight up bracket rigging. refusing to play winner's finals until you know who's coming out of losers is just inexcusably lame and Scar or I should've made JMan and Cactuar at least decide who was forfeiting winner's finals hours before it happened.

And now that I'm thinking about it, this was a 60+ man tourney, which in this day and age is a fairly big deal. It's kinda a slap in the face to the people who traveled 4+ hours to play to win to just take your money and leave. Maybe you don't owe them anything, but ultimately, tournaments like this being epic is the only thing that'll keep them happening, so at least put on a show even if you're just gonna divvy up the cash afterward.

gah, I'm not gonna think about this anymore, that whole situation pissed me the **** off and it's not worth my time and energy to get pissed about it again.
 

CT Chia

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wait, what happened?

tuar and jman decided to wait to see who should go to losers and fight who made it there, in this case tope made it, so whoever would be able to fight tope easier purposely went to losers?
 

JFox

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honestly, no.

Jman wasn't feelin it, so cactuar was gonna go into losers. Tope had already been knocked out of winners by cactuar, so he asked jman if they could play it out since he'd probably be bitter going home not knowing whether or not he deserved second place. Jman won and then he and cactus split.

So really, nothing came of them waiting it out. Both Cactuar and Jman beat tope, who was the only one either of them would have to beat to get into GF.
 

Cactuar

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Mog, not that it's any of your business what we do, but the agreement was that if HBK made it into loser finals, I would fight him, and if Tope made it, Jman would play. We did that because I had already played Tope. It wasn't a matter of who would be able to win easier, but to provide some variety in who played who. There wouldn't have been time to play out a grand finals either way, as Tope vs HBK didn't end until 10 minutes before we were supposed to stop.
 

Scar

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idk i personally think it's everyone's business considering they've all invested $10 of their money into the outcome of the tournament
 

Mogwai

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regardless of your intentions, choosing who forfiets to who based on who ends up in Loser's Finals of a regional tournament is not acceptable in my book.

and frankly, it's everyone who entered's business, they have a right to know what happened in the tourney.
 

Cactuar

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False. You are investing 10 dollars for an opportunity to compete. Unless you are in the finals, it really is none of your business what decisions are made. There is nothing you can do to alter the decisions of those players. This has been something under discussion for a long time, and when it comes down to it, it is the decision of the players in that position to do what they want.

How about we discuss Scar's modifying the ruleset to benefit himself during Winner's Finals in teams.

Honestly, who really wants to see me and Jman play each other, knowing full well that we will just walk towards each other and ftilt.

The only one who has a right to complain imo is Tope, and if he really had a problem with it, he knows he can talk to Jman or myself about it.


The best thing you can do in this situation is to put a requirement in the rules, such as:

"Winner's Finals must be played out prior to Loser Semi's beginning."
 

Scar

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jman knew all he had to do was definitively say no, he either
1) just figured it was actually fair bc they picked FD so fast and knew it was against the rules to do so
or
2) felt that if he didn't let me do what i wanted that i was going to take him outside and beat him up

i'm not sure if there's an option number 3 there but in the end he agreed to play r5 out on dreamland so clearly it wasn't that big of a deal to him

and i'm sure whatever you're trying to say is completely agreeable, but the phrase "it's none of your business" isn't really the way to make people see things your way, just a suggestion

IMO if it's anyone's business what you're doing it's mine as TO and mogwai's as TO because it is well within my authority at my own tournament to double-DQ you and pay out 3rd as if it were first if a match is not played out when it's called for no good/apparent reason, which i think would prompt some people to not come to the tourney but also increase the integrity of the system

@white mike yes they did but bracket-rigging (which is what it looked like even if it was not, considering winners finals was supposed to be played at MOST halfway through losers, and not closer to losers finals) is against the rules whether expressed or not

@jfox a few posts back i agree that SPOC should continue to be an awesome tourney and i appreciate the criticism, i was citing reasons for why i think it wasn't as good an experience as it has been in the past but i still think it was an above-average tourney, mostly because of how many people came out and from how far they came

edit: i'm just making observations, i'm not trying to fight or call anyone out on anything, i think that everything ran fine and i was very happy with the tournament, for appearance's sake i think it would have been a far better situation for the plan to have been openly discussed with everyone (at least Tope), and i in no way think that it's not the TO's business why a match that was called is not being played

splitting in grand finals is not what's being discussed it's postponing a called match for questionable motives that mogwai had a problem with

so anyways again i'm not trying to fight but clearly there are other forces at work here
 

Cactuar

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DQing the top players for earning the right to decide to do what they want is a good way to get discredited as a TO. :thumbs up:

And I don't care what the situation is, if you ever joke about that second option around me, I'll take you outside and we'll have a word.


As I've said, if you don't want us to wait, just put that clause in your rules. I have no problem with that at all.

We play to the extent of the rules supporting the tournament. If you really wanted us to play or make the decision earlier than we did, you should have been more firm about it.
 

nyc_tag$

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"they picked FD so fast and knew it was against the rules to do so"
:laugh:

You have got to be ****ing kidding me. We asked you guys and you agreed to it. If you realized your mistake in judgment right after that, you could have still quit out at the beginning of the match.

Regardless, right after that we disagreed to going back to DL, which we could do because that's part of the rules, and only ended up going back there because you threw a little ***** fit.

What's done is done, but I don't want to see that kind of **** happening anymore.

EDIT: That second option isn't ****ing funny. You shouldn't be making jokes like that about a minor who is half your size.
 

pockyD

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well it's a fairly common/understood rule that you play your match if able when the T.O. tells you to

that's most of what the T.O. is there for

edit: in fact, under the posted rules, I don't know why it wouldn't be subject to the Mages DQ rule (which is still a stupid rule IMO)
 

White_Mike

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jman knew all he had to do was definitively say no, he either
1) just figured it was actually fair bc they picked FD so fast and knew it was against the rules to do so
or
2) felt that if he didn't let me do what i wanted that i was going to take him outside and beat him up

i'm not sure if there's an option number 3 there but in the end he agreed to play r5 out on dreamland so clearly it wasn't that big of a deal to him
Um, no offense but you guys could have reset right after he picked FD again and said no. If they say no to you picking DL twice after you guys were push overs and didn't stop them...that's your fault.

And if what I heard was true and you complained after them saying no and threw a fit or abused your TO powers...that's wack.

IDK though cuz I wasn't there.
 
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