Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[WolfCypher]

So... just randomly curious.
What are everyone's overall thoughts on Echo fighters?

I personally really like them, as they do not take up too much development time, but they still make fans happy. Never thought I'd see the day that Daisy and Chrom would get in Smash, but it arrived.

Brawl did clones of any kind, under any definition, the best. I'm at a point where I'd much rather have Dark Samus and Chrom and Richter as future DLC with more uniqueness, then to have them be echo characters on day one on the base roster.

 

[Pyra]

I think you guys are setting yourself up for disappointment.

Oh man where have I heard that before

 

[Deleted member]

Would you rather have 1 more unique instead of 6 Echo fighters, Therfore making the rooster smaller? I don't even think there would be enough development time to focus on one newcomer, compared to 6 Echoes

I mean, if 6 Melee clones =/= 1 unique, I don't think 6 echoes = 1 unique.

 

[Deleted member]

They're lazy wastes of character potential meant to satisfy people with low standards and only want their characters technically in than be meaningful and unique additions to the roster.

I would rather they didn't get in now if they could be added again later as at least semi-unique.

Even Dragonball FighterZ with its 4 Gokus play differently.

Look, I get clones have the same moveset, but just enjoy the game. There are still a ton of different characters to have fun in a semi fighting party game.

Oh, I'll enjoy it.
I'll just enjoy it... with a smidgen of disappointment.

You do not have to be edgy over a few clones, just enjoy the darn game.

Pretty much the same as when they were in Smash 4, Brawl, Melee (especially Melee), and 64 before they lacked the special distinction.

I don't find super derivative characters particularly interesting, and by their nature those, typically, are the kind destined to be clones. Plus, the bar for becoming a clone is lower than a standard character. If they were truly important, they'd eventually get in as original. But hey, more characters.

"Shiny Happy Person"
I have found my long lost friend.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

This info drought is making me lose consciousness...
So uh, which Smash characters do you think are in Smash?

 

[Cosmic77]

I used to be opposed to echoes because I thought they were lazy, but then when we learned that echoes can have their own unique moves and is pretty much the only way Shadow could get in the game, I became much more ok with them.

I'd rather have an expanded roster with more characters and some of them being echoes than fewer characters and no echoes. Obviously we'd all prefer more unique fighters than echoes but time and resources are finite so their existence is an acceptable compromise to me.

Personally, I'd rather wait until the next Smash game instead of rushing Sakurai to put in a character as an easy Echo, thus permanently ruining any chance of the character getting his/her own identity and unique moveset.

I mean, even with the sword, Ganon is still a semi-clone. I'd hate to see Dixie get stuck with a nearly identical variation of Diddy's Rocketbarrel Jetpack and Peanut Popgun.

 

[N3ON]

This info drought is making me lose consciousness...
So uh, which Smash characters do you think are in Smash?

Less than a month since the last reveal does not a drought make.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Welp gg, no announcement this week

*facepalm*

It’s approximately 10 am our time is when something could get announced besides neither the smash direct nor general direct were announced on the official site.

Besides 10 days after the video list update is when the trailer gets revealed so Thursday or friday

 

[CommanderZaktan]

Oh, a character blog on Thusday. And it's Dr Mario.

 

[TheCJBrine]

*facepalm*

It’s approximately 10 am our time is when something could get announced besides neither the smash direct nor general direct were announced on the official site.

Besides 10 days after the video list update is when the trailer gets revealed so Thursday or friday

10 days would be Wednesday, but I can see it being anytime this week tbh.

 

[Noipoi]

Oh, a character blog on Thursday. And it's Dr Mario.

It's Monday.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Blog post is Dr Mario.

>no memories
Well, that's just insulting, you'd think his game would merit being mentioned.

 

[Guynamednelson]

>no memories
Well, that's just insulting, you'd think his game would merit having that.

Randomly giving the rest of the world a memory, then not even giving Japan a memory.
Please don't come up with a theory about this.

 

[ZenythSmash]

Ya'll need a hobby.

There's this thing called Video Games, you may like them.

video games????????????

 

[PeridotGX]

This info drought is making me lose consciousness...
So uh, which Smash characters do you think are in Smash?

Bandana Dee

 

[Questionmark222]

Oh are we rating pokemon games? Okay heres my thoughts

B2W2 > HGSS > ORAS > BW > SM > RBY > XY > RSE > DP > FRLG

never played platinum or usum. its also been so long since I played second gen my takes on it wouldnt really be worth anything.

Out of all those I played, which includes each one from Platinum up to Ultra Moon:

BW2>P>BW>HGSS>ORAS>SM>USUM>XY

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Randomly giving the rest of the world a memory, then not even giving Japan a memory.
Please don't come up with a theory about this.

I'm not, I'm just pointing out the incompetence and inconsistence of the site's staff.

 

[Luigi The President]

The Smash Ultim(Pokemon)ate Discussion Thread

 

[TheCJBrine]

We get a memory for Fox, then when Wii Fit Trainer comes, we're back to not getting memories.

 

[N3ON]

We get a memory for Fox, then when Wii Fit Trainer comes, we're back to not getting memories.

You can have my memories of playing Wii Fit if you want, they were mostly unremarkable.

 

[Jakenimbus]

Would you rather have 1 more unique instead of 6 Echo fighters, Therfore making the rooster smaller? I don't even think there would be enough development time to focus on one newcomer, compared to 6 Echoes

Unpopular opinion but yeah I would rather have the 6 echos. I would love to see Shadow, or Black Knight, or Medusa, or Ken, or even a Dixie Kong echo make the game over a new character like Bandanna Waddle Dee.

 

[Deleted member]

We get a memory for Fox, then when Wii Fit Trainer comes, we're back to not getting memories.

Honestly, had they not translated Fox's memory, I would've thought they were a Japan-only thing. Good work, Intern-kun. By translating that one post, you made the blog staff look even more incompetent.

 

[WolfCypher]

The Smash Ultim(Pokemon)ate Discussion Thread

Okay, Imma say this again. Proud:

The Smash discussions have been derailed by Pokemon.

If you gotta go off-topic, at least its an equally great topic.

I mean, this DID come about from "Incineroar in Smash" talk, so...

 

[Jdaster64]

Since I see it brought up from time to time, I don't know what I'd feel about Alola getting a Pokémon Trainer-sort of deal but not Kalos (not that I think either has any chance of happening). I certainly don't like the idea of three more final starter forms before any other representation in any case.

Also, since everyone's weighing in on Pokémon generations, of the ones I've played:
XY > BW1 ~ BW2 > HGSS ~ FRLG > DP > ORAS ~ SM ... and I stopped like 2/3 of the way into Melemele into USUM and couldn't be bothered to continue.
(Haven't played the original versions of RBY/GSC or the third versions of RS/DP)

Also, I've always liked clones, often more than their non-clone variants. (But please make Doc not objectively horrible this time, Sakurai)

 

[Deleted member]

Unpopular opinion but yeah I would rather have the 6 echos. I would love to see Shadow, or Black Knight, or Medusa, or Ken, or even a Dixie Kong echo make the game over a new character like Bandanna Waddle Dee.

I mean, you're using the absolute worst example of a new character there

 

[RandomAce]

So we got an update for Dr. Mario.

He has more attack and launch power than Mario, but his jump and recovery is not as good. Pro tip: You can repeatedly press the B button when using his down special, Dr. Tornado, to float a bit!

It’s interesting how we have two fighters back to back. We may get a 4 fighter blogs this week, which may help the “blog theory” so far. Aside from that, we may be going through blog posts faster now.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I'm not, I'm just pointing out the incompetence and inconsistence of the site's staff.

Well, you're not wrong. This is the same staff that called Shiek a "He"

video games?

what's that?

Is this Loss? /s

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

Theres the Flashback theory.

Which says that the reason the starfox memory was translated was because it meant...

the chair theory would be proven true soon.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

We get a memory for Fox, then when Wii Fit Trainer comes, we're back to not getting memories.

Honestly, had they not translated Fox's memory, I would've thought they were a Japan-only thing. Good work, Intern-kun. By translating that one post, you made the blog staff look even more incompetent.

Then Dr. Mario gets bupkis. Make up your minds, you site morons, even trained monkeys would do a better job.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Unpopular opinion but yeah I would rather have the 6 echos. I would love to see Shadow, or Black Knight, or Medusa, or Ken, or even a Dixie Kong echo make the game over a new character like Bandanna Waddle Dee.

Fighter 06e: Bandana Waddle Dee

 

[StarLight42]

So we got an update for Dr. Mario.

He has more attack and launch power than Mario, but his jump and recovery is not as good. Pro tip: You can repeatedly press the B button when using his down special, Dr. Tornado, to float a bit!

It’s interesting how we have two fighters back to back. We may get a 4 fighter blogs this week, which can recoup the 2 fighter posts from the last couple of weeks.

YES! It's ma main!
>but his jump and recovery is not as good

Aww what? Are you telling me he's gonna have his Smash 4 jump height again? Blehhh. In his fighter video he had the same jump height as Mario, looks like they're nerfing it again. :/

I just hope he doesn't completely suck like he did in Smash 4. Like, they did such a horrible job of balancing him in comparison to Mario in that game.

 

[WolfCypher]

So, here are the characters I plan on picking up, and I'm planning on:

Competitive (no items, For Glory)


Bordering seriously on Competitive


Casual (items, any stage, For Fun)


Undecided (But I AM playing)


Playing the Best Buy demo really helped me decide where to go with Pit and Pokemon Trainer.

 

[N3ON]

Why do you guys care so much about the memories, you already know the games in question...

 

[Deleted member]

Fighter 06e: Bandana Waddle Dee

Better than him being unique. This way, I could stack him with Kirby and pretend he doesn't exist

 

[Jetsurge]

Because I'm bored.

Super Smash Bros. (1999; Nintendo 64):
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Dark Pit and Lucina

 

[RandomAce]

Better than him being unique. This way, I could stack him with Kirby and pretend he doesn't exist

Chandeelure left the chat.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Dark Pit and Lucina

Well poop I forgot about them...-_-

What exact order were they revealed?

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

I hope back alley Dr. Mario makes a return though. Best color swap.

 

[AugustusB]

Fighter 06e: Bandana Waddle Dee

Nah man. Bandana Waddle Dee is actually number 27e.

 

[Deleted member]

Well poop I forgot about them...-_-

What exact order were they revealed?

Lucina was (technically) revealed before Robin, Dark Pit was revealed post-launch before Bowser Jr.