Eddie G
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^ Eat yo veggies MK, you too short!
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They don't look silly. The argument might be motivated by self-interest but that doesn't really change its validity.Why, again, is it that only MK mains defend planking? I wish they could see how silly they all look.
Regardless, it's the person with lower percent's responsibility of chasing the other down, the blame is on them if it times out, which is quite impossible to beat, and thus it's a broken tactic that should be banned.Yeah, if they didn't do that they'd get ***** as they tried to hit them, and the timer wouldn't run out because they'd die a lot quicker.
People who think projectiles can get around planking need to play against someone who's good at it. imo one of the ONLY characters that can deal with planking is MK. Projectiles don't work well, they're too easy to avoid.in the case of planking, there are several characters that have a means of dealing with it, (assuming we consider planking based upon ledge stalling and not simply stalling).
the opponent can attempt to hog the ledge as much as they want, but many characters can simply impede the planking and ensure the opponent cannot sustain it indefinitely.
I don't know about that. I'm probably the campiest MK main out there, if not then very close, and I'm strongly lobbying for planking to be banned... don't look at how I voted XD I changed my mind since then.Why, again, is it that only MK mains defend planking? I wish they could see how silly they all look.
Not suggesting that it's broken, we don't know this yet.A ledge-grab limit is an awful way to solve the situation.
If planking is so broken that people feel the need to limit the times you grab an edge to 70, then clearly the best solution is to only grab it 69 times. There's nothing stopping someone from doing that.
While I see your point, wouldn't that just be the would-be planker's fault for being stupid and using all his edge-grabs on something he/she knows in advance can't work what would be, in that case, the established ruleset?However, with an edge grab limit, if you try to turn a slight lead into a massive lead by planking here's what happens.
Your opponent planks.
You wait for about a minute.
Your opponent runs out of edgegrabs.
Match resumes regularly with a massive disadvantage towards your opponent because he can't grab the ledge again.
Exactly, that's the point.While I see your point, wouldn't that just be the would-be planker's fault for being stupid and using all his edge-grabs on something he/she knows in advance can't work what would be, in that case, the established ruleset?
I mean, I really see that disadvantage as being self-inflicted...
...its not. click on the no and you get to see who supported the noWhy, again, is it that only MK mains defend planking? I wish they could see how silly they all look.
It's a trap!...its not. click on the no and you get to see who supported the no
That would depend on the limit, wouldn't it? By adjusting the limit, we can change how much it prevents it.Exactly, that's the point.
The edge-grab rule would gut planking, it's basically an out-right ban.
Get your head out of your ***.Why, again, is it that only MK mains defend planking? I wish they could see how silly they all look.
Who the **** would plank if they are losing? >.>;It could also be the opposite
Planking could be used to stall, especially on big stages, but if the opponent knows that the planker would just lose, he would just sit back and relax and wait to win...
Therefore the limit could change for the allotted time limit/stock or even individual stage.
I tried planking once, and it just didn't seem fun...
a good point.I voted "don't ban" because I think banning things that aren't winning tournaments is for sissies. If it's so good, why is no one winning tournaments because of it?
don't say such things or it may tempt me to prove ya wrong in chicago XDI think it's too early to decide this. No one actively planks these days. I've seen Scotu vs Epic, who both are from my state. Scotu was doing it to everyone, and got nearly last.
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Yeah. Besides, a skilled player can stop someone who keeps ledge camping. Especially if there using zss. And putting in a time limit is just gonna make things way to complicated. People might accidently go like 1 or 2 seconds over the time. This really doesn't need to be banned, it's just another mind game trick.Lol at the thought of Ice Climbers Planking.
I agree with lain though. Planking isn't that common. I definately don't see people winning just because they are ledge camping.
The people that are for banning planking don't understand what they're banning.Most of the people who don't want the ledgegrab limit rule dont really understand what it is.
You do realize why having Judges at a Smash tournament is hard, right?If Olympic wrestling can handle having a judge decide, why can't Smash?
I know perfectly well what I want banned. I don't think you know how stupid broken it is.The people that are for banning planking don't understand what they're banning.
How very narrow-minded... >.>Why would you want it banned? If you can't beat it, find a way. It's just another strategy, and if your too stupid to use it, that's your fault.
So you just called everyone who doesn't use Metaknight an idiot?Why would you want it banned? If you can't beat it, find a way. It's just another strategy, and if your too stupid to use it, that's your fault.
First place that I stopped reading.People who think projectiles can get around planking need to play against someone who's good at it.
A sprin drops more slowly than bombs and grenades and C4. So the margin of error is much larger for me than for other characters. Let alone.imo one of the ONLY characters that can deal with planking is MK. Projectiles don't work well, they're too easy to avoid.
So Snake cannot drop C4 while Mk is planking and then use his nikita i conjunction? Or place the nikita in the path of his SL?Ask SamuraiPanda how hard it is to hit a planker with snake. Close to the only thing he can do is nakita and then to avoid it, the MK just gets on stage til the nakita is gone, then gets back onto the ledge. If the snake is too close when doing it, he'll get hit, then the MK will run away.
You just swayed my opinion.I keep changing my mind from limit to too early.
But for now, I think it's too early to vote on it. It's a pretty new tactic, we have to wait to see how it plays out. Will a lot of people just do it to win? Will a lot of people not do it because they don't want to be brandished with negative looks? As of now, no one's winning with planking, so there's no dire threat to really ban.
However, if it does get to be a severe problem, the edge-grab rule would work best. Having a number of like 50 edge-grabs that you can't exceed if the timer runs out is good, because people can still plank to force an approach, but not stall the time. And really, the reason planking is being considered banned is because of the latter reason.
Too early.
Sorry if i came off the wrong way. What I should have said is it's just another way of playing that works well for some characters and not so well for others. And Meta Knight isn't the only character that can use it well. For instance, I play Sheik and I use it fairly often when I'm on the edge, but I don't continuously stall with it, I just use it where and when necessary. Again, sorry if I came off the wrong way.So you just called everyone who doesn't use Metaknight an idiot?
jumping away from the stage when it's falling down works pretty well, lolA sprin drops more slowly than bombs and grenades and C4. So the margin of error is much larger for me than for other characters. Let alone.
Yes it is difficult to deal with planking for all characters, some can deal with it more effectively than others.
to be able to drop it you need to be in a dangerous position, and you see it coming for an hour. jump away and jump toward, problem fixed.Link can toss up a bomb, draw another bomb and toss it down and limit MK's options.
So can Tl.
yes it is difficult to deal with it, but there are many things in the game that are hard to deal with.
can't get in close with a c4 without danger, and yeah, it's still easy to dodge. seriously, ask SamuraiPanda. snake can't do much in this situation.So Snake cannot drop C4 while Mk is planking and then use his nikita i conjunction? Or place the nikita in the path of his SL?
Or how about using a combination of grenades with C4?
But that's the thing: people aren't thinking of banning Planking for the forcing-an-approach-strategy side, they're thinking of banning Planking because of the stalling-for-the-entire match side. Stalling is already banned.Sorry if i came off the wrong way. What I should have said is it's just another way of playing that works well for some characters and not so well for others. And Meta Knight isn't the only character that can use it well. For instance, I play Sheik and I use it fairly often when I'm on the edge, but I don't continuously stall with it, I just use it where and when necessary. Again, sorry if I came off the wrong way.
Hey I can do it toojumping away from the stage when it's falling down works pretty well, lol
You dont have to plae yourself i a bad position, because MK's vertical ascension is piss poor.to be able to drop it you need to be in a dangerous position, and you see it coming for an hour. jump away and jump toward, problem fixed.
Sp=/=master of brawlcan't get in close with a c4 without danger, and yeah, it's still easy to dodge. seriously, ask SamuraiPanda. snake can't do much in this situation.
In the same way it's quite possible to survive jumping off a cliff. >_>Regardless, it's the person with lower percent's responsibility of chasing the other down, the blame is on them if it times out, which is quite impossible to beat, and thus it's a broken tactic that should be banned.