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Q&A Sheik Strategy & QnA

Teczer0

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of course not, why would a Fox player ban FD?
I resent that.

According to the left of this post I am a pichu player good sir. I like never go fox in tourney anyway :bee:

Plank - I personally like PS vs floaty characters as sheik I mean. Like vs peach/marth/jiggs etc. Do you auto ban PS no matter who you're fighting or you mean vs spacies?
 

Plairnkk

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i can, its just a stupid level as a whole.

tec, mainly i ban it vs spacies but usually everyone, unless its stage striking
 

Teczer0

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i can, its just a stupid level as a whole.

tec, mainly i ban it vs spacies but usually everyone, unless its stage striking
I know what you're getting at actually. Its the same with me and Yoshi's Story I think.

When we are given an option to ban any of the stages because we feel it doesn't make a difference you tend to ban PS cuz you don't like it? =)

Same with me and YS.
 

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I personally like PS vs floaty characters as sheik I mean. Like vs peach/marth/jiggs etc.
i agree


I don't really hate any stages, but Yoshi's Story is by far my personal favorite. Followed closely by Dreamland. But that doesn't affect my counterpick choice much. Usually I do bad on Yoshi's =(
 

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alright sheik mains.
I'm not a sheik main but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdBAX-O6yFw

please tell me what I can be doing better.
-I notice I always walk away from the edge when they are off. This is from bairing CPU foxes who always firefox up at a 45 degree angle. I will work on this.
- I need to vary my approaches. Every single approach is dash attack (unless I'm really close, and that's not really an approach).

So basically my ledge game sucks and I can't tech chase. And I use dair too much. And there are probably a million more things, so please comment. Thanks.
 

tubes

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alright sheik mains.
I'm not a sheik main but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdBAX-O6yFw

please tell me what I can be doing better.
-I notice I always walk away from the edge when they are off. This is from bairing CPU foxes who always firefox up at a 45 degree angle. I will work on this.
- I need to vary my approaches. Every single approach is dash attack (unless I'm really close, and that's not really an approach).

So basically my ledge game sucks and I can't tech chase. And I use dair too much. And there are probably a million more things, so please comment. Thanks.
Don't spotdodge every time I run at you and down smash every time I'm within striking distance. Dude I play Falcon. There's no reason to get scared of Falcon.

Also you pick one direction and tech that same direction every time until you get *****. Then pick a new direction. STOP IT! Why do you think I could make combo videos out of your fox so easily?
 

Incronaut

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is down-throw to tech chase -> death a disrespect in friendlies? (like chain grabbing?)

or am i behind the times?
 

GOD!

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Don't spotdodge every time I run at you and down smash every time I'm within striking distance. Dude I play Falcon. There's no reason to get scared of Falcon.

Also you pick one direction and tech that same direction every time until you get *****. Then pick a new direction. STOP IT! Why do you think I could make combo videos out of your fox so easily?
oh wait... except we split games last time we played..
you can make a falcon combo video out of practically any space animal with falcon.

And I hate falcon. That's why I picked up sheik in the first place.
But i'll take that teching advice. Im coming to waba on the 28th and maybe well play some.
 

tubes

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your sheik beat me once =/= split games. I can smell the salt from here. I guess we only played like 3 games though.

And any character can make a combo video out of Falcon as well.
 

DtJ Jungle

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SHeik Boards...Our mod is an idiot.

12:51:35 AM Jungle Fever: 3.14
12:51:36 AM Jungle Fever: is PIE
12:51:37 AM Jungle Fever: backwards
12:52:07 AM Haley: why is 3.14 pie backwards?
12:52:13 AM Haley: 3.14 = pi
12:52:16 AM Jungle Fever: OMGGG
12:52:17 AM Jungle Fever: YOURE ********
12:52:18 AM Jungle Fever: WRITE
12:52:21 AM Jungle Fever: 3.14
12:52:23 AM Jungle Fever: BACKWARDS
12:52:26 AM Jungle Fever: like a backwards 4
12:52:33 AM Jungle Fever: ten a backwards 1
12:52:36 AM Jungle Fever: then a backwards 3
12:53:22 AM Haley: 41.3?
12:53:22 AM Haley: wait
12:53:22 AM Haley: I'm sooo confused
12:53:22 AM Haley: LMAO
12:53:27 AM Jungle Fever: NO YOU BAKA
12:53:33 AM Jungle Fever: WRITE THE FOUR BACKWARDS
12:53:35 AM Jungle Fever: THEN THE ONE
12:53:37 AM Jungle Fever: THEN THE THREE
12:53:41 AM Jungle Fever: LITERALLY BACKWARDS
12:54:08 AM Haley: OH
12:54:08 AM Haley: roufenoeerht?
12:54:13 AM Haley: wait this is wrong
12:54:14 AM Jungle Fever: NO
12:54:17 AM Jungle Fever: THE NUMBERS
12:54:19 AM Jungle Fever: 4 1 3
12:54:23 AM Jungle Fever: write them so they are facing
12:54:25 AM Jungle Fever: the other way
12:54:27 AM Jungle Fever: OH MY GOD
12:54:31 AM Haley: OH
12:54:33 AM Haley: LMFAO
12:54:35 AM Haley: I GET IT
 

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kk and vanz were getting disrespected on livestream last nite haha

what noobs cant enjoy watching sheik v. ice climbers?
 

KirbyKaze

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kk and vanz were getting disrespected on livestream last nite haha

what noobs cant enjoy watching sheik v. ice climbers?
Heh. Screw livestream noobs. I wanted matchup practice.

^_^

If it bothers them so much they should have gotten their *** to the tournament.

:)
 

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Well said KK.

I also think it's worth mentioning to everyone that I am the ONLY Sheik in history that loses to Captain Falcon (Scar)

But my Sheik vs Fox game is sooooo ON.

:colorful:
 

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plenty of people lose to falcons that are better than them

he just punishes so well that if he reads you well enough, you lose stocks from getting hit once or twice
 

KirbyKaze

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plenty of people lose to falcons that are better than them

he just punishes so well that if he reads you well enough, you lose stocks from getting hit once or twice
Maybe, but you're Sheik.

Think about it.

Sheik.

He can't even U-throw Knee guaranteed if you just DI away from the u-throw and 50/50 jump or no jump. And D-tilt is so ****.
 

pockyD

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yeah but since we're assuming they're better than you, they'll probably read whether you jump or not better than 50/50 :laugh:

also they'll probably just uair and leave you in a bad position

if your own punish game isn't on point, a better falcon will eat you up
 

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I find unless you DI towards him, there's very little Falcon can do to Sheik for combos at low percents to mid percents.

In theory you'd think they'd just Uair and leave you in a bad position but it seems they go for the Knee a lot.

Punishment vs Falcon is really, really easy but yes, I agree, if you can't do things after hitting him and fail every edgeguard imaginable then yes he'll be difficult.
 

KirbyKaze

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You can literally just hog the edge against Falcon if he's recovering low (which he should be a lot, considering Sheik's Fair isn't really conducive to high recoveries and its her primary combo finisher) and then ledgehop Dair (or come up into dash attack or grabs) into ridiculous bullshit and giggle as he flails in horrible agony.

Except Fox imo.
No.

Being Sheik makes many characters simply evaporate in your presence if you know what you're supposed to be doing.
 

elvenarrow3000

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Scumfever, how come your avatar is always a girl?

It's like you're purposefully trying to make people think you're a girl.
 

DtJ Jungle

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oh

i dunno. i dont try to make peopel think im a girl i just like it i guess :/


you could say this about like a good portion of smashboards.

see: Teczero
 

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Maybe, but you're Sheik.

Think about it.

Sheik.

He can't even U-throw Knee guaranteed if you just DI away from the u-throw and 50/50 jump or no jump. And D-tilt is so ****.
Didn't someone have a video in their signature showing this combo Sheik at 155% with the correct DI?
 
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