Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

[P.C. Jona]

so

scar liked my video

doesnt mean niqqers werent gonna hate on it

freakin faqs

anyways

im trying to win money from the mcdonalds monopoly game

im about to win like 2 grand

also short hopping w/ control stick is mad hard to get used to

props

i think fox's do that to double laser

but i was doin it today just by using x

 

[tubes]

ew son

you swear its impossible or something

what are you gonna do up-b out of shield

it wouldnt even do anything because the sweetspot is on top

and your hitting the front of their shield

its not even anything special

yo your mad dumb

theres nothing dk can do except hold his shield up or roll

which will get him grabbed

Shield pressuring is about mixups and figuring out how your opponent reacts to your pressuring. There is no one thing that always works.

Maybe against DK this is not the case though. Lol bad characters.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

SH Oo Shine into double lasers is the easiest way to get htat **** frame perfect

otherwise i think it's easier to just do it with why

 

[`DNS`]

so

scar liked my video

doesnt mean niqqers werent gonna hate on it

freakin faqs

anyways

im trying to win money from the mcdonalds monopoly game

im about to win like 2 grand

also short hopping w/ control stick is mad hard to get used to

props

i think fox's do that to double laser

but i was doin it today just by using x

i SHDL by sliding my thumb from Y to B and then pushing B again

 

[KAOSTAR]

I will never hate on anything that scar likes ever

STFU jona-theres no way ur right lol


*I hate puff*

 

[Leviathan741]

Any tips against a good ganondorf. I know it sounds good, but one of my friends just spams down b attacks. The thing is he'll just sit there until he finds an opportunity to use that god**** overpowered overpriotrzed kick ,,, (lol) Also he uses the fair of ganondorf and shffls him pretty good 2.

 

[LoganW]

Any tips against a good ganondorf. I know it sounds good, but one of my friends just spams down b attacks. The thing is he'll just sit there until he finds an opportunity to use that god**** overpowered overpriotrzed kick ,,, (lol) Also he uses the fair of ganondorf and shffls him pretty good 2.

jump over it and punish

 

[TresChikon]

Falcon Punch beats foot.

 

[Brookman]

Hey Scar, you know about the reverse falcon kick on the edge?

 

[Zephyr]

I've only ever seen reverse falcon kick pulled off once in my life. The guy getting edgeguarded wallteched out of reflex but was so blown away by the fact that it hit that he just fell and died.

Best. Edgeguard. Ever.

 

[BigD!!!]

hey few pages back people were talking about whether jiggs is better than other characters or not

shes a dumb character that is statistically worse than a bunch of characters, but she has automatic kills in the forms of gimps and rests that totally may or may not happen

its really hard to rank her because of this i think, cause if she reads a roll she can get a kill, but if you dont roll she wont. if you guess right often, shes easily the best character in the game, but its hard to put that into a tier list

thats the way i've looked at it for a while

 

[TresChikon]

If you predict and punish correctly a lot, wouldn't that just mean you're just a better player in general?

Also, that would throw off the tier list concept of both players being completely even.

 

[Zephyr]

Jigglypuff is easier to think clearly with than most characters because the button inputs and tech skill required to play her are lower than most other characters, which is why punishing with her is generally more effective when done properly.

 

[Stratford]

The guy getting edgeguarded wallteched out of reflex but was so blown away by the fact that it hit that he just fell and died.

I'm glad he knew his place.

 

[TresChikon]

Hey if Falcon get's D-smashed offstage by Samus and is facing the opposite way, would a rising Falcon Punch help his recovery like in 64 if he was high enough since he can't do Falcon kick.

 

[Milos]

nah, after falcon punch you fall very fast in lag, straight down, because you cant change aerial momentum during post falcon punch lag

 

[iamthemicrowave]

so is there a rising falcon punch in ssbm? my friend who plays ssb keeps telling me you can do it but i dunno wats up

 

[TresChikon]

Yeah you can angle it downwards or upwards like Jiggs, but I wasn't sure if it really helped like it did in 64

Ganon can do it to.

But yeah, I guess there's like super lag after the punch where you can't DI anywhere, so no good.

Thanks Milos.

 

[KAOSTAR]

Wats the reverse falcon kick, Ive never seen that ****?


You can angle the falcon punch up or down. I always angle up if Im going to try to recover. It does help a decent amount.

Also using up or down is not a bad Idea to try and get that hit off if they are just above or below.

 

[GamerGuitarist7]

so is there a rising falcon punch in ssbm? my friend who plays ssb keeps telling me you can do it but i dunno wats up

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i saw the sig and was like "I don't remember posting this"

then i realized that you're just awesome.

 

[TresChikon]

Wats the reverse falcon kick, Ive never seen that ****?


You can angle the falcon punch up or down. I always angle up if Im going to try to recover. It does help a decent amount.

Also using up or down is not a bad Idea to try and get that hit off if they are just above or below.

I think it's pressing down b while on the ledge as suicide/sexy edgeguard, i dunno.

On big 'ol stages like DL if I ever get hit off and face the wrong direction i use it to turn around at least, so i can maybe get off a down +b

 

[GamerGuitarist7]

haha i have a clip of that in kneegalize, it's beautiful.

 

[DippnDots]

Any tips against a good ganondorf. I know it sounds good, but one of my friends just spams down b attacks. The thing is he'll just sit there until he finds an opportunity to use that god**** overpowered overpriotrzed kick ,,, (lol) Also he uses the fair of ganondorf and shffls him pretty good 2.

Ganon's down b should only be hitting you during a tech chase unless you're throwing out aerial attacks way too early. And if he's getting you with shffls it's because he's out spacing you. That move is hardly over powered, I rarely use it more than once a match, if even that, because of how easily punishable it is.

 

[TresChikon]

I always thought that his kick was pretty low priority, it was just fast thats all.

Dang Falcon boards are so active, i wanna main falcon just so i know what im talking about in here.

 

[DippnDots]

I'm not sure on the specifics of its priority because i dont throw it out to clank with things, but the fact that he ducks back a little bit before he shoots forward is wonderful spacing mindgames. Going out of my *** though and using magus420's post on how priority works, higher damage = higher priority, and it does some nice damage.

 

[iamthemicrowave]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i saw the sig and was like "I don't remember posting this"

then i realized that you're just awesome.

haha thanks. smoke weed play falcon e'ry day!

 

[KAOSTAR]

lol, I often stomp ganons wizard boot or whatever its called. I think you can grab, but shield and punish if you cant space a knee or stomp

 

[Zephyr]

Reverse Falcon Kick is positioning yourself right next to the ledge and facing toward the stage, then Falcon Kicking as an edgeguard.

That is all.

 

[Tomacawk]

smoke weed play falcon e'ry day!

wisdom
10philosophies

 

[tubes]

I'm pretty sure Wizzard's foot beats out Falcon kick from personal experience.

I know Raptor boost beats purple boost though. No priority here, Raptor boost just gets the hitbox out first.

 

[Roneblaster]

tomacawk bringing weed and philosophy together in the falcon boards.

too good.

scar youre the **** for making this thread.

 

[Ryzol_]

I'm pretty sure Wizzard's foot beats out Falcon kick from personal experience.

I know Raptor boost beats purple boost though. No priority here, Raptor boost just gets the hitbox out first.

I play a Ganon all the time. Falcon kick ties with Ganondorf's down B. They clank. Maybe if falcon kick is stale Ganon's down B wins, but not otherwise.

Also my friend uses the SVA on Ganon's downB to **** with my spacing. It's sort of like a ghetto spotdodge. Ganon shifts back pretty far when he goes for his kick, but more importantly he ducks down too. I bet it goes under high lasers.

 

[Mogwai]

really? I was like 90% sure that in head to heads:

Ganon down B >>>>>> Falcon down B
Falcon forward B >>>> Ganon forward B

 

[alcoady]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdodUgP0gGE

Yeah Buddy!

 

[xXx-NoobKing-xXx]

Thankyou for the pointers vs sheik guys. You have been very helpful

 

[Mokumo]

what are the best options when you up throw marth after like... 35%?

but when they DI behind you (into you). For me, this is the hardest to follow up. Sometimes i do a reverse uair, or maybe a bair, but i can't seem to get anything started. On the other hand, I think it's easiest to combo uairs when he DI's away from you. There have to be options out of pretty much anything because captain falcons matchup against marth (and pretty much the entire cast) relies on his ability to combo the hell out of you

and end it with a knee

 

[JPOBS]

I'm not sure on the specifics of its priority because i dont throw it out to clank with things, but the fact that he ducks back a little bit before he shoots forward is wonderful spacing mindgames. Going out of my *** though and using magus420's post on how priority works, higher damage = higher priority, and it does some nice damage.

i've cancelled it with jabs before just sayyn

 

[tubes]

what are the best options when you up throw marth after like... 35%?

but when they DI behind you (into you). For me, this is the hardest to follow up. Sometimes i do a reverse uair, or maybe a bair, but i can't seem to get anything started. On the other hand, I think it's easiest to combo uairs when he DI's away from you. There have to be options out of pretty much anything because captain falcons matchup against marth (and pretty much the entire cast) relies on his ability to combo the hell out of you

and end it with a knee

I'd go for the full jump bair uair or some variation of it. Or you could just turn around.

 

[The Irish Mafia]

Relax I think you can bair knee at 50ish, but later you're better off going for the reverse knee IMO
if they di throws in a lot just dthrow

 

[KAOSTAR]

upthrow reverse knee is sex