Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

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Jona, I'd like to personally thank you for providing genuine comedy in the form of SWF posts for almost a year now. I salute you.

 

[The Irish Mafia]

Jona, I'd like to personally thank you for providing genuine comedy in the form of SWF posts for almost a year now. I salute you.

LOL we still love the kid

Jona, People above you on the tier list =/= bad matchup. I'm simply saying that that character is better than you, and that is an advantage you will not get.

 

[P.C. Jona]

i just dont think theres a character better then jiggs right now besides maybe fox or marth

i mean with good spacing its over, you need like no tech skill and you have a **** recovery and the one hit wonder rest

theres a big possibility for error with fox, and he kinda easy to gimp sorta

marth idk you need good spacing too but its not as good as jiggs floating and amazing air game

sheik is ok, but theres no one **** with her

falcon is a beast i mean hes whack but in the right hands its just amazing

falco i think is another one that requires good tech skill and theres a good possibility for error and he can be gimped pretty easy too

idk

 

[Strong Badam]

you don't know what you're talking about

 

[P.C. Jona]

i would **** your dk

 

[DtJ Jungle]

i have no idea what you said.

 

[The Irish Mafia]

we just completely avoided the topic at hand

Jona started talking about the tier list, and now people are arguing
Can we talk about how falcon's actually good

 

[DtJ Jungle]

He is ?

 

[The Irish Mafia]

Read the post I did last page

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I'm definitely joking :/

 

[The Irish Mafia]

lol
internet sarcasm=impossible to detect

Jona's just keyboard rapping now I think

 

[TresChikon]

It seems reasonable where Jona is coming from, I guess he's just emphasizing that the top tiers still have some glaring weaknesses, while Jiggs cover hers well.

 

[GamerGuitarist7]

yeah falcon is so bad he doesn't have autocombos on fastfallers like cargo uthrow uair uair uair uair uair uair uair uair bair or suicide monkeydrops

but no on a serious note, DK is an awful character but so is every single low tier, and when they see a character do something good (which falcon can occasionally do) they say that the character is better than theirs, which is true because low tiers are bad tournament characters

that said falcon is NOT included in my list of GOOD tournament characters simply because of his limitations in TOP level competitive play, at high levels falcon can compete well and at above-average levels he is VERY good, but at the top level of competitive play in smash CF is a very bad tournament character

his good matchups vs other tournament-viable characters include no one, he DEBATABLY beats peach and marth but seasoned pros who know those matches well will tell you they are stage-dependent and ultimately even

falcon loses DECIDEDLY to fox, falco, sheik, jigglypuff, and only wins vs marth and peach if the player is better than the opponent, not like how sheik players can beat half the cast even if the other guy is better

falcon does **** low tiers but how often do you run into a low tier in tourney

relative to every other character in the game, falcon is great. relative to tournament-viable characters he is right in the middle. relative to tournament-winning characters, he is BAD.

not that i'm johnning, because i love him to death and will never stop playing him, but there's such a thing as reality

amazing post.

 

[Mogwai]

The tier list blows, Jiggs is 4th behind Falco, Fox, and Sheik in singles, and is tied for 1st with Fox in teams.

 

[Roneblaster]

Just read the title of the thread

no good matchups

/quitlife

 

[Alukard]

The tier list blows, Jiggs is 4th behind Falco, Fox, and Sheik in singles, and is tied for 1st with Fox in teams.

i've been saying this for the longest time lol

 

[Roneblaster]

Alu, do you have a main? Or do you just play whoever, whenever?

 

[Alukard]

Alu, do you have a main? Or do you just play whoever, whenever?

sheik/fox.falco/samus/marth

i believe in that order from best to worst =D

 

[JPOBS]

falcon's biggest problem is he gets screwed over on counterpicls

 

[Alukard]

i personally think its his approach ... because he doesn't have a safe one ... but when he's in ... he's ****ing in ... kinda like zangeif in sf lol

 

[Tomacawk]

or like my D when I work on the ladies

 

[TresChikon]

EDIT: stupid post, trying to fight off urge to respond obscenely

 

[NES n00b]

i personally think its his approach ... because he doesn't have a safe one ... but when he's in ... he's ****ing in ... kinda like zangeif in sf lol

There are a good amount of problems compared to the top tiers, but yeah, I would rate that as probably one of his worst. Top three no doubt.

 

[BigD!!!]

falcon is right where he belongs

the best character out of all the ones that arent good enough

 

[The Irish Mafia]

Yet above jiggs?

I actually think a new tier list is in order. C falc, Peach, and jiggs have seen a lot more representation recently, and that deserves some official recognition

 

[Scar]

lol no who said that

fox/falco jiggs/sheik marth peach falcon

i think falcon ***** on cp stages tho idk who's saying he gets ****ed over on them, lava knees, car knees, **** punish for chars who actually land with upB on mute city, maneuverability for floats/cruise, the list goes on

 

[KAOSTAR]

all this EC falcon self pity lol

 

[P.C. Jona]

because ec falcons are the only ones that matter

 

[Roneblaster]

whatever you say tomacawk

 

[Tomacawk]

cawk is in my name. just sayin'
and ec falcons blow
come to the midwest
we have infinitely more falcon players
and some of them are pretty good =P

 

[ihavespaceblondes]

all this EC falcon self pity lol

They have to play people like Jman, Cactuar, and M2K on a regular basis, I think they've earned a little self pity.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Yah, that'd be pretty **** gay.

 

[Ripple]

all I'm hearing are johns

 

[Drecker]

Don't get him wound up.

 

[Strong Badam]

because ec falcons are the only ones that matter

so is that why an EC falcon has like never been debated or discussed to be the greatest falcon, currently or of all time, before scar, who himself says he isn't?

 

[P.C. Jona]

They have to play people like Jman, Cactuar, and M2K on a regular basis, I think they've earned a little self pity.

and because of that

we have the best falcons

 

[otg]

I think Jona was implying that on the whole EC Falcons > the rest of the country. Quantity does not equal quality.

 

[Mogwai]

so is that why an EC falcon has like never been debated or discussed to be the greatest falcon, currently or of all time, before scar, who himself says he isn't?

Scar and Hax should both be talked of in the same breath as Darkrain at this point. And frankly, all 3 would completely assrape Isai's Falcon. No disrespect to him, he was an inspiration in the early days, but the game has evolved a lot since he played and there should be no question that the modern Falcons are better with CF than Isai.

 

[Strong Badam]

i would **** your dk

oh **** real talk this guy says he'd **** my dk on the internets.

 

[P.C. Jona]

so is that why an EC falcon has like never been debated or discussed to be the greatest falcon, currently or of all time, before scar, who himself says he isn't?

scar right now at this point in time

has the best falcon out of any falcon main, and at genesis he had the best falcon

i dont even think darkrain is gonna play anymore

then in a close second is hax, because hax is so freakin good

have you seen him tech chase ?

oh **** real talk this guy says he'd **** my dk on the internets.

duh