Scar
#HarveyDent
Yeah I've tried to say that like 100x in the opening post. Maybe there are some smart n00bs who read it that we don't see, but it sure hasn't gotten rid of all of them.
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Scar on the Melee vs Brawl debate: What does competitive really mean?
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thesage
Smash Hero
So now my friends all play melee instead of brawl, but all the tournaments are brawl tournaments XP. I have to practice by myself now actually. What's to practice though? IFSJ is hard but that's it, and only situation at most lol.
Nigerian Star Storm
Smash Ace
Lol?
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10chars
Proverbs
Smash Lord
arrowhead
Smash Ace
sorry. '08 join date
Fletch
Smash Master
That video was exciting for about 30 seconds.
Proverbs
Smash Lord
True, but he said '08 join date and under 100 posts. Both conditions need to be met for the 'don't post' to be put into place.
It was sarcastic as I'm sure you know, anyway.
Aesir
Smash Master
Oh no! over 100! sound the alarm we have an intellectual on our hands.
LOL_Master
Smash Lord
um...a person's stupid regardless when they join, it just happens that most idiots join in 08 and posts idiotic posts
Proverbs
Smash Lord
Let us seriously hope you did not miss the fact that my statement was oozing with sarcasm. Who cares about posts? Posts are not some way to measure intelligence. There are some who take months to register on smashboards and instead take those months to read other posts--to listen and to learn. However, I chose to register and take that time to help develop strategies for a still expanding game, which is Brawl. So far I am working on developing a stage specific strategy for Ness that could end up in a very creative way to play him, should Green Greens not be banned as well as helping the Captain Falcon mains figure out how to keep up with competitive play when their main is being debated as the worst character in the game.
I could have made under fifty posts and done the same. I could have been incredibly intelligent and made spoke sound argument clearly without racking up some ridiculous number of posts.
What bothers me is when people feel like they can tell others to back out just because their post counter isn't high enough. Grow up. If someone's making a stupid comment you can inform them without being a jerk. Stupid comments come from people who registered long before '08 and have much more than 100 posts. I've seen some of them.
So don't come around here thinking you can be a jerk because you have some amount of posts. It really doesn't matter and isn't helping further discussion. I'm just here to put out there that while we're having our discussion about competition (Yes, it's ridiculous to think we've gotten so off topic already) that we continue to be courteous to one another--as men should do.
So if you consider yourself an intellectual, then be smart enough to realize that telling people off doesn't help serious discussion at all.
^ This.
I'm sorry if what I said came off as crass, Proverbs, but it's the honest to God truth. People that prove themselves otherwise (such as yourself) aren't the ones getting flamed by regular members of the community. It's people like Halloween Captain, and others that will go unnamed, that are literally making the Smash community look ignorant and unstable.
LOL_Master
Smash Lord
the thing is, people can have their opinions about whatever, when they first post, they are putting themselves out there. It shows what they know and what they are arguing about. It's the ones that posts endlessly about the SAME bullshirt over and over again, when they've already been proven wrong several times, that get flamed or looked down upon.
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
Look, I was having a bad night at the time, GET OVER IT.
The 2008 groups are going to be Brawl fanatics because that is the primary reason people join in 2008. Many of them are Melee noobs, and don't give a **** about Melee anymore, if they bothered to pick it up in the first place. In fact, in many cases it seems that any question of Brawl's superiority is an affront on them.
However, you should expect to get flamed by noobs if you ask people on the Brawl boards which is the better game in any aspect, as there are NO BRAWL VETERANS to be able to intelligently defend their opinions. Its just too new a game for there to be anyone who can claim even six months experience with it to have much of an intelligent discussion.
With that said, flaming Brawl individuals will not get them to be any more appreciative of melee, but rather look down upon the melee community as elitest and/or stubbornly defiant of growing (Brawl) trends.
P.S.:
New Brawl AT?
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174137
here's a link to it being used practically
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdFZ13AA1w8
Idiots complaining about the same things in Brawl since last month and more idiots trying to avoid those complaints by pointing out the same good things in Brawl since last month.
Grunt
Smash Master
LOL_Master
Smash Lord
lmao, nice one halloween jackolantern captain....naaaaaaaaaat. and the veterans that you are talking about for brawl...is gonna be M2K, and a lot of melee players, then maybe a brawl kid here and there, and let me tell you, those veterans, WILL STILL SAY THAT MELEE IS A BETTER GAME, go away until it's actually halloween
M.K
Level 55
Whoever wants to play Melee, go play Melee.
Whoever wants to play Brawl, go play Brawl.
Is it really that hard?
Whoever wants to play Brawl, go play Brawl.
Is it really that hard?
Samochan
Smash Master
Kinda, since you need 2 people to play both games. >_> People on some areas have gone to play brawl and don't play melee anymore. <_<
He did, but I didn't, and then I laughed at his post.
It would be that easy if there wasn't a 1000/1 ratio of Brawl to Melee tournaments. Then there would be no problem. As it stands though, the majority vote to play a bad game overpowers the better choice.
If that was a bad night, I'm having a hard time getting over the other 95% of the time where you express your ignorance.
Jack Kieser
Smash Champion
I'll say the same thing here that I said in the 'Brawlers hate us-What can we do?' thread in Melee Disc. (yes, there is such a thread and yes, it is a ******** and self-centered concept):
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=172420
Now can I ***** and complain? I'm the only one to hold a melee tournament in AZ since... Febuary... I think.
Jack Kieser
Smash Champion
Yes, feel free to ***** and complain.
Thanks
This also brings me to a point. If you don't like Brawl and you aren't going to tournaments, THEN HOLD ONE! It's not hard. You set a date, location, and then ask other people to bring things that you need. DONE (basically).
I hate not having melee tournaments, I really really do. That's why I'm hosting one. If everyone that likes melee holds a tournament at some point this year, think how many there would be!!!
Who knows, you may like it and end up holding another.
My main problem is arranging a location, as I doubt my house will be sufficient. I'll give it some thought.
And possibly parents more accepting of having noisy gamers in their house.
Jack Kieser
Smash Champion
Quoted for f**kin' truth. Listen to this man; he knows what he's talking about.
Proverbs
Smash Lord
Hey, I just wanted to commend you for responding so maturely here (if that sounded sarcastic, it wasn't). Most people would have just continued and said that my two hundredwhatever posts was still insufficient and that I didn't matter either.
Thanks for apologizing as I really didn't expect it. I was actually coming back here to apologize because I feel like I got a bit out of line. You had ground for what you were saying (although the way you said it was what bothered me and I still think was unneeded) and I didn't need to go off on a tangent the way I did (the tangent was more after Aesir responded). But even so, you would be right in taking the number of posts into account. It does show reputation and people coming in saying overly repeated phrases that don't contribute are indeed inhibiting intelligent discussion.
Sorry if I came across as self-righteous, I definitely feel like I was at that point.
Aesir
Smash Master
My post was meant to be humorous.
I knew he wasn't being seriously, I'm not brain dead like half the people who post on swf.
Samochan
Smash Master
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=172132
Mwheee! For melee-torneyhosters, since it came up. :3
Mwheee! For melee-torneyhosters, since it came up. :3
Can anybody explain me this:
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=HEm-rQHRtvQ&fmt=18
That is the most intense Brawl battle I've ever seen.
Why do these two guys fight quickly, without projectile camping/turtling? This is just the opposite of what is commonly accepted in this thread. It is like an AT-less Melee!
Could it be that japanese are actually playing competitively instead of arguing what game is better?
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=HEm-rQHRtvQ&fmt=18
That is the most intense Brawl battle I've ever seen.
Why do these two guys fight quickly, without projectile camping/turtling? This is just the opposite of what is commonly accepted in this thread. It is like an AT-less Melee!
Could it be that japanese are actually playing competitively instead of arguing what game is better?
Why is playing without projectile camping/turtling "playing competitively?" Sounds more to me like "playing for enjoyment." Of which the two typically happened to be similar in Melee, but not so much in Brawl.
Also, the most intense Brawl battle you've ever seen makes me zone out at around 1:03. Which is about 48 seconds longer than normally, but eh.
Reaver197
Smash Lord
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Because Japanese people play with honor, not like dirty American smashers. Ha ha.
Seriously, it's just the fact that they're both playing aggressively, which is the worst way to play Brawl. It only works and looks good because they both do it. All it takes is just one of them to start to take advantage of the defensive aspect of the game, and all that goes down the drain.
Jack Kieser
Smash Champion
@Ankoku: Playing without projectile camping or turtling isn't inherently more competitive, but it is antithetical to what everyone is saying about the current Brawl metagame. And, are we supposed to care that you zone out at 1:03? Here's a cookie? Big deal; you'd have to be either purposefully ignoring the video or a giant douche to deny that the fighting in that vid is not what is usually categorized as a 'Brawl fight', and that the two guys are moving at speeds rivaling early Melee play. Is it more interesting than Melee vids? That's not the point, nor is it what that vid was brought up to discuss. Is it faster than what we've been seeing from American players? Hell yes it is.
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