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Recovery Tier List
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Nogzor'z
Smash Journeyman
Im going to assume that you meant to say "yoshi's Fair"... and if this was the case, no it does not give extra horizontal movement.
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Эикельманн [РУС]
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GOD! is the equivalent of Kawaii Poyo and P.O.F combined.
AND Neighborhood P.
AND Neighborhood P.
1st indicator
Should have been obvious
Really obvious by now
and I ended with the insult for no reason. that was an ok combo i feel like..
john!
Smash Hero
wow you're so cool
AHEM on topic
falco's recovery is underrated
AHEM on topic
falco's recovery is underrated
hey look incredibly broad statement which doesnt actually state anything
it could mean his recover is really good or garbage. depending on who's rating
and if I wanted to be cool I would sure as hell wouldn't reply to your provocative posts
it could mean his recover is really good or garbage. depending on who's rating
and if I wanted to be cool I would sure as hell wouldn't reply to your provocative posts
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
neighborhoodp was funny
Lordydennek
Smash Ace
Great recovery-
Puff
Peach/samus
pika
link
mewtwo
Good Recovery-
Kirby? when he aint completely dead
pichu
sheik/marth/Ylink
Zelda/mario/fox
ICs
Yoshi
Average-
G&W
Ganon
falcon/Dk
Poop-
Luigi
falco/doc
Bowser
Ness
Roy
Puff
Peach/samus
pika
link
mewtwo
Good Recovery-
Kirby? when he aint completely dead
pichu
sheik/marth/Ylink
Zelda/mario/fox
ICs
Yoshi
Average-
G&W
Ganon
falcon/Dk
Poop-
Luigi
falco/doc
Bowser
Ness
Roy
Stevo
Smash Champion
Kirby has bad recovery ( or "Poop" if you want)
and solo climber should be mentioned
and solo climber should be mentioned
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Adam, IS funny.
Also This thread is dead to me now. Lorddennek just broke it. ITs broke, u cant fix it.
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Pragmatic
Smash Journeyman
Says the person who uses trolling as an excuse to cover up his excessive lack of knowledge regarding Yoshi's recovery.
MalwareDie
Smash Cadet
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TheGoat
Smash Ace
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yea
i mean really, just look at some sets. people do not edgeguard spacies with 100% success, they have good ****ing options. falco has bad range, but in retrospect, his recovery isnt that bad.
Lordydennek
Smash Ace
You spelled my name wrong also. if you think that list is serious....well then...well then.
Doc King
Smash Lord
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A lot better than having Falco in the upper tier and Link in the middle when Falco has somewhat short range and a lot of beginning lag with the up-b.
MalwareDie
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You need to be banned immediately.
otg
Smash Master
I'll take a crack at this. I'm not going to bother putting characters into order within the tiers because there is no point:
Stupid Good Tier:
Jiggs
Nearly Impossible to Edgeguard Tier:
m2/peach/pichu/pika
Characters with Solid Recovery Options but can still be exploited tier:
Falco/Fox/Link/Samus/Y.Link
Our UpB's have 0 Vertical/horizontal movement Tier or We Get ***** by Landing Lag Tier:
Bowser/DK/Falcon/Ganon/GnW/Kirby/Luigi/Mario/Marth/Sheik/Zelda
Clearly Bottom Tier:
Doc/Ness/Roy/SoPo
The two characters I didn't really know where to place are Yoshi and Ice Climbers. I don't know enough about Yoshi to place him, and I have a hard time justifying the Icies recovery as good ... but it's not bad either. It's just way too situational.
Stupid Good Tier:
Jiggs
Nearly Impossible to Edgeguard Tier:
m2/peach/pichu/pika
Characters with Solid Recovery Options but can still be exploited tier:
Falco/Fox/Link/Samus/Y.Link
Our UpB's have 0 Vertical/horizontal movement Tier or We Get ***** by Landing Lag Tier:
Bowser/DK/Falcon/Ganon/GnW/Kirby/Luigi/Mario/Marth/Sheik/Zelda
Clearly Bottom Tier:
Doc/Ness/Roy/SoPo
The two characters I didn't really know where to place are Yoshi and Ice Climbers. I don't know enough about Yoshi to place him, and I have a hard time justifying the Icies recovery as good ... but it's not bad either. It's just way too situational.
Archangel
Smash Hero
JPOBS
Smash Hero
i think pika and pichu should be moved into "solid recovery but still be exploited" tier.
they arent NEARLY as hard to edgeguard as peach/m2, and only barely harder than fox/samus etc
they arent NEARLY as hard to edgeguard as peach/m2, and only barely harder than fox/samus etc
otg
Smash Master
See, if Falco had 0 vertical/horizontal movement in his UpB, or if he had sever landing lag after he landed on stage from either his upb or sideb, then he would fall into that category.
Instead, he has one of the best double jumps, a wall jump, a side b that is very fast/has no landing lag/can be shortened at multiple points/upB has 360 degree angles and autosweetspot on ledge mix up from above.
Yeah, pretty good imo.
Instead, he has one of the best double jumps, a wall jump, a side b that is very fast/has no landing lag/can be shortened at multiple points/upB has 360 degree angles and autosweetspot on ledge mix up from above.
Yeah, pretty good imo.
john!
Smash Hero
move sopo, doc, zelda, mario, g&w, and ganon up and you've got a solid list
BigWenz
Smash Ace
Shown below is why doc king either needs to get banned for serious trolling or is a fcking ******
u need to meteor cancel all u do is hold up
she is not gimpable unless the puff player is ******** and even then it takes a special kind of ******** to get gimped as jigglypuff
her recovery is da best she can make it back to the stage without ever using a jump.You have good points there but I think that Falco is decent overall.
I don't think that Puff is that good to be in a tier of her own.
u need to meteor cancel all u do is hold up
she is not gimpable unless the puff player is ******** and even then it takes a special kind of ******** to get gimped as jigglypuff
I really like otg's list.
I would move GnW up. he has ok horizontal (not on his upb, but if you just hold to the right and let him fall he can get back from almost anything). But I really don't care, your list is really solid.
And I've seen plenty of puffs get shine spiked. She doesn't realy have good vertical honestly, and a patient player can usually hit her if she's forced to recover middle/low. I would put m2 in the same tier as jiggs actually. but otg's list kind of ends the thread.
I would move GnW up. he has ok horizontal (not on his upb, but if you just hold to the right and let him fall he can get back from almost anything). But I really don't care, your list is really solid.
And I've seen plenty of puffs get shine spiked. She doesn't realy have good vertical honestly, and a patient player can usually hit her if she's forced to recover middle/low. I would put m2 in the same tier as jiggs actually. but otg's list kind of ends the thread.
john!
Smash Hero
good zeldas recover high and direct her up-b into the stage, where she has virtually no lag.
Fortress | Sveet
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^that. Punishable, but quite hard to do unless ur falcon or maybe fox (kels does ledgehop uair vs cosmo)
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
All the pokemon have good recoveries.
Doc King
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I didn't say that her recovery wasn't the best or anything like that, but I just think that her recovery isn't that superior to Samus's or Mewtwo's recovery (or maybe even the chus and Peach) to be in a tier of her own.
You seriously need to stop trolling and get banned yourself if your gonna keep trolling like this.
BigWenz
Smash Ace
I didn't say that her recovery wasn't the best or anything like that, but I just think that her recovery isn't that superior to Samus's or Mewtwo's recovery (or maybe even the chus and Peach) to be in a tier of her own.
You seriously need to stop trolling and get banned yourself if your gonna keep trolling like this.
puff is the hardest character to gimp almost nigh impossible and that coupled with the fact that meteor canceling is stupid easy and automatic (just hold up) so going off stage to try and do that is not really a smart option. and if someone messes up trying to gimp u / out right kill u off stage u take their stock. That is a godly recovery that no one else has.
if u honestly think im trolling off of wat i said then i take it back u arent trolling ur just a fcking ******
Winston
Smash Master
otg's list is a sight for sore eyes after seeing most of the other lists in this thread.
One thing though -
Isn't Doc really resistant to gimping because of his up B hitbox? I feel like that makes him significantly better at recovering than sopo/roy/ness, unless we aren't taking gimps into account for this.
One thing though -
Isn't Doc really resistant to gimping because of his up B hitbox? I feel like that makes him significantly better at recovering than sopo/roy/ness, unless we aren't taking gimps into account for this.
BigWenz
Smash Ace
i mean the up b makes it so that u can counter somones gimp attempt at u i.e fox trying to shine spike u and u drop slightly lower then up and u get a nice stage spike but docs problem kinda lies in when he crosses the line of being either above or below the stage. if u can catch him here u can kinda do what u want and it will probably kill doc. however i dont think doc's recovery is on the same tier as roy ness and sopo cause those recoveries are waay shiittier then docs. I also find it slightly ironic that doc is so low in the recovery list when he ****s on almost everyone elses recovery (bair + cape is the end all to almost all recoveries)
The Star King
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I agree, Doc shouldn't be in the same tier with Roy/Ness/SoPo. Just watch any match with Shroomed. Don't get me wrong, his recovery is awful, but not as bad as the other three in his tier.
Fortress | Sveet
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There are parts of the recovery process where doc leaves himself terribly open. Watch any shroomed match vs someone good and watch them edgeguard him. If he pills, lightshield edgehog. If not, jump out and smack him. If he does downb, jump out and smack him. Smack him once in any part and he is dead or edgehog and **** him up like sheik.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
m2 has the 2nd best top tier recovery. no exceptions unless he is first.
1048576
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What if he recovers low?
I agree that Jiggs doesn't deserve her own tier. She has a hard time accumulating vertical distance, and she certainly can't do it quickly, so she has to go way out and way back in to not get spiked again, and sometimes theres just not enough distance, even with an 8 frame meteor cancel. It's true that Doc can't touch her though, since he doesn't have any downward sending moves, although it's pretty easy to ledgehop bair her a few times while she's trying to recover if you bair her off the stage.
She still has the best recovery though.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
If he recovers low just stall properly and hit him when he gets close while you're still flashing and invincible.
Doc is still far more resistant to gimps than Ness, Roy, SoPo.
And his recovery is definitely a lot better than theirs.
Doc is still far more resistant to gimps than Ness, Roy, SoPo.
And his recovery is definitely a lot better than theirs.