Sadly, no. As of now, it is not possible.
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Broletariat
Smash Cadet
Aw man, I was freaking out about the possibility of getting smashed off and then coming back with the same velocity while shouting "Doyoh!" I refuse to give up, though. If there's a mechanic that allows us to reverse our momentum at normal jump speeds, there's gotta be one for faster speeds. Back to the drawing board(training room).
Alus
Smash Champion
If a mechanic like that exists, the competitive scene of brawl will die the moment it gets exposed.
Or the said mechanic could get banned?
Or the said mechanic could get banned?
tedward2000
Smash Champion
The Lucario Boomerang mechanic. heh
I see what he means, which is like using the running/jumping velocity mechanic that is used for Broversal, on ppls attacks.
This wont work partly because when lucario is running/jumping, you can Broversal from running/jumping animation.
But when you are hit lucario's Knockback is completely different from running/jumping and thus the same mechanic wont work because well for one, your being knocked back so theres some kind of stun effect going on.
If you could however make it that when Lucario is hit by an attack he moves but isn't stunned, then you could very well Broversal, hell you could just Dair and stop moving all together.
Ban worthy? I say maybe, it would mean if this was widestream that everyones attacks could be buffered to just pushing, and all those deaths from just Knockback stun would become pointless.
If such a thing was ever figured out, I would have to call Brawl, Nerf.
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phi1ny3
Not the Mama
I keep forgetting, how does Fox escape the uthrow CG after 12%?
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
btw, I talked to TeeKayDee about this, I think we'll need to re-explore the CG on fox, because I don't think we tested it with buffering, he said he COULD NOT shine out of it in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pclwmndc4ko&feature=email#t=2m05s
And everyone who knows TKD knows he's no slouch in this game.
Maybe a look again at the CG is necessary?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pclwmndc4ko&feature=email#t=2m05s
And everyone who knows TKD knows he's no slouch in this game.
Maybe a look again at the CG is necessary?
Shine is frame 3. Jumping is frame 1 or so. Probably needs until frame 2-3 to get out of Luc's grab range. Not that surprising honestly. I could've sworn the CG was tested to be legit from the start.
MJG
Smash Hero
How do you wavebounce through the air to change directions with Neutral B?
Broletariat
Smash Cadet
Ok, there's an easy way with B-sticking, but it's lame.
Here's an easy explination:
Press B!
Smash the opposite direction!
Here's how to make it work: time your thumb movements so that you hit the alternate direction immediately after pressing B. Just hop into training mode and jump up and down while pressing B and smashing the opposite direction(from where you are facing).
From there it's a simple matter of using that same technique while jumping forward. Some say it's not important, but man is it awesomely confusing to people.
EDIT: Question for you ol' pros. What's keeping Lucario from being higher tier?
Edit 2: On my previous epic idea of the lucario momentum halt w/ a B reversal, it sadly won't work with hit stun, however, if you're ever in the mood for some real hard giggles, time a Breversal juuuuust right on frigate orpheon.(Hint: When the stage flips.)
Here's an easy explination:
Press B!
Smash the opposite direction!
Here's how to make it work: time your thumb movements so that you hit the alternate direction immediately after pressing B. Just hop into training mode and jump up and down while pressing B and smashing the opposite direction(from where you are facing).
From there it's a simple matter of using that same technique while jumping forward. Some say it's not important, but man is it awesomely confusing to people.
EDIT: Question for you ol' pros. What's keeping Lucario from being higher tier?
Edit 2: On my previous epic idea of the lucario momentum halt w/ a B reversal, it sadly won't work with hit stun, however, if you're ever in the mood for some real hard giggles, time a Breversal juuuuust right on frigate orpheon.(Hint: When the stage flips.)
iRJi
Smash Champion
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Nothing, he will most likely switch the next tier list.
A few things. Bad matchups with higher ups, abusable recovery, less overall range than people who matter, aura being a double-edged sword, few reliable kill moves, slow grounded attack speed, etc. Just basic character weaknesses. He'll probably be high tier again, but he's not going to make THAT much of a jump, if any.
culexus・wau
Purchased premium only to change name ><
- "Average-ness"
- No advantages on S to High A tiers.
- low representation [getting fixed]
- Aura is very variable and weird to judge over solid positives on the lower A tiers
thats just my take on it other then what has already been said.
He's going to get higher though.
Broletariat
Smash Cadet
It's not a terrible disadvantage though, right? I mean, I see the MU ratios for those fights are slightly down for us, but in the end, the better player with better knowledge of the MU will win even against those tiers, right?
The_Bear735
Smash Journeyman
The MU problem is that most of Lucario's problems are very common, i.e. DDD and Diddy.
And while what you said is true, there is a certain level of "oh god the aura better save me now oh god" that comes into play.
I'd have to disagree with the less range and no reliable kill moves claim. If anything, most people ***** about Lucario having a Fsmash that can KO somewhat reliably with a disjointed hitbox that hits for a good area. Plus, most of his aerials plus Dsmash and Fsmash can KO (albeit some not as well as others without some aura boost).
And while what you said is true, there is a certain level of "oh god the aura better save me now oh god" that comes into play.
I'd have to disagree with the less range and no reliable kill moves claim. If anything, most people ***** about Lucario having a Fsmash that can KO somewhat reliably with a disjointed hitbox that hits for a good area. Plus, most of his aerials plus Dsmash and Fsmash can KO (albeit some not as well as others without some aura boost).
Broletariat
Smash Cadet
On our part or their part? I don't understand.
The_Bear735
Smash Journeyman
Meta Knight, Snake, Marth, King Dedede, and maybe Diddy Kong are what I mean by us having less range. Maybe you could add on characters like DK and Mr GnW, but they can be slowed down with fsmash, so maybe not.
Fizzle_Boy
Smash Ace
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Diddy? I know a good diddy can be trouble, but that matchup is in Luc's favor.
On the other hand, the D3 matchup is undoubtedly one of Lucario's worst nightmares.
Aurasmash14
Smash Lord
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wait. Diddy has more range on his attacks than lucario?
culexus・wau
Purchased premium only to change name ><
a banana is a free almost anymove
a banana has more range and priority then any move lucario has
and diddy VS luc is not our favor.
AT ALL
go**** I'm just like lee
a banana has more range and priority then any move lucario has
and diddy VS luc is not our favor.
AT ALL
go**** I'm just like lee
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
He's a filthy butt-scratching monkey, who litters too.
What more do we need to say?
What more do we need to say?
Aurasmash14
Smash Lord
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that he probably acquired those clothes by molesting little kiddies.
our matches are depressing btw. i wonder why we havent dropped to C-tier.
We haven't dropped to C-tier because even though our character is terrible, everyone below us is even worse. :V
The_Bear735
Smash Journeyman
BF, SV, etc. are the only times that you can use Nair reliably on people who aren't Snake and company. Poke away with Nair.
Your mom is safe on block on Manondorf.
Broletariat
Smash Cadet
Guys. Guys.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genme...topic=52852978
This is what quotes like that do. =P
The_Bear735
Smash Journeyman
404'd, try again next time.
Broletariat
Smash Cadet
That is so lame, it would have been hilarious. =/
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=928518&topic=52852978
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=928518&topic=52852978
Aurasmash14
Smash Lord
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**** that guy. he had the BALLS to say we are lower than the pokemon trainer!
Broletariat
Smash Cadet
He said we were lower than Ganon. Ganon!
Aurasmash14
Smash Lord
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meh. he has obviously never got his *** kicked by a good lucario.
Col. Stauffenberg
Smash Lord
He's a troll.
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
^It's hard to tell though, since that's something that would be GameFAQs logic lolz.
But yeah, seems like trolling.
But yeah, seems like trolling.
This is an actual question BTW
When an opponent is in the air above me I try to utilt, but i don't know a fast way to have the tilt going up. Usually i try to slowly move it up as not to jump but that isnt fast enough, other times i UPsmash but they float away from me.
So...
What do most people do to get off utilts fastly?
When an opponent is in the air above me I try to utilt, but i don't know a fast way to have the tilt going up. Usually i try to slowly move it up as not to jump but that isnt fast enough, other times i UPsmash but they float away from me.
So...
What do most people do to get off utilts fastly?
The_Bear735
Smash Journeyman
Utilt comes faster from the back. if you're facing your opponent, learn to pivot utilt on command because it's useful. It's also good for punishing people who float right next to you.