Project M Social Thread

[Jonas]

I don't care what it means, I just know it means Project M is going to be AMAZING and that's what counts.

 

[Dantarion]

The highlighted function says something like stop the implementation of the module, which would fit the bill.

Actually, its one of the functions for the Stop module, which I believe refers to what we call Hitlag

also, this is sora_melee.rel LOL

 

[GHNeko]

w-whats that?

that sound?

it's the sound of someone getting told

 

[Supreme Dirt]

GASP SORA'S GOING TO BE IN PROJECT:M GAIZ!

Also, I really think I can guess what this Wiimote code is, judging from the people working on it, and the post mentioning it. I wasn't aware there was a code lying around to edit those particular things, now I have to hunt for it. Though then again, it can't be a particularly hard code to make.

I'm curious as to what you used it to do, but I can guess which one you picked.

 

[shanus]

sora_melee.rel is the main rel file that controls most aspects of the game. Think of it as like the fighter.pac of rels

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I'd figured as much.

I really wish I had the time to learn ASM to help with it.

 

[Phantom1987]

I don't know what's happening!! But if this means we can expect many updates anytime soon... AWESOME!

 

[genkaku]

Question I've been wondering about: When the Brawl developers were working did they just tweak and update melee codes, or write a new set of codes that refered vaguely to melee's? How much of what they wrote for Brawl was new?

 

[Xinc]

There's Sora in Brawl, what?

GASP SORA'S GOING TO BE IN PROJECT:M GAIZ!

Lolwut?? Awesome, yet the knowledge of this confuses me.

 

[MonkUnit]

Didn't Sakurai have some company with Sora in it? Like Sora Unlimited or something? IIRC he was in the sora company when he made melee. Hence Sora_Melee.rel

Correct me if I am wrong on anything.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Sora Ltd.

RTFM people.
Also, the back of the box. -_-

That name is like their sig in the game.

 

[ds22]

Shared
Object
Random
Accesser
:V

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

How.... clever of them?

Sora ltd. was not in existence until about 2006.

Anyway, if for whatever reason the keyblade wielder does get made, let me know cause I have his motion file and a viewer to see them. No keyblade in the motion file though.

 

[standardtoaster]

http://projet-troika.blogspot.com/2011/01/retrospective-super-smash-bros-project.html

blog post by Vigilante_blade. Most important parts is about project m.

 

[kaizo13]

holy **** Zel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Kwg4LG5s8

 

[Revven]

Yeah Ganondorf vs MK is a really fun match-up, I have like 5 matches up of it on my channel. (www.youtube.com/user/smk2)

Question I've been wondering about: When the Brawl developers were working did they just tweak and update melee codes, or write a new set of codes that refered vaguely to melee's? How much of what they wrote for Brawl was new?

A lot of our codes are made from scratch using what's in the game already. There was no "melee air dodge" coding for example, it's a bunch of different variables and so forth that make that code work. But there are some instances where you just scratch your head at what Sakurai was thinking when they built this game.

For example: Momentum stacking (what makes Falco's JC shine > Dair not work some of the time) is done entirely different in vBrawl compared to Melee. In vBrawl it's a constant number that has to be met/beaten in order for the new move's KB to take affect. In Melee it's frame based (okay that's not as detailed as vBrawl is because I don't want to be castrated by Magus for saying the wrong thing) and the reason why you would scratch your head on that is because... if it worked just fine in Melee why change it here? It's almost as if they didn't follow the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" motto. Either that or forgot how it worked in Melee... (which is lol if they really did).

shanus & Dantarion can probably give you a better answer though.

 

[King Funk]

holy **** Zel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Kwg4LG5s8

Ending is priceless.

 

[Sneak8288]

vids coming tonight

 

[GP&B]

I... want to say I know what you're talking about and if I'm thinking about the same thing, I have noticed it in Brawl. You're talking about how a character might be flying at high speed from a high knockback attack and then someone jabs him, but it doesn't nullify the knockback like it would in Melee and SSB64, right?

That, or I'm completely off mark with this.

 

[Revven]

I... want to say I know what you're talking about and if I'm thinking about the same thing, I have noticed it in Brawl. You're talking about how a character might be flying at high speed from a high knockback attack and then someone jabs him, but it doesn't nullify the knockback like it would in Melee and SSB64, right?

That, or I'm completely off mark with this.

That's actually correct, yes. It's also assumed that may be the reason why Toon Link's Dsmash (in vBrawl) has that "glitch" where the previous hit's KB isn't overridden at times (meaning the angle doesn't change). Well... that's not really a glitch, that's because of what the vBrawl dev team instated in the game LOL.

 

[IYM!]

the ending was so cool Xd

 

[Ulevo]

Ending is priceless.

1:47

There's proof enough that footstools still have their place.

Ending was hilarious.

 

[GP&B]

For a moment, I kept thinking of the annoying addition of fastfalling through characters with Tink and Link's Dair; not the same thing.

Anyways, I'm assuming this constant hasn't been found yet? Otherwise, it'd probably be fixed then, heh.

 

[Revven]

Anyways, I'm assuming this constant hasn't been found yet? Otherwise, it'd probably be fixed then, heh.

Incorrect, it was found a long time ago. However, we want it to work like Melee so we can perfect Crouch Canceling and ASDI. Otherwise if we didn't need to make it work like Melee we would have changed the constant a month or two ago.

 

[GP&B]

So, it just needs lots and lots of experimentation until it matches?

 

[Revven]

So, it just needs lots and lots of experimentation until it matches?

It's more like... we need to do a lot of different stuff to try and get all these things working right without any weird or strange bugs.

 

[Ulevo]

I revamped FrozenHobo and GameWatching's Metal Cavern stage to give it a Brawl feel and take away the low quality 2D background. After a few touch ups I'll throw up the download link for anyone who wants it.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

It sounds like they just wanted things to happen that felt "random" a lot more in Brawl to keep a sense of bizarreness and wackiness. Don't hate.

 

[GP&B]

It's more like... we need to do a lot of different stuff to try and get all these things working right without any weird or strange bugs.

Ah, makes sense. Hoping you guys will get things to click with this like everything else has so far. It's kind of a small factor in the game, but it's happened enough times to bug me (and I'm sure others too).

@Ulevo
I quite like the background. I'll definitely download it when it's done.

 

[ssbkid~]

I revamped FrozenHobo and GameWatching's Metal Cavern stage to give it a Brawl feel and take away the low quality 2D background. After a few touch ups I'll throw up the download link for anyone who wants it.

Looks pretty damn awesome.
Should be put in the official demo imo.

 

[curry9186]

holy **** Zel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Kwg4LG5s8

'twas amazing. Nice use of footstooling at 1: 50 too.

EDIT: Ulevo super ninja'd me. Nice work on the stage by the way.

 

[MonkUnit]

I am not fond of that background.

 

[Ulevo]

I am not fond of that background.

I'd like to improve it if you have any criticism.

 

[genkaku]

It still looks like MK's jumps are worse (as in, bad for the MK player) than they have to be.
What's the opinion of the playtesters on this?

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

That is the best way to prevent MK from using those jumps to stall/plank/scrooge etc. from what I remember.

One alternative I had in the back of my mind was removing 2 jumps.

 

[Strong Badam]

It still looks like MK's jumps are worse (as in, bad for the MK player) than they have to be.
What's the opinion of the playtesters on this?

MK isn't finalized and won't be in the demo. He isn't a point of concern for you or us at the moment.

 

[Revven]

It still looks like MK's jumps are worse (as in, bad for the MK player) than they have to be.
What's the opinion of the playtesters on this?

He has a different jumping system at the moment. Instead of jumps getting smaller and smaller as you jump, they progressively get bigger. So they start off short, then at the end they are bigger. It's not a gravity issue, it's something that's being tried out and some people actually like this so far. It's to suit his FF'er nature and it actually works really well for him.

 

[Ulevo]

Smaller jumps also keep his recovery in check, and give him better aerial control when trying to space aerials for combos. That'd be my guess, anyhow.

 

[hotdogturtle]

holy **** Zel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Kwg4LG5s8

Ha, now this is one of those videos that would go well with that idea of not labeling PM videos. Uninformed people would be more interested in watching Ganondorf beat up MK if they didn't know that it was hacked.

Also, holy **** that match was great. The best (or first?) use of footstooling that I've seen in PM, and the last kill was amazing.

Edit: Also, the second match - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uAiIggDSAE
Seeing Ganondorf do the classic Melee chain throw on a new Brawl character was a very good feeling :D

 

[jalued]

wont footstalls **** falco even more though? since his initial upB doesnt have a hitbox, and any sort of vertical "spike" destroys him