Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but I was not about to find it in over 800 pages worth of posts but...
Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 has 56 playable characters. About 6 of them are viable for competetive play. That game has been thriving for YEARS without banning any characters. It also has infinites. Inb4 "wahhh that's a different gamee, wahhhh, QQQQQQ"
MvC2 is a game that runs off a team with 3 characters on each team.
hence while the are, at best, 6 or 7 viable characters.
The combination of the team may also make more characters viable.
Certainly it is a requirement to have at LEAST 2 of the top 6 or 7 characters (one of which is always Magneto), you can still use other characters in your team and remain
Being competitive is not about hoping to take out top tier characters easily with lower tier characters.
No one ever made a mention of such a thing.
And as far as using frame rates to justify MK's abilities... that argument can only go so far. I agree with M2K 100% on the fact that it's theory.
There is whatis PURELY theory. (perfect Fox, perfect Eddie in guilty Gear).
And what we know to be humanly possible.
WHat is within human capability.
Fact of the matter is, he's just trying to make it seems like MK's abilities are very hard to use.
Tech skill is only a portion (a MUCH smaller portion in Brawl than in Melee) of competitive level play in fighting games. Your mind is your best tool. It's not like any simple person can sit in a room, play Metaknight for 12 hours, and then go win an MLG. Who is to say that BY CHANCE... the people that play Metaknight just so happen to be good at the game?
Awesome, then I can take out MK using Ganondorf because my mind will do SO much.
Get my exaggeration?
MK is just better equipped than everyone else, the question is if he is too good.
Considering that so many restrictions are placed on him and instead of contemplating even a temp-ban, they want to restrict him more?
I must say it looks very, very, very odd.
My last statement is clearly bizarre, but it's of the same caliber as some of the posts I have been reading in this thread. Faster frame rate data does not directly translate into a "better" character.
Correct, you have range, mobility, etc etc.
MK is the best. Simple as that.
No one else can do what he can to the same degree.
Projectiles? Yeah he doesn't ahve it, he doesn't need it either though.
It may aid in the process of determining the character's standpoint in the game, but it does not solely define a character at all. Like M2k said, if frame rates were completely manipulable, then people would be doing ridiculous things with Fox in Melee that would render the game pointless if one was to not use Fox all the time.
Except frame perfection is NOT possible. You are clearly thinking of the extrmee.
on the other hand, one must say people areplaying quite well considering that spacies make a good portion of the top 8.
got tired of addressing some rehashed argument that has been stated 5 million times.
When I see Falco's win more often, your tl;dr DR of less QQ and moar pew pew might have merit.
Falco gets ***** by the way.
Deal with it.
By the way I am on the fence.
Frankly, both sides are just so stupid to me.
Anti-ban says. "Okay his strategies are an issue, LETS RESTRICT HIM MOAR! I'd rather keep him restricted than ban him!"
The thing is, if a character has to be restricted so very much, even if it is enforceable, it places that character under scrutiny and truth be told, they should be considered for a ban.
Under no circumstance should a character remain legal if you have to limit them in 500 different ways. (arbitrary number but you understand my point).
Otherwise,I am very sure there were ways to limit SF2T Akuma in a way to keep him legal.
Banning is always the LAST resort.
On the other hand, you should not try to continuously keep a character legal that is obviously a problem.
Personally, I hate MK.
he concept of him is stupid.
His moves are stupid.
I am sick of the fact that everyone, even supposed Sonic mains, use MK.
I am sick of the fact that everyone int he top 8 whips out MK at some point (dont give me none of the BS of you wanted to just mess with him a bit).
Its stupid, its annoying.
If this was MvC2, I could deal, cause hell that game runs differently.
TvC, I HOPE you pick Karas against my Tekkaman. The first TvC not the new version mind you.
This game?
I hate MK.
I'd rather deal with SF2T Akuma.
*coughs*
Sorry ranted a bit there.
Tl;dr: If you have to limit a character that much, if you are constantly making excuses for the character based on the player. Perhaps it isn't a far fetched idea that he may be ban worthy.
