Official MBR 2010 NTSC Tier List

[JPOBS]

Anyone else find it funny that the top 2 yoshi players are complete polar opposites for posting styles?

Leffen hates everyone and wants them to know how badly their opinions suck, Vman loves everyone and is too humble to post his on opinions.

 

[BTmoney]

Can we not say the L word and get this closed again?

inb4rhetoricalquestion

 

[Awstintacious]

i played mewtwo vs zelda in sdr demo 2 and i think zelda is impossible for mewtwo cuz my cousin destroyed me

 

[Stevo]

i played mewtwo vs zelda in sdr demo 2 and i think zelda is impossible for mewtwo cuz my cousin destroyed me

/discussion

what's next on the list?

 

[Kimimaru]

Example: it was stated earlier, but I'd prolly get flamed, if I made a writeup on why I believe Yoshi vs Marth is 50/50.... I've played about every Marth you can think of... M2k, Taj, Tai, Dart, .JPG, Azen, Daheon.. Some Marths, I havent played oare, PPU, Niko, Ice.. (and sorry I'm sure there's a few I've missed) but the general point is.. I believe I have a very accurate, articulate enough statement(s) of why I have this belief... I've even taken games off of all these names above, so it wouldn't even be super theory brothers.. just tools I don't believe Yoshi gets credited for... ><

I've discussed the MU with PPU before and he also thinks it's 50/50.

 

[Purpletuce]

Both of the top Yoshis also have an affinity for drama. . . although vman mainly starts it indirectly. It is like AZ hype vs Leffen. Makes the Yoshi boards interesting.

 

[Bones0]

They are also NTSC vs. PAL. lol

 

[Dark Hart]

People actually play Mewtwo or Zelda?

Money match?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Sup guys. Has the tier list spontaneously changed since the boards went down?

 

[DrinkingFood]

Yeah Mewtwo is now high tier

 

[Divinokage]

Oh man, now we'll see everyone's super long sigs... =/

 

[DrinkingFood]

With broken links too. btw how does one spoiler now?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Oh man, now we'll see everyone's super long sigs... =/

On the old boards there was a setting to see them all. No change for me.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

Yeah Mewtwo is now high tier

Oh blessed day!

 

[leffen]

this forums looks horrible atm =/

 

[Kink-Link5]

According to monkunit that will be fixed

Until then we get this ugly whitetext

 

[strawhats]

I dunno how I feel about the new look. Gonna take some time to get used to it I guess.

 

[BTmoney]

this forums looks horrible atm =/

I agree. It's not horrible but the change looks a little forced. Like it's just different for the sake of being different.

And I can honestly say Zelda would not be bad if she moved at an acceptable pace (and maybe side b was a bit better and up B didn't have that stupid special fall) after using her a lot in friendlies lol.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

I agree. It's not horrible but the change looks a little forced. Like it's just different for the sake of being different.

Well its a completely different forum software. It will look different because its built from the ground up by completely different companies. Also keep in mind that many features haven't been added yet and it will continue to get better as time goes on.

And I can honestly say Zelda would not be bad if she moved at an acceptable pace (and maybe side b was a bit better and up B didn't have that stupid special fall) after using her a lot in friendlies lol.

Zelda has one of (if not the) best shields in the game, abuse it. Try hiding in your shield as an offense. Fair/Bair OoS is really fast (just slightly slower than peach nair oos) and you can DJ->waveland, falling 2nd kick or waveland. You can also fullhop nair OoS which can combo into a kick if they don't escape. Zelda also has one of the better rolls (iirc she is in the same roll classes as shiek) and wavedashing is always an option.

Oh and when you Upb, go high and upb into the ground, she has significant lag reduction when she lands directly on the ground (which is opposite of pikachu who has less lag if you end in the air).

 

[Deleted member]

zelda definitely has the best shield. oos game is a different story.

 

[lordvaati]

the Forums look awfully Shoryuken in here......

Sup guys. Has the tier list spontaneously changed since the boards went down?

not really, though I would not be surprised if we see changes in the matchup charts. probably with Puff vs. Yink.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Zelda's attacks are really good except for her u-smash and f-smash sometimes just not working. She's also missing a grab.

So to improve her, all you really need to do is make her moves work all the time (u-smash and f-smash would be amazing if they weren't SDIable) and give her the opportunity to make combat about attack vs. attack interactions rather than Zelda whiff into dash dance grab interactions. Which basically means movement buff and / or a quality sex kick.

 

[john!]

re: the now forum... i think new look is all right, but there are some really dumb bugs... the "latest post" button takes you to the latest post from exactly one year ago... not to mention they took away 15 posts per page... shoutouts to the remaining 15PPP master race... we fought the growing enemy horde until the bitter end...

also, avatars are ****ed up, and i don't think i can reach usergroups... but at least their room ban algorithm got ****ed up, so now i can post in the light house again LOL

takes twice as long as expected to implement with all these dumb bugs... kind of sad IMO. i'd post this in announcements discussion but the posting rights are ****ed up there too haha

 

[Beat!]

Neo Blue is pretty cool. Y'all be hatin'.

 

[Jolteon]

Generations Ruby, baby.

 

[leffen]

Generations ruby is clearly the best atm imo, but I don't like how it uses too much bright red at times.

Oh well, this will certainly be fixed with time. Overall I'm happy smashboards is trying to improve.

 

[Jolteon]

I used to use Generations Emerald, so the change isn't so significant for me. Hopefully Emerald/Sapphire come back though, would be nice for people who don't like the Red.

 

[Illuvial]

Generation Ruby is awesome, and Neo Blue looks pretty neat as well.

 

[Bones0]

I wish I could use Neo Blue, but with the white, center portion switched to black (and the text inverted to white, obviously). Anyone familiar with Chrome's Stylish extension wanna try making that? I would if I knew anything about CSS. I'm betting it'd be really easy.

 

[JPOBS]

How do I change my skin?

also, having to scroll past all the administrative forums and brawl forums is really annoying because it doesnt seem like you can close them anymore

edit: nvm. Neo Blue is soothing

 

[Purpletuce]

I think I'm going to go with Ruby. Blue looks old. . . Anyone else notice that titles change based on the style? All this change is so exciting.

Also, on FB the other day:

" People who think yoshi is low tier are noobs. Just sayin" -SW

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Yeah I agree, JPOBS, all about dat Neo Blue

I just wish I could still do alt+s to send my messages

 

[Bones0]

Alt+F4 does the trick.

 

[Internalyzed]

Zelda's attacks are really good except for her u-smash and f-smash sometimes just not working. She's also missing a grab.

So to improve her, all you really need to do is make her moves work all the time (u-smash and f-smash would be amazing if they weren't SDIable) and give her the opportunity to make combat about attack vs. attack interactions rather than Zelda whiff into dash dance grab interactions. Which basically means movement buff and / or a quality sex kick.

Hits that deal 1% or less aren't SDIable in v 1.0. If anyone from the SD Remix team is reading this, it'd be a cool change to implement (though from what I hear, the low tiers are OP already).

 

[Ripple]

its already been implemented

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Zelda's attacks are really good except for her u-smash and f-smash sometimes just not working. She's also missing a grab.

So to improve her, all you really need to do is make her moves work all the time (u-smash and f-smash would be amazing if they weren't SDIable) and give her the opportunity to make combat about attack vs. attack interactions rather than Zelda whiff into dash dance grab interactions. Which basically means movement buff and / or a quality sex kick.

If her moves are really good, her other character traits must be incredibly flawed.

 

[MountainGoat]

How much better is Doc over Mario?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

2.5 cactuars better

 

[Redact]

2.5 cactuars better

That is a very accurate figure IMO

Is there some secret backroomer chart that has instead of matchup comparison, its a cactuar comparison?

How much money do I need to drop to get access to this?

 

[Bones0]

Cactiers .