Meta Knight Officially Banned!

[Overswarm]

However random is not and not mentioned in the ruleset which will lead to TOs interpreting it differently.

You should be playing mafia.

 

[Bizkit047]

It usually rarely occurs because
1. Most people who place high use characters who don't need secondaries.
2. Most people who are good with that character won't be losing to someones secondary.

Ally, Anti, Atomsk, Esam, Vinnie, the list just goes on man, what were you thinking with that post?

 

[Vinylic.]

Finally without MK to hold him back, Ganon can show his true potential. Watch out tierlist, he's comin for ya.

This is what happens when people get way obsessed into triforcerianism.

Wait for the tier. It will make all of us crey.

 

[BSP]

UNITY OR DEATH

JOIN OR DIE

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Not really, it's still optional

 

[Ussi]

It usually rarely occurs because
1. Most people who place high use characters who don't need secondaries.
2. Most people who are good with that character won't be losing to someones secondary.

1. Ally
2. People lose to Ally's Wario/IC/whatever

 

[BluePeachy100]

Unity ruleset is horrible.

 

[Xyro77]

MK is "banned" in all those scenarios I presented. He's more "banned" in the one where you can't pick random at all than he is in the way you said it would be handled, which demonstrates why the word "banned" is not cutting it here.

mk being banned means hes not permitted to be used.....period. you cannot slip/slide your way around it. mk banned means mk is banned. i would say it in another language but since u dont get in in ENGLISH i doubt it would do any good.

 

[Chuee]

1. wrong.
2. wrong.


next?

We banned MK because he constantly occupied top 8 spots at nationals.
You say diddy won't do the same because he can be character CPed.
Please tell me you don't think that any diddy player who is good enough to place top 8 at a national is going to lose to someones secondary (not just snake).

 

[BluePeachy100]

So if I decided to main random and I got MK on the random I lose a match?

 

[Hyper]

You're bad. End of story.

I am the best. c:

dat trollin bro

you seem familiar, it's been a long time.
who are you?

 

[Yung Mei]

You all ****ing suck at this game, Alpha Zealot is a ****** with such a *****ty ruleset. WC is smart they don't use that garbage. MK being banned is dumb, you guys lack the ability to learn a matchup after 3 years. All of you should just quit this ****ing game, and it's not like the people who constantly place 17th are gonna get any higher because MK is banned. Regardless of MK, you suck at this game, and you getting spoonfed a character ban isn't gonna make you any better. I am horridly disappointed in this terrible community, no wonder all of the Melee people laugh at you because you all ****ing suck, and are stupid, you play a game babied down from Melee, but what do you want? Even MORE babying. Grow up, how can this game be considered competetive but the best character is getting banned. How is any other fighting community gonna take us seriously when we can't even win a MU. Only like 2 MKs were winning ***** anyway, you guys all suck and won't get any better.

On another note, I am an MK main, I am not just upset about MK being banned. Regardless of MK being banned or not, I would NEVER use the unity ruleset, I think it is horrible, and unfair to many MANY characters, and people who support this just suck Alpha Zealot's d!ck. It has been said, and see in results ADHD himself has gotten lazy and banked on MK being banned, and now he can rest easy knowing that he can laze his *** off with easy MUs, because he got ****ing tired of applying himself in an MU. Gnes is better, get over it, you suck Wyatt. Back to AZ. You are a complete ******, and no one in their right mind should take you seriously. No one who is smart, or has a mind of their own would follow you, or your garbage ruleset and rulings. You are bad at brawl, and a bad BBR member. Leave this community, you are tainting it.

To the people who were smart enough to learn the MU, kudos, you took time in to hold an accomplishment dear. Too bad it's all for naught because of the gay people who are lazy and don't put forth the effort of learning a MU. It's not like people put a gun to your head and told you to pick MK. But whatever. If you guys wanna be babies, go ahead. Enjoy your gay *** D3 infinites, and IC CGs.

I'm done with this horrible game. gl;hf I give this community 3 weeks after the MK ban. tata!

>post a whole rant
>not upset
laughinggirls.jpeg

 

[Ussi]

We banned MK because he constantly occupied top 8 spots at nationals.
You say diddy won't do the same because he can be character CPed.
Please tell me you don't think that any diddy player who is good enough to place top 8 at a national is going to lose to someones secondary (not just snake).

Atomsk and Ally say hi

 

[Sinji]

Doubt it, his wario is amazing

He uses multiple characters.

 

[BluePeachy100]

>post a whole rant
>not upset
laughinggirls.jpeg

You obviously didn't see me when the Unity Ruleset came out.

 

[Yunior597]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[da K.I.D.]

I doesn't afraid of you, Kyle, let's go.

That was over a year ago, it's invalid to my skill now. Well now, I didn't know you were pro-ban. Meh, I figured you actually beat MKs, ane Neil just gets lucky vs you a lot. I've witnessed it. However. I'll gladly accept a challenge toward you, full force. Also, if I recall correctly, it was mainly your Falco giving me the business, and our matches Sonic vs MK were fairly even. u.u

I do beat mks, but that doesnt mean anything. the amount that people have to out play mk to win in itself shows that the character is far too good to be legal.

Oh well, lemme put time into other characters again after YOU, K.I.D.Goggles were the one who told me I shuold go all MK in the firts place because I played too many characters.

I told you to do that because im not stupid. if somebody comes to me and they say, I want to get better, whats the first thing i should do to be better at the game, Im going to say 'pick the best character' thats a no brainer. even then I wanted him banned but if hes not, then theres essentially no reason to not main him. And just like I told everybody else. If I wasnt god awful at the ditto matchup. I would have been maining mk since like 09.

Also, cosigning KID's posts. I think he's doing pretty well in this thread. (And I was the first one to bring up getting MK from random, btw.)

the random box should be more powerful than anything else.

I want random to be able to play MK. The random box isn't remotely overpowered, overcentralizing, etc. It's the box between Kirby and Dedede that creates problems.

If you're going to make him illegal on random, it needs to at least be explicit in the rules. Rerolling the random requires some interpretation on the part of the reader.

speaking from a 'good for the community' side here, who here can tell me that seeing a late bracket tourney match where a dude goes random in the hopes of pulling mk in the last game of the set wouldnt be the hype-est thing youve ever seen?

 

[Chuee]

1. Ally
2. People lose to Ally's Wario/IC/whatever

I'd consider Ally more of co-maining than a secondary.

 

[_Yes!_]

INFRACT ME CHIBOSEMPAI

sadlf

 

[Alien Vision]

Finally without MK to hold him back, Ganon can show his true potential. Watch out tierlist, he's comin for ya.

I'm curious if Ganon will somewhat be a bit more viable. It's really hard to theorycraft with a groundless priority though. :/

 

[Sinji]

Follow the unity rules

 

[Nysyarc]

However random is not and not mentioned in the ruleset which will lead to TOs interpreting it differently.

Once the match starts, however, if you were assigned Meta Knight, you are now Meta Knight, which is not legal under the ruleset. That's what Xyro is saying. Picking random doesn't mean you're only an ethereal shady version of whatever character you end up as, you are that character.

I can see where you're coming from but it really just seems like your fishing as hard as you can for the tiniest loophole. When it comes down to it, the character Meta Knight is banned, whether selected through random or directly from the character select screen.

 

[popsofctown]

mk being banned means hes not permitted to be used.....period. you cannot slip/slide your way around it. mk banned means mk is banned. i would say it in another language but since u dont get in in ENGLISH i doubt it would do any good.

He's not used in any of the scenarios I was talking about.

Quit arguing past me and then go complaining to me about english comprehension.

Once the match starts, however, if you were assigned Meta Knight, you are now Meta Knight, which is not legal under the ruleset. That's what Xyro is saying. Picking random doesn't mean you're only an ethereal shady version of whatever character you end up as, you are that character.

I can see where you're coming from but it really just seems like your fishing as hard as you can for the tiniest loophole. When it comes down to it, the character Meta Knight is banned, whether selected through random or directly from the character select screen.

Is it a game loss or do you start over? You can't answer that, so the ruleset needs a fix.

 

[Mekos]

Yea they should have just got rid of certain stages.

But I like how none of the committee members respond to Nairo's comment about ADHD.
He only loses to ANTI and M2k and was complaining the loudest. He ***** mostly all other mk's with his sexy diddy! lol.

 

[Xyro77]

We banned MK because he constantly occupied top 8 spots at nationals.
You say diddy won't do the same because he can be character CPed.
Please tell me you don't think that any diddy player who is good enough to place top 8 at a national is going to lose to someones secondary (not just snake).

we did not ban mk cause he was always in top 8.
and ally wario has beat gnes(top 2 diddy) and adhd(top 2 diddy) and countless of others. ally is not the only example, reread bizkits post above

So if I decided to main random and I got MK on the random I lose a match?

no. u would be asked to pick another character. please use common sense.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

You should be playing mafia.

Am I in a game with you that's not in night phase?

EDIT: Hell, I'm no longer in ANY game in day phase.

 

[CT Chia]

Yea they should have just got rid of certain stages.

But I like how none of the committee members respond to Nairo's comment about ADHD.
He only loses to ANTI and M2k and was complaining the loudest. He ***** mostly all other mk's with his sexy diddy! lol.

He speaks the loudest but by far the most intelligently. It's far from an issue.

 

[Xyro77]

He's not used in any of the scenarios I was talking about.

Quit arguing past me and then go complaining to me about english comprehension.

you are trying to find a loop hole that does not exist.

mk is banned. period

 

[BluePeachy100]

I do beat mks, but that doesnt mean anything. the amount that people have to out play mk to win in itself shows that the character is far too good to be legal.


I told you to do that because im not stupid. if somebody comes to me and they say, I want to get better, whats the first thing i should do to be better at the game, Im going to say 'pick the best character' thats a no brainer. even then I wanted him banned but if hes not, then theres essentially no reason to not main him. And just like I told everybody else. If I wasnt god awful at the ditto matchup. I would have been maining mk since like 09.

the random box should be more powerful than anything else.


speaking from a 'good for the community' side here, who here can tell me that seeing a late bracket tourney match where a dude goes random in the hopes of pulling mk in the last game of the set wouldnt be the hype-est thing youve ever seen?

You fsmashed me out of nado.

 

[Nysyarc]

I'm curious if Ganon will somewhat be a bit more viable. It's really hard to theorycraft with a groundless priority though. :/

The problem with Ganon is that he still has many other hard counters, some even worse than Meta Knight. It is debatable whether he even has one match-up in his favor. Thus I don't personally think he'll be going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[Bizkit047]

I'm curious if Ganon will somewhat be a bit more viable. It's really hard to theorycraft with a groundless priority though. :/

No, Ganon still will be the worst character.

 

[_Yes!_]

HYPER CRIMAS FORCE

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[zmx]

Blue is obviously just trolling now. How do you guys not see this?

 

[Vinylic.]

This is the first thread to have derailed posts count as on-topic. Are you enjoying this mods?

The biggest flaming I've seen? Hell yeah, you really are.

 

[DeLux]

Yea they should have just got rid of certain stages.

But I like how none of the committee members respond to Nairo's comment about ADHD.
He only loses to ANTI and M2k and was complaining the loudest. He ***** mostly all other mk's with his sexy diddy! lol.

Or you know, we do policy implementation based on contention supported values rather than anecdotal evidence and outliers.

I thought that was pretty obvious.

 

[Dr. Tuen]

-Data, charts, and various findings made by the community (such as the charts John#s made, the statistical approach to MK (I think Tuen made it? sorry if I'm mistaken), anything like that)

Yep, that's me doing the statistics. I would have had a a more definitive analysis complete, but I had to start over in terms of data mining, so I didn't make it in time. I'll finish the analysis anyways though, since that's how I do things :-p. Besides, it'll make a good baseline for the post MK ban analysis.

Looks like my "Project Zero" will come in handy in more ways than one!

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

Metaknight da bess.....wait.

 

[DeLux]

Tuen, do you have skype?

I'd like to talk to you about some of the choices you made in your statistical analyses at some point.

 

[Sinji]

I see that ADHD gets frustrated when m2k ledge camps.

 

[Overswarm]

Am I in a game with you that's not in night phase?

EDIT: Hell, I'm no longer in ANY game in day phase.

But you never postttttt

 

[Ripple]

This is the first thread to have derailed posts count as on-topic. Are you enjoying this mods?

The biggest flaming I've seen? Hell yeah, you really are.

yeah, kinda disappointed that bluezelda isn't banned yet.