Meta Knight Officially Banned!

[Mota]

Stockzzz....must have stockkzz ._.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

These stupid bats in this topic are messing up my scroll bar somehow. They keep erasing the one on the bottom/make the bar it self go back and forth randomly when they aren't bumping into it.

Kinda annoying.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

These stupid bats in this topic are messing up my scroll bar somehow. They keep erasing the one on the bottom/make the bar it self go back and forth randomly when they aren't bumping into it.

Kinda annoying.

Solution: don't use the scroll bar.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

There isn't normally one on this page in the first place. Somehow the stupid bats are making the horizontal scroll bar appear and act funny.

 

[WindMajor]

Metaknight breaks Brawl, MetaVamp breaks SWF. Oh the irony!

I could totally ban MetaVamp right now if I felt like it, but he's causing sooooo much delicious pain and misery to others.....

 

[SupaSairentoZ7℠]

If you did we wouldn't have more minions around here. XD

 

[hotgarbage]

Oh god this is hilarious

 

[John12346]

I wouldn't mind being a minion for a bit

Black name ftw

Also you can use the MKs hovering around your mouse to scroll down indefinitely.

 

[Zwarm]

Not being able to see people's usernames on Revolution skin without highlighting is pretty cool... I guess.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

@John#: It doesn't work terribly well. I personally find them slightly annoying. (graphical glitches)

Also, I finally got an SD Memory Card again. Time to try some hacks.

 

[FEFIZ]

We need a new tier list without MK! Who will be the first? Marth or Diddy Kong?

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Or Ice Climbers, or Olimar.

 

[C.J.]

IC, Diddy, Olimar/Marth/Snake, Pika/Falco imo

 

[Ghostbone]

Or

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Snake gets countered by too many characters.

 

[C.J.]

I wouldn't say countered... He does lose to a lot though.

 

[Ghostbone]

Snake gets countered by too many characters.

And that's why he wins the most money obviously
/wait what.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

And that's why he wins the most money obviously
/wait what.

You believe Fox is the best in Melee, right?

How many majors does he win?

 

[da K.I.D.]

1. thats a different game and a different situation entirely.
2. the best character in melee is still up in the air for a lot of people.

although there really isnt any logical reason to believe that snake isnt second best in the game.

also, i would say recent happenings back my claim of ike and tink gaining the most from the MK ban.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

2. the best character in melee is still up in the air for a lot of people.

You could say the same thing for Brawl after this ban, KID.

Smooth Criminal

 

[da K.I.D.]

I agree completely and thats the best part about it.

 

[Spelt]

2. the best character in melee is still up in the air for a lot of people.

And people call the brawl community a mess.


I feel like I made a bad choice going with that reply. It doesn't seem condescending enough.
I should've compared the fox mains who think jigglypuff is #1 to the MK mains who are constantly creating insane explanations to how meta knight isn't broken.

Or I could've just laughed at the intelligence of the melee community in general.
So many options, so little time.

 

[Zajice]

I realized I only click this thread when I see the last poster is somebody who says funny things.

 

[Sunnysunny]

^
I love a good trolling in this thread. =w= Spelt always satisfies~! <3

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I don't agree with KID or anything. Fox/Falco are the best characters in Melee. No contest there. I just think that the "best" character in Brawl is still up in the air. Without MK, there are going to be a lot of characters jockeying for position. Tiers will be shifting quite a bit. There's empirical evidence supporting the likes of Snake and Diddy being up there above everyone else, but it isn't anything really conclusive. It's going to take a lot more than few piddly weeklies/bi-weeklies without MK to get a real bearing on anything. You might see variety now, but given time, that could change.

MK just got freaking bannned, for Christ's sake. It's cool to speculate, but you can't say for sure who the absolute best is right now. Give the game a chance to evolve without MK.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Spelt]

The best depends on how many inane rules we decide to keep putting in our rulesets. Now we just need to ban chaingrabs and falco has that surefire run towards the top.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

The best depends on how many inane rules we decide to keep putting in our rulesets. Now we just need to ban chaingrabs and falco has that surefire run towards the top.

._________.

Hey. You said it. Not me.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Spelt]

You're right, that would never work.

I say we limit the amount of double jumps allowed to 2.
Jigglypuff's too floaty imo.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

...

I don't like the fact that ICs desync.

Can we ban that, too?

Smooth Criminal

 

[da K.I.D.]

for the record, when I said snake was clearly second best in the game, that was when mk was legal. mk banned, I have no idea, im just going to sit back and enjoy that nice healthy metagame development that we all get to have.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I'm looking forward to people crying "overcentralization" when a certain character (or characters) start jacking all of their money.

Or is John Numbers and company not going to make the same mistake twice...?

Smooth Criminal

 

[Doc King]

At this rate, there is no overcentralization. Falco has almost as much tourney paper as Snake does. So no one should complain. Also an Olimar won a mk banned tounament.

The metagame seems to be doing well without mk.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

At this rate, there is no overcentralization. Falco has almost as much tourney paper as Snake does. So no one should complain. Also an Olimar won a mk banned tounament.

The metagame seems to be doing well without mk.

Ahem.

It's going to take a lot more than few piddly weeklies/bi-weeklies without MK to get a real bearing on anything. You might see variety now, but given time, that could change.

Smooth Criminal

 

[da K.I.D.]

i think, that no matter how centralised the game gets, without mk you are never going to see 1 character playing out dittos in losers, winners and grand finals for singles AND doubles the way it was with MK.

 

[Doc King]

Ahem.



Smooth Criminal

I meant so far. Things could change like in all competitive games.

i think, that no matter how centralised the game gets, without mk you are never going to see 1 character playing out dittos in losers, winners and grand finals for singles AND doubles the way it was with MK.

It's probably not gonna become something like that.

 

[Govikings07]

What i like is that now every character in brawl has a bad mu. Top teirs have theirs by mids and some lows. Mids have theirs by tops and some lows and lows have theirs with tops and mids. Ics are a bad mu against something as low as lucas! To me it seems now its all about who the player knows how to play with rather than just having a pocket mk to solve their problems. the stage striking is now more to think about as well as the counter stages! the live mk banned tournies i watch on streams have more of a variety on who they use and i love watching the matches <3 like a zss against a rob! (my opinion) im really excited to see how crazy the metagame will change! Rob for #1

 

[John12346]

I would figure Concentrate 2 to count as a regional, considering the 56-something player turnout...

But yeah, I'm definitely going to need a lot more tournaments before I can start jumping to conclusions. At least 100, to be sure, but I might wait until I get all the way to 150, or maybe even 200 first.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I would figure Concentrate 2 to count as a regional, considering the 56-something player turnout...

But yeah, I'm definitely going to need a lot more tournaments before I can start jumping to conclusions. At least 100, to be sure, but I might wait until I get all the way to 150, or maybe even 200 first.

Why don't you compile data for the span of a year, John?

Not trolling you here, I'm just wondering why you're so bent on a fixed number in such a (comparatively) short amount of time versus a longer stretch.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Conviction]

He was just stating the fixed number before anyone decides to start trying to make conclusive statements.

I remember him stating he'll do it for the whole year.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

He was just stating the fixed number before anyone decides to start trying to make conclusive statements.

I remember him stating he'll do it for the whole year.

Ah, okay. Thanks for clearing that up.

Ignore me then.

Smooth Criminal