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Dark Hart

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Cosmo! Make the Zelda thread, I'll make KOASTAR make the Zelda vs Mewtwo thread.

On that note, maybe we should have different threads for different match-ups. Focusing all the effort of one thread to a single match-up may be what we need to sort everything out.

I wonder if the backroom does that...
 

TheManaLord

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No it's not like that. I've seen screens of it like a few months ago

it sucks there wasn't alot going on at all. No tier lis discussion or anything
 

t3h Icy

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DK = Doc
Doc = Jigglypuff
Doc = Zelda

DK > Luigi
Link > Samus
Samus > Mario
 

JPOBS

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man the further we go down this list, its like every ****ing middle tier has even matchups with the top 7 now wtf is this
 

Roneblaster

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man the further we go down this list, its like every ****ing middle tier has even matchups with the top 7 now wtf is this
imo people should be making their characters look bad, so when they win matches its more impressive.

atleast thats my strat im currently running
 

HugS™

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Brandon, I beat you barely and got 3-0d by dajuan because dajuan is much better than you. Don't be lame and try to act like I was playing legit. You fools in norcal are lame sometimes, especially when so-cal goes up and wins in norcal everytime. The one time we don't win, u gotta figure something is wrong cuz you KNOW y'all ain't better than us.

Its like when fools acted like mango was playing legit at rom2 after losing to Kage twice just cuz he won teams and beat other players.

Shroomed beat me with a handicap. Simple as that. If ur arguing that he'd beat me on another day that's fine. But quit acting like I was playing legit borrowing controllers
 

#HBC | Mac

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Brandon, I beat you barely and got 3-0d by dajuan because dajuan is much better than you. Don't be lame and try to act like I was playing legit. You fools in norcal are lame sometimes, especially when so-cal goes up and wins in norcal everytime. The one time we don't win, u gotta figure something is wrong cuz you KNOW y'all ain't better than us.

Its like when fools acted like mango was playing legit at rom2 after losing to Kage twice just cuz he won teams and beat other players.

Shroomed beat me with a handicap. Simple as that. If ur arguing that he'd beat me on another day that's fine. But quit acting like I was playing legit borrowing controllers
you john so much
 

N64

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I looked at the chart, and it has
Doc > Pikachu
Doc > Young Link
Mario >> Pikachu
Mario >> Young Link

Is there a reason for this? :freak:
I think mario is a worse matchup for pikachu than doc is. I don't know if it's enough for the difference, as I feel their both borderline between > and >> for pika, but yeah. No idea about YL though.
 

HomeMadeWaffles

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Brandon, I beat you barely and got 3-0d by dajuan because dajuan is much better than you. Don't be lame and try to act like I was playing legit. You fools in norcal are lame sometimes, especially when so-cal goes up and wins in norcal everytime. The one time we don't win, u gotta figure something is wrong cuz you KNOW y'all ain't better than us.

Its like when fools acted like mango was playing legit at rom2 after losing to Kage twice just cuz he won teams and beat other players.

Shroomed beat me with a handicap. Simple as that. If ur arguing that he'd beat me on another day that's fine. But quit acting like I was playing legit borrowing controllers
idk man

you just sound bitter cuz dajuan got off LOL

i mean you still got top 5 bruh outta like 80 people, so the controller couldnt have been that bad

and saying socal is better, and dajuan is better those are whole other situations that could always be argued if it wanted to be, whenever etc

whats fact is that you got whooped

ill take your word for it tho, cuz me being a **** on an internet forum feels awkward, plus your the homie so ima stfu...

<3 hugo

and doc/puff is one of those matchups where if puff doesnt know she loses, but if she does she wins, alot of puffs struggle with it tho
 

Shroomed

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Brandon, I beat you barely and got 3-0d by dajuan because dajuan is much better than you. Don't be lame and try to act like I was playing legit. You fools in norcal are lame sometimes, especially when so-cal goes up and wins in norcal everytime. The one time we don't win, u gotta figure something is wrong cuz you KNOW y'all ain't better than us.

Its like when fools acted like mango was playing legit at rom2 after losing to Kage twice just cuz he won teams and beat other players.

Shroomed beat me with a handicap. Simple as that. If ur arguing that he'd beat me on another day that's fine. But quit acting like I was playing legit borrowing controllers
when i beat you again, you can look back at this post hugo :chuckle:
 

unknown522

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oh ****, it's on now.

Also, I gotta get in on this doc vs hugs stuff. Apex man.

Also, the matchup is even IMO. It's a really slow, boring matchup when played right on both sides, but I think it's even.

maybe 55-45 for samus. The problem is, that the best samus I've played were watty and spaceballs and not for a long amount of time either.
 

HugS™

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when i beat you again, you can look back at this post hugo :chuckle:
I'll be hitting up norcal on either the June 11th weekend or the June 25th weekend just to take care of business.

And my Bad brandon, you're right. But I woulda gone off more if it wasn't you, cuz I do like you.

Macman, off course I john. I don't deny it.

I'm a proud person, what do you expect me to do when people bring up some nearly 3 month old ****? You expect me to sit back and not say a word? I always got a reason, I always got an excuse, that's what makes me motivated, that's what keeps me coming back, that's why I win.

If I just sat back and accepted a loss without considering factors that could have caused that loss, I wouldn't come back a winner.

Now I'm gonna go up to norcal to handle business, because I had a john, and I want redemption on SS and Shroomed.
That's why I'm going to Apex, to handle business, because I want redemption on OOS tournaments.


The only times I accept a loss is when I play my best. SS beat me at Nice Shot Hugo when I was playing my best. SO I sat back and analyzed what I did wrong, and I improved my falcon game because of it. If anyone brings up me vs SS @ NSH, I wouldn't say a word. He beat me legit.

Bring up me vs Shroomed, i'm gonna say something. Like you think I'm THAT easy Dajuan? You think you're supposed to 3-0 me clean and easy like that after you lost to phil 2nd round and had a last hit match with IHSB @ Pound4? (No offense phil and IHSB :) just making a point). Don't be ignorant dude.

But yeah, I john sick. I know this. But i think johnning is only a bad thing when it's coming from players who never win. I win, so i'm gonna john. deal with it.

M2k got ***** cuz he has been playing brawl. Alright sick, practice melee and **** next time bro.

Mango got ***** cuz he drank the night before a tournament. Dope, stop drinking and win it next time.

Player X got ***** cuz his girlfriend broke up with him? Stfu, you never won anyways.

I love hearing johns from players that can win, it means they still care. And I still ****ing care.
 

HugS™

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Oh AND Shroomed got whooped on @ Pound 4 by my Samus.

What was it... I kicked you off the rotation like 6 times in a row?

Oh wait, were those just friendlies?...
Yeah, they were just friendlies...

But no johns dude, you got whooped on. You lost, I won, I guess nothing else matters.
 

unknown522

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alright hugs, chill. You've already gotten your message out. Don't make things worse. Just beat him next time if need be. You know that you were playing bad and that's all that should matter to you. Even if your opponent knows that you were playing bad, they won't care unless they are a good friend of yours (most of the time). Trust me, I've gone through that **** time and time again as well.

I'm aiming for the same thing at Apex. Tear **** up, and redeem myself from other US tourneys.
 

HomeMadeWaffles

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Oh AND Shroomed got whooped on @ Pound 4 by my Samus.

What was it... I kicked you off the rotation like 6 times in a row?

Oh wait, were those just friendlies?...
Yeah, they were just friendlies...

But no johns dude, you got whooped on. You lost, I won, I guess nothing else matters.
hahaha yea hugo i feel what ur saying tho

especially since its dajuan, cuz he stays talkin **** hahaha

dajuan is mad good yo (cept against the east bay)

u r to hugo

as for johning, i do agree in terms of it shows that people care, which is legit, cuz it shows that competiveness

what i hate about johns tho is its diva stuff to me, it just feels like a fat insecurity is all...

but we ALL do it or have done it a bunch of times

and hugo theres a tournament this saturday june 6 in san jose, you should hit that up if you can and beat dajuan, u got this!

*back to regular schedule progamming*

who do you guys think is doc's best high tier matchup?

i think its falco
 

NJzFinest

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I'm winning Apex with DK..

... soooo
who do you guys think is doc's best high tier matchup?

i think its falco
They were saying Falco is his worst heh


Also, imo, Doc = Link, and > YLink. Mario < Link and = YLink. Get that >> **** outta here.
 

Fly_Amanita

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Eh, I can understand the rationale behind johning over losses, but I'd rather not make my opponent feel like I'm trying to discredit his victory. I'd prefer to quietly figure out what I could have done better and let the results speak for themselves next time.
 

giuocob

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Yeah HugS, I understand that you're a proud person and are trying to win, but you're coming off as a bit of a jerk. You're basically telling shroomed that he didn't deserve to beat you, ie he's not good enough for you to even consider the possibility of losing to him legitimately. Fact is, when someone beats you, it means you were outplayed. Doesn't matter if it's because you were using a borrowed controller, doesn't matter if it's because your hair's on fire, you were still outplayed. It obviously doesn't mean he's better than you (I guarantee he's not going to claim that), but still. I mean, competitiveness is fine, analyzing your losses to get better is fine, but being a sore loser isn't.
 
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