Marth Metagame Thread

[Albert.]

HEY GUYS I got a featured blog on AIB About MLG!!!

go check it out, it's on the front page.

 

[Megavitamins]

This is the metagame thread, silly boy. *ponts to MGD*

 

[Shaya]

Junk or myself are all thats needed in directing conversation elsewhere, Minty.

 

[Shaya]

Wheres the updated bracket stuff for MLG btw?

I was talking to Mike, he says he has to play biglou next, and then if he wins, Atomsk.
(Hes currently 4th round of winners).

However shop is closing up, so those matches are going to be played tomorrow morning (Americaaaaaa time).

 

[Reizilla]

http://www.mlgpro.com/brackets/10/procircuit/orlando/smash/champ.php

Probably some of the worst seeded brackets ever. If only MLG was into pools

of note: Dojo and Razer aren't really there.

Oh, and round 4 of winners bracket won't be played until 4pm, EST ^_^

http://www.mlgpro.com/pro-circuit/2010/?url=orlando/super-smash-bros-brawl-1v1/schedule

 

[phi1ny3]

Yes you need to stutterstep the fsmash on snake after fthrow.

 

[etecoon]

Probably some of the worst seeded brackets ever. If only MLG was into pools

yes, although it's hard to tell because apparently half the people there were forced to use different names lol

 

[Remzi]

Chaz (FL Marth) is tearing it up right now. He took out Neo, Ajax, and Malcolm in losers so far. Anyone heard of this guy before? I'm interested in seeing some of his vids and placements now.

 

[Blacknight99923]

I looked up vids and found a medicore MK or somthing from 2008, unless i am just looking incorrectly he doesn't have much advertisement wise

 

[etecoon]

only vids of him I've seen are these that were submitted to the snake video thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qeky6WxqcXQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrn2hcZw8u4

and yeah florida doesn't hype him very much for how apparently good he is lol

 

[Player-3]

Look up chad v reflex

 

[Blacknight99923]

He looks good but not like mikehaze tier, then again this was 6 months ago



ALso i would like to add i think marth mains are starting to underestimate the use of U throw, varying on character but it seems at percents 50 and up it allows for safer follow ups due to u air having more range and sets up for more practical juggles. Obviously we will have to read airdodges but as fair as I know our u air beats our outranges just about every dair., even if an oppenent manages to dodge follow up it doesnt usually put marth in any bad zones.


Is there any reason we don't use U throw to start a follow up?

 

[Shaya]

Chaz beat Pierce at genesis.
Hes definitely very good and pretty smart player from when Ive had some tidbit opportunities to chat to him. He knows a lot about different things Marth can do, so yeah.
he seems to be really good at the marth ditto too.

 

[Blacknight99923]

I can't wait for these vids

 

[Megavitamins]

He looks good but not like mikehaze tier, then again this was 6 months ago



ALso i would like to add i think marth mains are starting to underestimate the use of U throw, varying on character but it seems at percents 50 and up it allows for safer follow ups due to u air having more range and sets up for more practical juggles. Obviously we will have to read airdodges but as fair as I know our u air beats our outranges just about every dair., even if an oppenent manages to dodge follow up it doesnt usually put marth in any bad zones.


Is there any reason we don't use U throw to start a follow up?

Uair has ALOT of lag after the hitbox ends.... unless you do it by the ground it's not good for juggling imo

 

[Albert.]

Chaz has done some cool falling UAir>grab tricks...UAirforces the shield and then you grab... let me find the video/time

 

[Megavitamins]

Or... in theory, you could time the uair so that when they air dodge it you could down-tilt -> side-b them lol

 

[Reizilla]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuTvmX75qKg&playnext_from=TL&videos=cBzdrKJC2nA&feature=sub

Broly, the second best Marth in Texas... Anybody else find the Wolf match-up particularly hard to deal with. It was for me, at first, but I have it somewhat down now, since my brother mains him.

There are plenty of better vids out there of him, by the way. Just thought it might spark some discussion of some sort ^_^

 

[∫unk]

Good job Mike for playing Marth to top 10 at MLG

 

[Blacknight99923]

do you think if he knew luigi match up he would have placed better?

 

[∫unk]

Maybe, but you never discredit the opponent.

BigLou was amazing. Mike can do better next time.

 

[Shaya]

Mike said he was fine with losing and he got outplayed. It gives him an obvious area to work on, which is great for just about anyone who plays this game competitively.

Lou did really well. Mad props to him taking out some of the best users of luigis hardest match ups in the world
Its a shame how counterproductive (for all ) the lack of video coverage at MLG is.

 

[Blacknight99923]

Maybe, but you never discredit the opponent.

BigLou was amazing. Mike can do better next time.

its mikes fault if he doesn't know a match up, hence regardless Biglou did better.

that and mike had 2 sets biglou clearly did better

 

[∫unk]

No, if you just immediately say "well I didn't know the matchup" it sounds like an excuse.

The way and order you say things is important.

 

[Blacknight99923]

your absoutly right

 

[phi1ny3]

Biglou is legit.

I'm sad people like him aren't so well-known.

Man, NW needs more Snakes, Felix lost twice to that MU (and it is a pretty hard one for Diddy).

 

[Player-3]

yeah supposedly snake is his hardest matchup if the snake knows it since snake lives so long and can deal with nanas decently

 

[Blacknight99923]

and he has the rocket sexy kick which will eject diddy off stage when he trips diddy. but this is marth metagame thread so lets stay on topic

 

[Megavitamins]

I lost to Boss's luigi before, and I know the match up really well... I wanna play BigLou now.

 

[Albert.]

BigLou is obviously a good player because he actually beat MEEE at Winterfest.

Mhm.

 

[Blacknight99923]

and you are?

 

[Megavitamins]

Blackniight you have to be good to **** talk.

 

[Mr-R]

Blackniight you have to be good to **** talk.

dude u play ninjalink all the time right.
give me advice against diddyyyyyyyyy pleaaaaaase.

 

[Megavitamins]

Lol I wish I was good vs Diddy

I'm awful at it... NL lives in brooklyn, which is far from me.

 

[Mr-R]

meh Im awful at it as well, for some weird reason I get grabbed alot when playing against diddy

 

[DEHF]

Learn how to instant throw

 

[Blacknight99923]

larry you should use marth in tournaments more, I heard your marth was absolute ****

 

[Megavitamins]

Learn how to instant throw

?? Care to explain ?

 

[DEHF]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-45H9QTOPZg

 

[Mr-R]

so u mean like insta throwing when hes throwing a nana towards u, or when a nana/item is on the ground ( like the ones u linked )
and even then his fair utterly annoys me