Marth Metagame Thread

[Albert.]

can opponents roll/sd through a db every time they block it? it's seriously annoying that they can roll behind me in between db hits (basically making it so i can't shield pressure with it)

The only characters that have been able to consistently do this to me are all in the top 4


Hmmmm

Edit:

Yo, **** diddy.

**** HIM.

He'd still be like high-mid WITHOUT HIS GIMMICK because his general basic stats are really good LOL fuhhhh

Edit #2

Yeah I know im late.

 

[Player-3]

Inventor = person that made the world see how sexy something is, hence, Shayain, Hazewalking.

does that mean platform cancelling should be re-named Ramin-Cancelling

 

[Orion*]

i don't really recall Mr R "developing" that at all.

A lot of Marth gimmicks have been known for ages, Mr R is just well known for getting away with gimmicks

before marth can b reverse shield breaker on the ground though requires him to be dashing for 17 frames or whatever first... a lot of time.

the difference between your "gimmicks"and his **** is that he actually makes a read

training/conditioning -> habits -> delayed reaction because i expect something else = setup =/= gimmick

 

[Albert.]

Orion with THE FACTS.


I skyped orion last night :DDD

 

[etecoon]

orion with the real talk

I'd consider a lot of "gimmicks" to be akin to pitching in baseball, an MLB hitter may be able to hit a 95mph fastball out of the park consistently if he knows it's coming but you still see pitches as slow as 75mph getting past them, your reaction works hand in hand with your prediction, condition someone to expect one thing and it can open holes to use your less practical options later on

"gimmicks" can be legit if you have the more solid options(fastball) to back them up, from marth I wouldn't really call it gimmickry, gimmick is like...luigi, a character that ONLY has that oddball **** that shouldn't work but frequently will because not many good people play luigi so most of us don't know the MU so well

 

[Blacknight99923]

orion with the real talk

I'd consider a lot of "gimmicks" to be akin to pitching in baseball, an MLG hitter may be able to hit a 95mph fastball out of the park consistently if he knows it's coming but you still see pitches as slow as 75mph getting past them, your reaction works hand in hand with your prediction, condition someone to expect one thing and it can open holes to use your less practical options later on

"gimmicks" can be legit if you have the more solid options(fastball) to back them up, from marth I wouldn't really call it gimmickry, gimmick is like...luigi, a character that ONLY has that oddball **** that shouldn't work but frequently will because not many good people play luigi so most of us don't know the MU so well

dude MLG is not Major league baseball

 

[etecoon]

it's called an analogy

 

[C.J.]

............
You said MLG hitter. MLG doesn't have hitters. MLB does.
^^^his point

 

[etecoon]

wow I really need to start sleeping for more than two hours at a time ._. FML lately

 

[Albert.]

LOL "It's called an analogy you f**king *******"

Is what etecoon was thinking

 

[Jorgeme]

I was bored and actually read this whole thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vruQ9WH4sjk
OS does some 0:27-0:30 and the last one is obviously the best example. The only thing I see this as being is initial dash and then a true pivot (phanna's tech) and buffer a turnaround from there to face forward and attack.

However, the only thing that needs to be affirmed is if MK is actually just initial dashing or running. With MK its hard to tell b/c he just glides, and his legs don't move like Marth (too bad he doesn't do one with Marth). One thing to note is that MK does slide a bit when he cancels his run. To me this suggests that OS has something aside from the aforementioned tech, because true pivot would stop all momentum. I hope that OS is truly on to something different, because I can do initial dash>true pivot and it is not something special, and also f-smash on MK is not possible out of grab release with it.

I think this is the nuritake step

It is easy to do nuritake step with Snake. Start with him and work to you normal character (unless you main Snake). Indigo is correct on how it is done. Simply dash and at the end of the animation turn and buffer a crouch. You can repeat it over and go forward or you can do it backwards to retreat. You can also do a true pivot for short distance. The exacution is the same except you turn at the beginning of the dash animation and do not crouch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSGUel12xYU

 

[PK-ow!]

Marf never needs to endure his Recovery Carry-Over Lag.


Just the sweet, sweet -4 safety of his falling FAir on block:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0BbOl_XQoc

After DSing to the ledge, DS cancel to an FAir.


Opshunz.

 

[_Kadaj_]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[ChaosDrifter]

that is really interesting! i'd love to see how some of the pros would use that practically in matches, it seems harder to master than IC's chaingrab haha

 

[zer0.]

Marf never needs to endure his Recovery Carry-Over Lag.


Just the sweet, sweet -4 safety of his falling FAir on block:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0BbOl_XQoc

After DSing to the ledge, DS cancel to an FAir.


Opshunz.

Light stepping DS consistently? Has anyone done it so far?