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Was his percent crazy high? I do these all the time; only time I can't reach them is when I'm stubborn and wanna walk them even in really high percents when I can go for a kill. Do you remember his percent , Deva?
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Someone sticky this post.First off, great matches. For not much experience as you say, you know the matchup pretty darn well, along with some pretty crazy momentum cancels on the first match. You werent even using bair lol, pretty insane. I gotta say, OS definately has the campiest MK I've ever seen lol. Also, I know you probably wont admit it, but I for one noticed a great reduction in tech skill. Coincidence? =P
3 tips:
1. I'm sorry, it's probably my fault Norfair is banned xD. It's ok, I've gotten used to it being banned by nearly everyone I play in tournament. For this situation, CP Halberd. It's the next best thing and in some cases even better than Norfair. I'd personally use this stage rather than Norfair against G&W and Marth for example. This stage makes it really easy to space with zair due to the indent in the middle, some parts of the stage have a lot of moving room so it's like FD with a nice lttle patform in the middle for maneuverability, and the platform is low enough to the ground so that bombs will still hit them from above.
2. Reatreating airdodge to zair helps A LOT in this matchup. Just retreating airdodge will keep you safe from most of MK's approaches since if he does apprach you can zair as you land, and if he's too far away still you can jab out of the airdodge or even the zair depending on the situation. OS didnt seem like he had a whole lot of experience in the matchup, sorta like DSF when I played him. But when an MK does learn the matchup the tend to freakin up b outa everything you do xD. There's an MK I've been playing recently that plays extremely campy and just dashes foreward in shield. If I do anything as he approaches, he just up-bs through it, and if I stay in shield or try to grab, he grabs me first xD. Just play campier than him and it tends to work out. You have projectiles after all xD. and bombsliding and reverse bombsliding work surprisingly well in this matchup. . . .yes. . . .I'm suggesting ATs >_>
3. For dealing with B moves. When your at relatively low %s and MK is at high %s, dont be afraid to dair out of his up-b. And when he gets you relatively high in the air, even if he cant get an up b off right away for a combo, dair anyways. It scares them a bit from up-bing you out of some combos, since more often than not, you can. There's only a few %s where they can get the combo off before you can dair, in wich case you should just air dodge. Against tornado, if he catches you when you've just pulled a bomb and you dont have time to throw it, invincibombing works great, and you can sometimes combo them out of it with a dash attack. Another trick is to run away and bair near the end of the move.
Other than that, great games. Glad to see your making more of an effort to attend tournaments.
So, what's the deal with Arkive and the cops =P.
I noticed it too xD.Also, I know you probably wont admit it, but I for one noticed a great reduction in tech skill. Coincidence? =P
OMG Deva just made my day. <3 DevaYou have projectiles after all xD. and bombsliding and reverse bombsliding work surprisingly well in this matchup. . . .yes. . . .I'm suggesting ATs >_>
^thisSo, what's the deal with Arkive and the cops =P.
Does this mean you have tap jump off now? Or are you using it with it on?You have projectiles after all xD. and bombsliding and reverse bombsliding work surprisingly well in this matchup. . . .yes. . . .I'm suggesting ATs >_>
gj, too bad Overswarm and to start playing MK to prove a point, I'd much rather lose to a ROB player. However, I think you did much better versus his MK... MK is probably an easier match up than ROB for Link.
Thanks, I like to space with the first hit of the fsmash but it's no good for spacing against a character like MK, if I whiff the first one than I might as well let the other one go because Ill get punished either way.Good stuff Legan......interesting matches to say the least.
One question though....is there a specific reason why you don't space with the single version of fsmash or is it just personal preference?
Well Like I said, I had beaten him in a money match the previous day on Norfair and believe it or not Distant Planet. After those matches he had a full understanding on what to do and what not to do so I never thought of a good cp if norfair got banned. I was asking Arkive and he didnt really know either lol. I wish I had Deva's number at the time.That bomb might have killed MK when he did his up throw on that last match if you only would have held on to it.
Out of curiosity why the Delfino CP?
1. Cool, I was gunna pm you about where else to go and that pretty much summed up everything I needed to know.First off, great matches. For not much experience as you say, you know the matchup pretty darn well, along with some pretty crazy momentum cancels on the first match. You werent even using bair lol, pretty insane. I gotta say, OS definately has the campiest MK I've ever seen lol. Also, I know you probably wont admit it, but I for one noticed a great reduction in tech skill. Coincidence? =P
3 tips:
1. I'm sorry, it's probably my fault Norfair is banned xD. It's ok, I've gotten used to it being banned by nearly everyone I play in tournament. For this situation, CP Halberd. It's the next best thing and in some cases even better than Norfair. I'd personally use this stage rather than Norfair against G&W and Marth for example. This stage makes it really easy to space with zair due to the indent in the middle, some parts of the stage have a lot of moving room so it's like FD with a nice lttle patform in the middle for maneuverability, and the platform is low enough to the ground so that bombs will still hit them from above.
2. Reatreating airdodge to zair helps A LOT in this matchup. Just retreating airdodge will keep you safe from most of MK's approaches since if he does apprach you can zair as you land, and if he's too far away still you can jab out of the airdodge or even the zair depending on the situation. OS didnt seem like he had a whole lot of experience in the matchup, sorta like DSF when I played him. But when an MK does learn the matchup the tend to freakin up b outa everything you do xD. There's an MK I've been playing recently that plays extremely campy and just dashes foreward in shield. If I do anything as he approaches, he just up-bs through it, and if I stay in shield or try to grab, he grabs me first xD. Just play campier than him and it tends to work out. You have projectiles after all xD. and bombsliding and reverse bombsliding work surprisingly well in this matchup. . . .yes. . . .I'm suggesting ATs >_>
3. For dealing with B moves. When your at relatively low %s and MK is at high %s, dont be afraid to dair out of his up-b. And when he gets you relatively high in the air, even if he cant get an up b off right away for a combo, dair anyways. It scares them a bit from up-bing you out of some combos, since more often than not, you can. There's only a few %s where they can get the combo off before you can dair, in wich case you should just air dodge. Against tornado, if he catches you when you've just pulled a bomb and you dont have time to throw it, invincibombing works great, and you can sometimes combo them out of it with a dash attack. Another trick is to run away and bair near the end of the move.
Other than that, great games. Glad to see your making more of an effort to attend tournaments.
So, what's the deal with Arkive and the cops =P.
A good MK is much harder than a good ROB.i think overswarm went a little too far. but yeah i'd say ROB is a more difficult matchup for Link
well yea in most cases that's pretty much true i guess.A good MK is much harder than a good ROB.
Kinda why he's my idol. lolTo be fair, he doesn't have his own Wii. It's mind boggling to me how he ***** so hard.
Id Like to pick up bombsliding sasook but Im just not that good with it lol. I really dont know how you pull it off so well but I cant get the reverse timing down at all. I havent been able to really practice it either. Next time I play ill be sure to work on it though, it looks really helpful.So I guess Legan's not picking up bombsliding....
This is very true, it's happened to me before. Bombslidings not easy xDThing with bombsliding is, you cant stop doing it or you'll lose the timing. I stopped playing Brawl for like a month or so (I blame Rockband 2) and when I came back to brawl a week ago, my bombsliding skills (and pivot boost jab locking skills) got rusted.
I'm thinking about sigging this.Srsly. It's kinda broken that one of our communities finest (able to take OS 2-0 in your innitial money match? Shex!.) Does not even own the console this game is played on. =P Legan for WTF tier.
Yeah seriously, we're all curious.@Arkive. . .tell me the freakin cop story. . .I wanna know now =P
Doesn't he always play less flashy and more basic in tourney matches?And like I said, I know you'll never admit it, but it's definately becoming noticable by me and I know by others as well. And it's not a bad thing lol. In my book it means you're getting better. I don't really mean you're getting slower or losing tech skill. It just mean's your playing smarter ^_^
Indians.....terrorists......bombs......failed bombslides resulting in "suicide bombing"........O_o...Finally, I do have one final trick against MK. I dont even have it in any vids cuz I dont want anyone else to see this really. All I can say is, my mom's from India and for that reason I'm half indian and kinda sorta look arab so I get the terrorist puns all the time. Mix that with failed bomb slides and you have the perfect setup to **** any MK you'll ever play. That's not much of a hint. . .I know, but PM me if you want details. I wont tell anyone aside from you or Arkive at this point, cuz if it gets out people will start looking out for it and it'll become useless, which is why I haven't done it in any vids yet. For now, even when it happens it looks like an accident, so it's been serving me quit well. AKA, I wish you coulda seen some of my matches that weren't recorded against DSF, or the time I almost 3 stocked Jem's MK. All thanks to this tactic.