King of Evil Showdown! (Finished)

[Vermanubis]

I get what you mean. I've just gotten bored of all the "Verm vs Kalm".

I wish the competition was more varied, trust me. D:

I just need to determine on what grounds to declare the victor/if it's been long enough/etc. As it stands, it would appear that I'm ahead by a good margin, but I don't know if the debacle has been given long enough, or if it is merely the illusion of being long enough due to everybody getting bored.

 

[Exalted]

I agree with Knee.

And Kalm hasn't said much now, has he?

 

[Vermanubis]

I agree with Knee.

And Kalm hasn't said much now, has he?

He has in the Xat, but unfortunately, even with my own aspiration for the spot aside, he's been inactive as full Ganon for approximately 7 months. So, given his inactivity in this thread, in the game and so forth, I can't really keep abiding his requests to "balance" the competition. >_<

Once a few more folks confirm that they feel it's been long enough and that a victor is evident, I'll do it. Though, I wish someone else could do it. Putting my own name in that spot feels so horribly narcissistic.

When a winner is chosen though, I think we should all decide on a re-election period. Such as every 6 months, the spot is up for grabs again.

 

[Exalted]

Lol, you shouldn't have made the thread yourself if you feel that it's narcissistic
But really, if you are elected KoE, you should be proud of yourself.

 

[Zeallyx]

He has in the Xat, but unfortunately, even with my own aspiration for the spot aside, he's been inactive as full Ganon for approximately 7 months. So, given his inactivity in this thread, in the game and so forth, I can't really keep abiding his requests to "balance" the competition. >_<

Once a few more folks confirm that they feel it's been long enough and that a victor is evident, I'll do it. Though, I wish someone else could do it. Putting my own name in that spot feels so horribly narcissistic.

When a winner is chosen though, I think we should all decide on a re-election period. Such as every 6 months, the spot is up for grabs again.

In my eyes, you are making two small mistakes:

You seem to take this election too seriously, plus, you seem to take the people too seriously.

This is all in good fun. We all shouldnt forget that.

And last, but certainly not least: You have the facts to back you up, the majority of the votes, so I think its safe to say, that, at least for the coming six months, you are the king of evil.

And dont worry about narcissism. You deserve the title.

 

[Vermanubis]

Lol, you shouldn't have made the thread yourself if you feel that it's narcissistic
But really, if you are elected KoE, you should be proud of yourself.

The thread entailed far more than just the tier list. I had no idea I'd even be considered for the spot when I made the thread. x_X

Thanks though, Ex.

 

[Exalted]

So the title "King of Evil Showdown!" didn'd tip you off? I am disappoint, son.

As for the tier list, you could always hand those responsebilities to someone else, I dunno.

 

[Vermanubis]

In my eyes, you are making two small mistakes:

You seem to take this election too seriously, plus, you seem to take the people too seriously.

This is all in good fun. We all shouldnt forget that.

And last, but certainly not least: You have the facts to back you up, the majority of the votes, so I think its safe to say, that, at least for the coming six months, you are the king of evil.

Eh... I don't know where you got the idea that I was taking this seriously. I'm gonna have to disagree on that much. I'm slightly confused as to why you say that, as I felt I was the only one having fun. I tried to be "professional" and make the whole process as "official" as I could. But if that was mistaken as being overly serious, I don't know how that came about. O_O

 

[Vermanubis]

So the title "King of Evil Showdown!" didn'd tip you off? I am disappoint, son.

As for the tier list, you could always hand those responsebilities to someone else, I dunno.

I don't put my name in this thread. I put it in the social thread. Think, Ex, think.

 

[Exalted]

Bah nvm. My previous sentence was poorly formulated

 

[Vermanubis]

It's a shame there aren't more competitive Ganons. This election could've been so fun and heated if there were.

Lesson learned. Competition in a widely non-competitive community results in strange things.

 

[Exalted]

I'm gonna get competetive with myself tonight.

In all seriousness though, I'd also try my chances at getting the KoE title, but being restricted to WiFail doesn't help.
You shall be toppled one day, o Great Beast! O:<<<

 

[Vermanubis]

I'm gonna get competetive with myself tonight.

In all seriousness though, I'd also try my chances at getting the KoE title, but being restricted to WiFail doesn't help.
You shall be toppled one day, o Great Beast! O:<<<

I encourage everyone that wants to do to so. I firmly believe, as much as I hate to admit it, that the only reason I'm in the running for the spot in the first place is due to superior players not giving their all to Ganon.

If I'm NOT toppled, I'll be very, very surprised.

 

[Exalted]

As for now though, I think most of us would be happy with you at the throne.

 

[Vermanubis]

Thanks, Ex. I just wish more people had more fun. Maybe by the time the next induction comes along, more people will be confident enough to compete so it doesn't become a pissing contest between 2-3 players.

Maybe by then we'll have enough experienced Ganons to form a panel as well.

 

[Exalted]

I'm having fun doing some "serious" discussion for once, since I'm more of a joker

 

[the king of murder]

lol.

 

[Exalted]

Wombo Combo.

 

[DLA]

Just take the **** spot Verm. The only person who will complain is Kalm... and what's he going to do? Go inactive for another 6 months?

I know you don't want to upset anyone, but you're both so stubborn that I don't think this is going to be resolved without someone being upset. If Kalm wants the spot, he can earn it back. And if he deserves the spot, he'll have no problem earning it back. For now, he needs to realize that you're currently more qualified for the spot.

Just set a date for the next KoE to be elected. Because unless he's getting 1st place already (he isn't), there are still good players for him to beat and give him qualifications for the KoE spot. And if he can't beat them, then he doesn't deserve the position.

 

[Exalted]

Couldn't have said it better myself, DLA.

 

[Ganonsburg]

Pretty much what DLA said. I can't think of any kind of argument for Kalm that doesn't involve waiting a bit for him to prove himself.

 

[Z1GMA]

I want to say Kalm.
I believe he has unlimited potential as a 'Dorf.
In fact - I know he has.
Kalm doesn't play Ganon - He *is* Ganon.

But, under all these circumstances,
I'd have to say Verm deserves the spot.
His tourney-****** is unmatched atm.
Respect.
You deserve the throne.

Kalm just needs to put more effort into it.

 

[Vermanubis]

Alright. Thanks, everybody. Looks like we can end it here.

I think 6 months is a good amount of time to let anyone who wants to prove their worth do it. 6 months sound good? Shall we set the date at 2/18/11?

 

[Noobicidal]

Alright. Thanks, everybody. Looks like we can end it here.

I think 6 months is a good amount of time to let anyone who wants to prove their worth do it. 6 months sound good? Shall we set the date at 2/18/11?

It's a date!

Also,

Solidarity

I laughed.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

Just take the **** spot Verm. The only person who will complain is Kalm... and what's he going to do? Go inactive for another 6 months?

I know you don't want to upset anyone, but you're both so stubborn that I don't think this is going to be resolved without someone being upset. If Kalm wants the spot, he can earn it back. And if he deserves the spot, he'll have no problem earning it back. For now, he needs to realize that you're currently more qualified for the spot.

Just set a date for the next KoE to be elected. Because unless he's getting 1st place already (he isn't), there are still good players for him to beat and give him qualifications for the KoE spot. And if he can't beat them, then he doesn't deserve the position.

The rest of your post is understandable. But, "Unless he's getting 1st place." Really. What the hell do you mean by this?

 

[Z1GMA]

Alright. Thanks, everybody. Looks like we can end it here.

I think 6 months is a good amount of time to let anyone who wants to prove their worth do it. 6 months sound good? Shall we set the date at 2/18/11?

6 months sounds good.
But how about 4 months? Then it'd change 3 times in a year.

I say either 4 or 6.

Hmm.. This is starting to look like that Tudor/Xyro-thingy.

 

[Exalted]

I'd say 666 months is enough.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

There shouldn't be any 'months', if you achieve an accomplishment, that accomplishment should be noted right away.

 

[Koskinator]

yeah that just means im not gonna return for atleast X amount of months

 

[Breezy]

I'm the best Ganondorf. Get@me

 

[Vermanubis]

There shouldn't be any 'months', if you achieve an accomplishment, that accomplishment should be noted right away.

Too hectic. Plus, one accomplishment, unless it is getting something like 2nd or 1st in a good-sized tournament, isn't necessarily enough. I think to remain on the spot or seize it, any given person should maintain consistency for that period of time. Whoever is more consistent or has more notable accomplishments/distinguished themselves above the other should get it.

Kalm, I know it sucks, but that's the most organized and orderly way to do things. Say you got several accomplishments to topple my own. Then everyone would have to go through this process again. Then if I outdid you in a tournament the following week, we'd do it again, once again. No other board on the planet works on an instant-amendment basis.

I think 6 months is fair. I think the absolute, bare minimum should be 4, but 6 would be best, I feel. Because let's bear in mind, the King of Evil is meant to be the Ganon "icon/spokesperson/frontman" and if it's constantly changing, it'd just be chaos.

I'm putting my foot down this time, though. I've relentlessly repped Ganon nonstop for 5 months now in every way imaginable through tourney, friendlies and MMs and done, if I may say so, **** good. King of Evil and ANY "top spot" s should be determined by an apt resume, not by sporadic upsets, unless monumental. If you're better than me, you've got a good number of months to prove it. I apologize for being so blunt, but I'm just precluding any attempts to manipulate the system to get on the spot early.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

No, I'm sorry, that isn't the proper way to do things.

By accomplishment I wasn't giving it any numeric value, rather the acquisition must be one which can relate to the title The King of Evil.

I don't mind you having the spot currently, since you do seem to be more active and attentive then me currently, but there's no such thing as a certain amount of time to prove something, not in my book at least.

If you still disagree with this, then I'll just have to do things myself.

 

[Vermanubis]

No, I'm sorry, that isn't the proper way to do things.

By accomplishment I wasn't giving it any numeric value, rather the acquisition must be one which can relate to the title The King of Evil.

I don't mind you having the spot currently, since you do seem to be more active and attentive then me currently, but there's no such thing as a certain amount of time to prove something, not in my book at least.

If you still disagree with this, then I'll just have to do things myself.

I know what you mean, but while it doesn't take a certain amount of to prove something, it works both ways. I know you're highly confident in your abilities, but I'm just as much so, so we could both do something that is relative to the title acquisition.

What you need to understand though is the fact that I'm not resting on my laurels being in this spot. I'm going to fight to maintain it and rep Ganon just as hard as ever. If someone were inducted or replaced every time the other did something notable, it'd be pure chaos. A number of months should be given for all competitors to build a resume so at the end of the period, the two can stack side-by-side.

Your idea of this competition involves only you. But when you factor in the fact that I, and others, are/may compete, you see the plain logic behind this system, and why it has been historically successful. Both sides need a set amount of time to prove themselves. The idea is that both parties have a window of time to rectify errors, make a comeback or or catch up.

Sorry, Kalm. I think just about everybody agrees this is the optimal system. If they don't, then they should submit a formal contention to the Democratic countries of the world, telling them how their electoral process and the concept of presidential terms are flawed. You can try to change it all you like, but for the next few months, if you think you're better, you're going to have to be patient, just like I and everyone else will have to be if dethroned to someone else.

 

[DLA]

The rest of your post is understandable. But, "Unless he's getting 1st place." Really. What the hell do you mean by this?

It's not that important; it was referring to an argument you and Verm were having in the chat. If you're still curious then I can explain what I meant... but just know that it wasn't mean as an insult towards you or your region.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

If someone were inducted or replaced every time the other did something notable, it'd be pure chaos.

That's how things usually are. Let's say Bob has the world's highest jump record, as high as 8 meters. But if Bill jumps 8.13 meters, you don't wait 4 months and then give him the world's "highest jump" record. Nothing will be in chaos since the only two fighting for this spot are me and you, I doubt there will be another contender, there wasn't anyone for months before you came.

So, once again, if you still disagree, I'll do things myself. This isn't reliant on you.

 

[the king of murder]

The thing is that the KoE spot is not a competiton. We choose someone who will represent the Ganon Boards. It's more like policy.

 

[Bahamut777]

Honestly speaking...

I think the KoE spot must not be take by our best 'Dorf, since there's no way to really determinate that. Instead, it should be someone who can speak for the boards when necessary and represent up, just like Nidoking. I nominate Z1GMA or Ray Kalm for that spot.

If you still think the KoE should be taken by the best 'Dorf, then my vote is for Vermanubis and DLA, who both scored pretty high(10+) on high level tourneys.

I would like to compete for that, but I can't for a thousand of reasons.

 

[the king of murder]

It should be a mix of legit tournament results, knowledge of the game and how good this person can represent the Ganon Board.

 

[Vermanubis]

That's how things usually are. Let's say Bob has the world's highest jump record, as high as 8 meters. But if Bill jumps 8.13 meters, you don't wait 4 months and then give him the world's "highest jump" record. Nothing will be in chaos since the only two fighting for this spot are me and you, I doubt there will be another contender, there wasn't anyone for months before you came.

So, once again, if you still disagree, I'll do things myself. This isn't reliant on you.

Kalm, in your fervent desire to take your spot back, you're refusing to see the flagrant logic in the system. Your example presents achievements that can be directly quantified that are not variable. A better analogy would be baseball. If player A hits more homeruns in the beginning of the season than player B, that doesn't make him a better baseball player. Player B could still come back in the second half and show player A up.

That's the logic behind the system that's in place. It is so no two players are constantly outdoing each other, because, like it or not, tournament results and accomplishments are not completely quantifiable. If they were, we wouldn't be having this debacle in the first place. This means if one Ganon does something big, we have to have a huge discussion over who's to be put on. I don't think anybody wants that.

You're not thinking far ahead, Kalm. All that's on your mind right now is obsessing over seizing your "rightful spot" and details are irrelevant. You aren't considering that if you somehow outdid me, I could just as likely outdo you and create a monthly struggle for King of Evil. And while this isn't reliant on me, I think you're the only who desires such a spasmodic system.

Honestly speaking...

I think the KoE spot must not be take by our best 'Dorf, since there's no way to really determinate that. Instead, it should be someone who can speak for the boards when necessary and represent up, just like Nidoking. I nominate Z1GMA or Ray Kalm for that spot.

If you still think the KoE should be taken by the best 'Dorf, then my vote is for Vermanubis and DLA, who both scored pretty high(10+) on high level tourneys.

I would like to compete for that, but I can't for a thousand of reasons.

It's just a funny name for someone who's on top of Ganon's metagame. This entails being somewhat iconic and knowledgable in most cases, thus making the person good to represent the Ganon boards in a positive light. If the Ganon is top, they'll likely be well-known and their skill level will brign them a degree of charisma, making them inherently good reps more often than not.

]The thing is that the KoE spot is not a competiton. We choose someone who will represent the Ganon Boards. It's more like policy.

You've got it a little reversed. Read above.
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Every other board works this way. This system is the most logical and organized. And no, not because it "favors me", but because it is how every other board has been successful. Just because it favors me does not make it unfair, flawed or fallacious. People can also get butthurt saying I'm commandeering how things work here, but all I'm doing is implementing a system that I've observed to be successful in hopes to bring some credibility to the Ganon boards.

I hate being so blunt, but it seems to be the only way to knock sense into some people. :X

 

[the king of murder]

You've got it a little reversed. Read above.

Excuse my lack of understanding but I don't 100% get what you mean.