How do I do a Barrel Roll? ~ Fox Q&A (Check the OP)

[crifer]

Quit good, but nothing special.

Other question:

Do you fast fall nair every time???
I mean, if I fast fall nai I will have less lag or?
but if the opponent dodges, I won´t hit.
If I use nair without fast falling I can punish spot dodges (and combo into usmash <3)

SO which is better? do you fast fall the nair if you see your opponent not dodging?

 

[Sukai]

It's a general matter of circumstance.
Use them both depending on which one will be more effective at the time.

 

[Red Arremer]

Is Fox able to Grab Release to USmash and GR to DSmash Ness?

 

[luke_atyeo]

so I was lurking around and found this on uzi's massive **** wall of txt

Shine>Dash Attack____0%-200%

Shine>up-smash______0%-120%

true combo's on mario or whatever, do they work on everyone? or only mario? or only certain characters? is there a list somewhere?

and I'm guessing the timing is balls hard since I usually get shielded when I try these.

 

[Zhamy]

They work on basically everyone but Luigi, who slides like a mother****er. (The percents and whatnot change, though).

Try it from 40-60% on most characters.

And yeah, they more or less need to be frame perfect.

EDIT: Fox is too short to force air release; not sure about ground break -> Dsmash, though.

 

[_Kain_]

Does Uair beat nado? I DIed out of it to the side and uaired first hit clanked and 2nd hit broke it

 

[Boo-Boo]

how do you do a dash down B because when i do it fox takes to long for them to do it is there timing to it

Does any one know who the best fox is or the top 5

 

[Sukai]

Does Uair beat nado? I DIed out of it to the side and uaired first hit clanked and 2nd hit broke it

You sure that's what happened?
Air attacks never clank, they trade hits.

Heeeey boo boo, use the edit button.

 

[_Kain_]

You sure that's what happened?
Air attacks never clank, they trade hits.

Heeeey boo boo, use the edit button.

Idk if its technically clanking but when i got out i uaired first hit hit the tornado nothing happened then the 2nd hit broke it i have a vid of it

 

[crifer]

Hey,
I looked up the fox frame data and in every Thread it is written that laser has 0 landing lag,
which can not be true or? silent laser should have 0 but non-silent should have at least 1 frame or?
Or does the regular landing lag is added to the move landing lag??

 

[Fenrir VII]

Air attacks never clank, they trade hits.

Not quite true. Aerials clank with certain other attacks pretty often. An easy one is to try a Fox nair (or dair or maybe the others) Vs. MK's glide attack. it will clank. I remember ZSS having some interesting clanking issues with her whip, but I can't remember why.

Also, Nair and Dair can both clank with tornado, so I don't see why uair couldn't... tricky as anything to time, though.


I'm not really sure why some things clank in the air, to be honest, I haven't really figured it out. I just know that it does happen.

 

[Zhamy]

Hey,
I looked up the fox frame data and in every Thread it is written that laser has 0 landing lag,
which can not be true or? silent laser should have 0 but non-silent should have at least 1 frame or?
Or does the regular landing lag is added to the move landing lag??

Regular landing lag applies.

 

[crifer]

Regular landing lag applies.

So it doesn´t matter if I silent or normally laser??
It makes no difference?

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

So it doesn´t matter if I silent or normally laser??
It makes no difference?

-.-

silent laser has no LASER lag
normal laser has animation lag.

when you land anytime you have a few frames of crouching lag.
thats what he is talking aobut

 

[crifer]

-.-

silent laser has no LASER lag
normal laser has animation lag.

when you land anytime you have a few frames of crouching lag.
thats what he is talking aobut

So I am faster if I silent laser. (!?) thx.
What´s the frame advantage, if there is any.?

 

[Toronto Joe]

you dont make any noise

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

So I am faster if I silent laser. (!?) thx.
What´s the frame advantage, if there is any.?

a TON, if you mess it up he will do the "put away gun" animation and it takes freaking for ever, as slow as a grounded laser.

 

[Bad!]

how do u use shine on ground then dash attack?

when do i press side b to cancel the fox illusion? help plz
?

 

[Hanzhou]

Umm..... What happened to Our stage discussion? Will there be a new one made perhaps? Also since Uzi said I should post my question here any usefulness in canceling ledge hop with shine so you instantly land on stage shining? Especially after 100% when ledge getup/attack/roll is predictable.

 

[Laem]

yo so im always hearing that fox gets owned by 'pretty much every cg/infinite in the game', but i honestly cant think of more than the obvious falco (not too devastating), pika and ic chaingrab (both fatal), and sheik's tilt lock... can u enlighten me why fox apparently gets destroyed by so many characters?

 

[Toronto Joe]

fast fall feels good man

 

[Hanzhou]

I need to abuse ledgehop cancel with side B and shine :<

 

[Boo-Boo]

if you want to come up off the ledge and than shine just tap up and as fast as you can push down B but if you want to side but if you want to side B off the ledge i like to jump down and than jump up than side B on to the stage but if you want you can mind game and do side B to the ledge again

does any one know how to dash cancel shine when i do it i cant even shine i just dash and even when i do shine the shine comes out to late and i get punished WANT CAN I DO

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

does any one know how to dash cancel shine when i do it i cant even shine i just dash and even when i do shine the shine comes out to late and i get punished WANT CAN I DO

Jump cancel the shine

 

[Boo-Boo]

so i have to dash than jump cancel shine

 

[Hanzhou]

@ boo boo I think ledge jump cancel side B Is better than a back/down drop depending on situation

 

[Boo-Boo]

yea depending on situations

want are good ways to approach

 

[Sosuke]

Can you please stop double posting? ._.

 

[Boo-Boo]

ok sorry still new at this but do you know what a good approach would be for fox

 

[Zhamy]

What have you tried?

 

[Hanzhou]

General rule is try your best not to approach at all eh?

 

[Asce]

Q: How do i kick a campy, phantasm spamming falco's ***?

 

[Sukai]

With good timing and patience.

 

[Boo-Boo]

i have tryed dash short hop back air thats all i cant think of any other way i approach

 

[luke_atyeo]

for an approach try SHAD to uptilt (land behind them), works very well for me, also dair/nair into the back of their shield and then utilt or dsmash or whatever (again the idea is to land behind them)

 

[Boo-Boo]

ok i well try it basically try to land behind them after my approach so i can uptilt them after but i dont know what SHAD is short hop?????

 

[Zhamy]

Short Hop Air Dodge -> Utilt to stuff whatever shenanigans they try.

 

[Boo-Boo]

oh ok than i will try that any other ways i can approach

 

[Razmakazi]

shad behind them to buffered grab cud work i guess.

hmmmm


oh yeah, how do you jab jab cancel grab properly? I wanna do it fast. Is this a timing thing or is there buffering involved to make it easier?

 

[Jupz]

When you jumpcancel a shine, does fox leave the ground?