Here's the keys - make a crossover fighter with [INSERT IP HERE].

[Wario Wario Wario]

oh my god... donald over goofy? are you insane?!?!?!?

/s

After saving this image and closing the tab, I realized that to capture the real "Nintendo fan talking about Xbox" experience, I should've called Elsa "Frozen Princess" and Simba "the lion". Too bad the site I used doesn't save closed tab projects.

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

Disney Destruction - as made by someone who has only ever watched Nickelodeon.

have i beaten the whole "banjo fans think he's microsoft's most famous ip because console wars" joke into the ground yet

After saving this image and closing the tab, I realized that to capture the real "Nintendo fan talking about Xbox" experience, I should've called Elsa "Frozen Princess" and Simba "the lion". Too bad the site I used doesn't save closed tab projects.

I can forgive putting Donald over Goofy, as we're getting another classic Disney character at all. I can even see why Buzz, Elsa, and Simba would be included.

But having SEVEN DOUG REPS in a TWELVE CHARACTER ROSTER? If this was an actual roster, you would have gotten lynched by sundown.

Oh, and the names you think you should have called Elsa and Simba? That's just the icing on the cake.

In short, to summarize, and as a conclusion to my far-too-serious rant, this makes me slightly offended by the Banjo-Kazooie fanbase. If you are a Banjo-Kazooie fan, that's okay. But by bringing my own childhood company into this charade, you have made me draw the line.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I can forgive putting Donald over Goofy, as we're getting another classic Disney character at all. I can even see why Buzz, Elsa, and Simba would be included.

But having SEVEN DOUG REPS in a TWELVE CHARACTER ROSTER? If this was an actual roster, you would have gotten lynched by sundown.

Oh, and the names you think you should have called Elsa and Simba? That's just the icing on the cake.

In short, to summarize, and as a conclusion to my far-too-serious rant, this makes me slightly offended by the Banjo-Kazooie fanbase. If you are a Banjo-Kazooie fan, that's okay. But by bringing my own childhood company into this charade, you have made me draw the line.

Finally, I have proven my very petty point about hypothetical Microsoft Smash rosters.

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

Finally, I have proven my very petty point about hypothetical Microsoft Smash rosters.

If it was any other company than Disney, I would have let it slide with a harsh warning and the typical nerd statements. But as a lifelong Disney fanatic, I now share your pain.

And what makes it worse is that Microsoft, like Disney, has a lot more IPs to add if we factor in their history of acquisitions. This, if anything, makes it even harder to stomach the RareWare bias in your average Microsoft Smash lineup. And I'm a fan of Rare Ltd. to begin with.

Basically, if anyone wants to make a Microsoft Smash roster, and you see any problems with it, just let me know. I'll be sure to give them an earful.

 

[LoZ00]

I redid my Bandai-Namco roster because I was unhappy with a few choices here and there. I also raised the total amount of characters to 30, just because I like it better than 26 (which was my old roster's size). And finally, I changed the background color, as Bandai-Namco is a company I associate with red-orange-yellow more than light blue. You may call me mad for thinking about stuff like this, but try creating an Xbox roster without using the color green as a background... Without any further ado, here is my roster:

It is largely unchanged from my previous version, but there are some changes here and there. I added a few characters, removed some others, and changed some arts used. For a more detailed explanation on my choices (which more often than not have been simply copy-pasted from my previous project):

Spoiler: Bandai-Namco roster

And that's it. I hinted many times at some possible rivals, but now I don't have time to think them all through. Some of them are quite self-explanatory however:

Spoiler: Rivals

 

[BowserKing]

Marvel vs Nintendo: Infinity Smash

Marvel Side
1.Spider-Man
2.Green Goblin
3.Venom
4.Ghost-Spider
5.Iron-Man
6.Thor
7.Loki
8.Hulk
9.Wasp
10.Ant-Man
11.Captain America
12.Black Widow
13.Hawkeye
14.Black Panther
15.Gamora
16.Rocket Raccoon
17.Groot
18.Scarlet Witch
19.Wolverine
20.Storm
21.Deadpool
22.Thanos
23.Mr.Fantastic
24.Invisable Woman
25.Human Torch
26.Thing
27.Dr.Strange
28.Moon Girl
29.Devil Dinosaur
30.Captain Marvel

Nintendo Side
1.Mario
2.Luigi
3.Peach
4.Bowser
5.Donkey Kong
6.Diddy Kong
7.Yoshi
8.Link
9.Zelda
10.Ganondorf
11.Samus
12.Ridley
13.Kirby
14.King Dedede
15.Meta Knight
16.Fox
17.Pikachu
18.Lugia
19.Lucario
20.Dragapult
21.Ness
22.Captain Falcon
23.Ice Climbers
24.Pit
25.Olimar
26.Isabelle
27.Pyra and Mythra
28.Inkling
29.Min-Min
30.Issac

DLC

Marvel Side
1.Miles Morales
2.Ultron
3.Mantis
4.Psylocke
5.Dr.Doom
6.Ms.Marvel
7.Raven (Guest Fighter)
8.She-Hulk
9.Vision
10.Batman (Guest Fighter)

Nintendo Side
1.Rosalina and Luma
2.King K.Rool
3.Midna
4.Incineroar
5.Palutena
6.Little Mac
7.Sonic (Guest Fighter)
8.Dillon
9.Mr.Game & Watch
10.Megaman (Guest Fighter)

 

[HyperSomari64]

Raven (Guest Fighter)

Why not Batman?
It is some kind of bias?

 

[Infinity Sorcerer]

​

Super Hero Time was is a programmation block from the japanese channel TV Asashi, part of the larger Nichi Asa Kids Time block, it primaly focus on Toei's tokusatsu series Super Sentai and Kamen Rider, thought time ago they also included Gavan/Metal Hero on the list. I must say that this isn't exactly a SHT roster but I took the title because it is cool, what I'm actually doing is a Japanese Super Hero roster, there is quite a focus on Toei's main heroes (Kamen Rider, Super Sentai and Pretty Cure) but I'm trying to also have something of other franchises such as Ultraman or Sailor Moon. A big aclaration required is that in terms of anime expect to mostly see old series like the previous mentioned Sailor Moon, Gatchaman or Astro Boy so if there is a question about why not add one of the most recent superhero manga/anime that's why.

Spoiler: Super Hero Time Roster

 

[BowserKing]

Disney Battlegrounds: The Magic returns
The Main Stars
1.Mickey
2.Donald
3.Goofy
4.Chip and Dale
The Ducks
1.Scrooge McDuck
2.Webby
3.Darkwing Duck
4.Nega-Duck
Animated Canon
1.Lady and Tramp
2.Pongo and Perditta
3.Kaa
4.Robin Hood
5.Ariel
6.Simba
7.Scar
8.Mulan
9.Aladar
10.Bolt
11.Judy
Pixar
1.Luxo Jr
2.Buzz
3.Mike
4.Violet
5.Remy and Linguini
6.Wall-E and Eve
7.Joy
8.Mei
Cartoons
1.Kim
2.Shego
3.Perry
4.Dr.Doofinshmirtz
5.Mabel and Dipper
6.Grunkel Stan
7.Wander
8.Sylvia
9.Lord Hater
10.Commander Peepers
11.Cricket
12.Tilly
13.Polly
14.Marcy
15.Luz
16.King
17.Scratch and Molly
Marvel
1.Spider-Man
2.Iron-Man
3.Hulk
4.Wasp
5.Black Panther
6.Rocket Raccoon
7.Groot
8.Scarlet Witch
9.Moon Girl
10.Deadpool
Star Wars
1.Darth Vader
2.Yoda
3.Luke Skywalker
Fox
1.Bart
2.Stewie
3.Peter
4.Brian
5.Leela
6.Bender
7.Roger
8.Xenomorph
9.Sid the Sloth

DLC
Vilest villains pack
1.Maleficent
2.Gaston
3.Randall
4.Syndrome
5.Bill Cypher
6.Lord Dominator
7.Thanos
8.Bertram

Royalty Pack
1.Belle
2.Aladdin
3.Elsa
4.Star
5.Thor
6.Loki
7.Leia
8.Fry

Animals Amuck (with humans as well)
1.Dumbo
2.Timon and Pumbaa
3.Nick
4.Flik
5.Ron and Rufus
6.Anne and Sprig
7.Devil Dinosaur
8.Buck

In response to below, I fixed a few things, I hope you’re happy. FWI I was going for an All Stars Brawl type route where non protagonists can get a spot without the main lead.

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

Disney Battlegrounds: The Magic returns

The Ducks
1.Scrooge McDuck
2.Webby
3.Darkwing Duck
4.Donald
Animated Canon
1.Simba
2.Scar
3.Aladar
4.Bolt
5.Judy
Pixar
1.Luxo Jr
2.Buzz
3.Mike
4.Violet
5.Remy and Linguini
6.Wall-E and Eve
Cartoons
1.Kim
2.Shego
3.Perry
4.Dr.Doofinshmirtz
5.Mabel and Dipper
6.Grunkel Stan
7.Wander
8.Sylvia
9.Lord Hater
10.Commander Peepers
11.Cricket
12.Tilly
13.Polly
14.Marcy
15.Luz
16.King
17.Scratch and Molly
Marvel
1.Spider-Man
2.Iron-Man
3.Hulk
4.Wasp
5.Rocket Raccoon
6.Moon Girl
Star Wars
1.Darth Vader
2.Yoda
Fox
1.Bart
2.Stewie
3.Peter
4.Brian
5.Leela
6.Bender
7.Roger

Still a WIP

I get this is a Work in Progress, but if this was a finished roster, there would be so many downsides to it.

1: No Mickey Mouse. That is a cardinal sin when making a Disney fighting roster.
2: The only Walt-era characters are Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge.
3: There is a rep from the 2000 movie Dinosaur over characters like Tinker Bell or Stitch, if we look at the Animated Canon section.
4: Approximately one-third of the complete roster is characters from Marvel, Lucasfilm, and Fox. This would get Disney purists even angrier than excluding Mickey.
5: The "cartoons" wing of the roster overshadows literally ALL other sections. And if we include Darkwing in that pile, that means 18 of these characters come from TV shows. Either add enough characters for 17 slots in each category, or spin off the Wander Over Yonder section.

Granted, I respect the individual choices. Each one of these characters would be unique in some way, be it representation or moveset. But as it currently stands, it's one notch below "passable".

 

[SmasherMaster]

Disney Royal Rumble (Only characters that are kings, queens, princes, princesses or emperors are allowed)

1. Snow White
2. Cinderella*
3. Auora
4. Ariel
5. Jasmine
6. Belle *
7. Pocahontas**
8. Mulan ***
9. Tiana *
10. Merida
11. Rapunzel
12. Anna
13. Elsa
14. Moana
15. Vanellope
16. Raya
17. Prince Phillip
18. Aladdin *
19. Beast
20. Triton
21. Evil Queen
22. Simba
23. Scar
24. Horned King
25. Kuzco
26. Yzma
27. Tarzan
28. Zeus
29. Hercules
30. Queen of Hearts
31. Arthur
32. Kida
33. Robin Hood
34. King Mickey
35. Princess Minnie
36. Thor
37. Hela
38. Loki
39. Sylvie
40. T'Challa
41. Killmonger
42. Shuri
43. Jack Skellington
44. Rey
45. Palatine
46. Leia
47. Star Butterfly
48. Sofia
49. Dave the Barbarian ****
50. Candace Flynn
51. Mal (Decendants)
52. Belos
53. King Clawthorne
54. Zurg
55. The King (Cars)

*Titled Gained Via Marrage are still titles
**Daughter of chief is close enough, but even then.
***Mulan is classified as a princess by Disney
****How could I forget about Dave the Barbarian. For his neutral special he wields a homemade megaphone constructed only using some string, a squirrel and a megaphone.
Somehow I feel like I'm missing some people. Almost forgot about Zurg for a second.

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

Disney Royal Rumble (Only characters that are kings, queens, princes, princesses or emperors are allowed)

1. Snow White
2. Cinderella*
3. Auora
4. Ariel
5. Jasmine
6. Belle *
7. Pocahontas**
8. Mulan ***
9. Tiana *
10. Merida
11. Rapunzel
12. Anna
13. Elsa
14. Moana
15. Vanellope
16. Raya
17. Prince Phillip
18. Aladdin *
19. Beast
20. Triton
21. Evil Queen
22. Simba
23. Scar
24. Horned King
25. Kuzco
26. Yzma
27. Tarzan
28. Zeus
29. Hercules
30. Queen of Hearts
31. Arthur
32. Kida
33. Robin Hood
34. King Mickey
35. Princess Minnie
36. Thor
37. Hela
38. Loki
39. Sylvie
40. T'Challa
41. Killmonger
42. Shuri
43. Jack Skellington
44. Rey
45. Palatine
46. Leia
47. Star Butterfly
48. Sofia
49. Dave the Barbarian ****
50. Candace Flynn
51. Mal (Decendants)
52. Belos
53. King Clawthorne
54. Zurg
55. The King (Cars)

*Titled Gained Via Marrage are still titles
**Daughter of chief is close enough, but even then.
***Mulan is classified as a princess by Disney
****How could I forget about Dave the Barbarian. For his neutral special he wields a homemade megaphone constructed only using some string, a squirrel and a megaphone.
Somehow I feel like I'm missing some people. Almost forgot about Zurg for a second.

Despite only including royalty, this is quite an expansive Disney roster.

I'd personally main Cinderella, Ariel, Mulan, Elsa, The Beast, Simba, Yzma, Hercules, Kida, Robin Hood, Mickey, Loki, Jack Skellington, Leia, Star, Dave, Mal, and King Clawthorne. Mostly Ariel, Elsa, Beast, Hercules, Mickey, Jack, and Mal.

Even for the emphasized list, that's seven mains I'd have.

There's just one character that's surely missing: Maleficent. In the remake, she was called the "Queen of the Moors" or something, and she basically rules the Forbidden Mountain in the original movie.

 

[SmasherMaster]

Despite only including royalty, this is quite an expansive Disney roster.

I'd personally main Cinderella, Ariel, Mulan, Elsa, The Beast, Simba, Yzma, Hercules, Kida, Robin Hood, Mickey, Loki, Jack Skellington, Leia, Star, Dave, Mal, and King Clawthorne. Mostly Ariel, Elsa, Beast, Hercules, Mickey, Jack, and Mal.

Even for the emphasized list, that's seven mains I'd have.

There's just one character that's surely missing: Maleficent. In the remake, she was called the "Queen of the Moors" or something, and she basically rules the Forbidden Mountain in the original movie.

I had to go back several times to double check, mostly because I didn't want to include anybody who actually wasn't (for some reason I assumed Tinkerbell somehow was royalty). Plus I didn't want to fill the roster with royal characters that aren't prominent enough (Ariel's sisters for example)

Also I never saw the live action remake, so that's why she wasn't included.

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

I had to go back several times to double check, mostly because I didn't want to include anybody who actually wasn't (for some reason I assumed Tinkerbell somehow was royalty). Plus I didn't want to fill the roster with royal characters that aren't prominent enough (Ariel's sisters for example)

Also I never saw the live action remake, so that's why she wasn't included.

You make a good point here. And with all the characters that are there, there's a LOT of combinations we can use.

 

[Perkilator]

What if Capcom made a Super Robot Wars fighting game in the mid-2000’s?​

Dygenguar​	Blodia​	Super-8​	PTX 40-A​	RX-78-2 Gundam	MSN-04 Sazabi​
MS-06 Zaku II​	Mazinger Z​	Getter-1​	Evangelion Unit-01​	VF-1S Valkyrie​	Daimos​
Zambot 3​	Dunbine​	ATM-09-ST Scopedog​	Braiger​	Raijin-Oh​	VR Temjin​
Shinka Gattai Daizyuzin​	Yatterwan​	Doronjo​	Optimus Prime​	Megatron​	MEGAS XLR​

 

[Infinity Sorcerer]

What if Capcom made a Super Robot Wars fighting game in the mid-2000’s?​

Dygenguar​	Blodia​	Super-8​	PTX 40-A​	RX-78-2 Gundam	MSN-04 Sazabi​
MS-06 Zaku II​	Mazinger Z​	Getter-1​	Evangelion Unit-02​	VF-1S Valkyrie​	Daimos​
Zambot 3​	Dunbine​	ATM-09-ST Scopedog​	Braiger​	Raijin-Oh​	VR Temjin​
Shinka Gattai Daizyuzin​	Yatterwan​	Doronjo​	Optimus Prime​	Megatron​	MEGAS XLR​

Whiy Eva-02 over 01 btw

 

[Perkilator]

Whiy Eva-02 over 01 btw

Fixed

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

What if Capcom made a Super Robot Wars fighting game in the mid-2000’s?​

Dygenguar​	Blodia​	Super-8​	PTX 40-A​	RX-78-2 Gundam	MSN-04 Sazabi​
MS-06 Zaku II​	Mazinger Z​	Getter-1​	Evangelion Unit-01​	VF-1S Valkyrie​	Daimos​
Zambot 3​	Dunbine​	ATM-09-ST Scopedog​	Braiger​	Raijin-Oh​	VR Temjin​
Shinka Gattai Daizyuzin​	Yatterwan​	Doronjo​	Optimus Prime​	Megatron​	MEGAS XLR​

You had me at Megas XLR.

 

[Geno Boost]

super smash bros villain

			King Boo			Skull Kid	Dark Link
	Deoxys	Marx	Daroach		Porky	Black Shadow	Black Knight	Dracula	Pyramid Head
Dr. Eggman	Sigma	Akuma		Nightmare (Soul Calibur)		Space Invaders		Diablo	CATS (Zero Wing)

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

Rumic World Brawlers

Lum	Ataru	Shinobu	Mendou	Ten	Cherry	Sakura	Ran	Rei	Ryunosuke
Benten	Oyuki	Kurama	Ryoko	Tobimaro	Asuka	Kotatsu	Mr. Fujinami	Mr. Invader	Megane
Ranma	Genma	Akane	Ryoga	Shampoo	Happosai	Soun	Nabiki	Mousse	Tatewani
Kodachi	Ukyo	Cologne	Pantyhose Taro	Nodoka	Kasumi	Principal Kuno	Hinako	Tofu Ono	Tsubasa
Inuyasha	Kagome	Shippo	Miroku	Sango	Kirara	Sesshomaru	Kikyo	Jaken	Rin
Koga	Naraku	Towa	Setsuna	Moroha	Hisui	Kirinmaru	Rion	Kyuki	Tokotsu
Rinne	Sakura Mamiya	Rokumon	Tamako	Masato	Mao	Nanoka	Otoya	Uozumi	Renji
Yusaku	Kyoko	Hanae	Yotsuya	Akemi	Yuta	Mana	Masato	Misa	Yukie
	Kosaku	Sister Angela	Pitto the Penguin	Yukari	Maris	Yuzuru Shiga	Suzuko	Rumiko Takahashi

Yes, I pulled out all the stops for a Rumiko Takahashi fighting game. Outside the obvious picks, who would you choose to play as?

 

[FazDude]

So tonight I had a weird train of thought - What if Smash 64 had double its slots?

I tried to get as many fan-favorite characters in as possible while also staying true to what I think Sakurai/Nintendo would have done in the context of 1999 (meaning no characters that debuted beyond that year). To get into specifics...

• Third-parties as a whole were excluded - Even Rare stuff (even if they would probably one of the first companies Nintendo would have gone with). Considering the circumstances surrounding Smash 64's development and release, I find it unlikely Nintendo would reach out to any other companies.
• Bowser, King Dedede, Mewtwo, and Marth are the big four Smash 64 scrappies - Getting them in was priority number one.
• While Wario is best known for just falling short of Melee's roster, I feel like Sakurai would push for him to be in 64 should he have had more roster space to work with.
• Zelda wouldn't be able to transform into Sheik due to hardware limitations.
• Ganondorf would still be a Falcon clone, but a little less so compared to his Melee counterpart.
• Dark Matter was chosen over any other Kirby character (sans Dedede) due to The Crystal Shards being in development at the time. Plus, Meta Knight wasn't as heavily involved with Kirby during the buildup to 64 than Brawl.
• Falco is an easy Fox clone.
• Ayumi Tachibana was considered for Melee, but I let her in anyway for similar reasons as Wario.
• I wanted to have a NES rep here somewhere, but I don't think the Ice Climbers would have been feasible. As such, Little Mac was chosen since I figured you could port over a lot of moves from other fighters (Mario and Falcon come to mind), making him easier to develop.
• Finally, while Mr. Game & Watch is just a cool idea in general, he'd be fairly easy to develop too, since Smash 64 already used PNGs for a number of important gameplay items. Just make him a PNG-animated fighter!

Honorable mention to King K. Rool - I'd argue he'd make sense due to DK64 being in development at the time, but I wanted a NES rep and K. Rool felt like the most "self-indulgent" pick, so out he went in favor of Little Mac.

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

So tonight I had a weird train of thought - What if Smash 64 had double its slots?

I tried to get as many fan-favorite characters in as possible while also staying true to what I think Sakurai/Nintendo would have done in the context of 1999 (meaning no characters that debuted beyond that year). To get into specifics...

• Third-parties as a whole were excluded - Even Rare stuff (even if they would probably one of the first companies Nintendo would have gone with). Considering the circumstances surrounding Smash 64's development and release, I find it unlikely Nintendo would reach out to any other companies.
• Bowser, King Dedede, Mewtwo, and Marth are the big four Smash 64 scrappies - Getting them in was priority number one.
• While Wario is best known for just falling short of Melee's roster, I feel like Sakurai would push for him to be in 64 should he have had more roster space to work with.
• Zelda wouldn't be able to transform into Sheik due to hardware limitations.
• Ganondorf would still be a Falcon clone, but a little less so compared to his Melee counterpart.
• Dark Matter was chosen over any other Kirby character (sans Dedede) due to The Crystal Shards being in development at the time. Plus, Meta Knight wasn't as heavily involved with Kirby during the buildup to 64 than Brawl.
• Falco is an easy Fox clone.
• Ayumi Tachibana was considered for Melee, but I let her in anyway for similar reasons as Wario.
• I wanted to have a NES rep here somewhere, but I don't think the Ice Climbers would have been feasible. As such, Little Mac was chosen since I figured you could port over a lot of moves from other fighters (Mario and Falcon come to mind), making him easier to develop.
• Finally, while Mr. Game & Watch is just a cool idea in general, he'd be fairly easy to develop too, since Smash 64 already used PNGs for a number of important gameplay items. Just make him a PNG-animated fighter!

Honorable mention to King K. Rool - I'd argue he'd make sense due to DK64 being in development at the time, but I wanted a NES rep and K. Rool felt like the most "self-indulgent" pick, so out he went in favor of Little Mac.

The end result makes me wish this actually happened. I'd imagine Rare characters would be a higher priority for Melee though, with most of the big-names coming much sooner.

Of course the four that got away would be first to get in this twice-as-big lineup, but the other characters have great reasons as well.

• Wario, alongside DK and Yoshi, could be classified unofficially as Mario Party reps, which could be a reason to include this guy in the first entry.
• I may actually enjoy a non-transforming Zelda and a cloned Ganon if they were in the N64 game. Maybe Sheik can get her own slot for the debut, while Ganondorf can start his process of a unique moveset earlier.
• Frankly, if we did get three Kirby reps in this game, I can understand wanting to skip a generation before another character from Pop Star is added.
• Maybe Slippy and Peppy can be Assist Trophies in this instance? Heck, why not have the Assist item debut in Melee this time?
• Knowing how Smash helped bring Fire Emblem to the West, I can see the Famicom Detective Club getting some more Western appreciation thanks to Ayumi. Or not, but that's another story.
• I think Little Mac still had some relevance in 1999, despite him being classified as an "NES rep". The same goes with Pit and the Duck Hunt Dog, actually. Perhaps the Icies can still get in Melee, if the practice of doubling the real-world roster continues. Please?
• Mr. Game and Watch being a 64 veteran would increase his initial surprise, and his fan reception at the same time.
• And if you plan on doing a 52-character Melee roster, K. Rool is probably getting in 17 years earlier knowing his HM status.

However, there is one drawback to a 24-character roster: There's a greater chance of some characters being expendable if we get a reboot.

All in all, I might concoct something like this myself.

 

[FazDude]

The end result makes me wish this actually happened. I'd imagine Rare characters would be a higher priority for Melee though, with most of the big-names coming much sooner.

Of course the four that got away would be first to get in this twice-as-big lineup, but the other characters have great reasons as well.

• Wario, alongside DK and Yoshi, could be classified unofficially as Mario Party reps, which could be a reason to include this guy in the first entry.
• I may actually enjoy a non-transforming Zelda and a cloned Ganon if they were in the N64 game. Maybe Sheik can get her own slot for the debut, while Ganondorf can start his process of a unique moveset earlier.
• Frankly, if we did get three Kirby reps in this game, I can understand wanting to skip a generation before another character from Pop Star is added.
• Maybe Slippy and Peppy can be Assist Trophies in this instance? Heck, why not have the Assist item debut in Melee this time?
• Knowing how Smash helped bring Fire Emblem to the West, I can see the Famicom Detective Club getting some more Western appreciation thanks to Ayumi. Or not, but that's another story.
• I think Little Mac still had some relevance in 1999, despite him being classified as an "NES rep". The same goes with Pit and the Duck Hunt Dog, actually. Perhaps the Icies can still get in Melee, if the practice of doubling the real-world roster continues. Please?
• Mr. Game and Watch being a 64 veteran would increase his initial surprise, and his fan reception at the same time.
• And if you plan on doing a 52-character Melee roster, K. Rool is probably getting in 17 years earlier knowing his HM status.

However, there is one drawback to a 24-character roster: There's a greater chance of some characters being expendable if we get a reboot.

All in all, I might concoct something like this myself.

Glad you enjoyed! I'm not currently planning to do a Melee roster with this as a base (and even then, I'd probably go with 36 fighters or something), but it might be fun to do later down the line.

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

Glad you enjoyed! I'm not currently planning to do a Melee roster with this as a base (and even then, I'd probably go with 36 fighters or something), but it might be fun to do later down the line.

Alright. That's fair.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

A personal in-joke that's been floating in my head for a while
Howie Mandel vs. Noel Edmonds: Clash of The Bankers

1. Howie Mandel
2. Noel Edmonds
3. Gizmo
4. Mr. Blobby
5. Robert "Bobo" Shand
6. The Stig
7. Bobby Generic
8. 5G Tower/Wind Turbine (stance fighter)
9. The Sandman
10. The 10 Year Old You May Be Smarter Than
11. Mr. Myxlplyx
12. 2000s Crinkly Bottom Vandals (look, there's really not much to work with on the Edmonds side of things, he's not an actor)

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

A personal in-joke that's been floating in my head for a while
Howie Mandel vs. Noel Edmonds: Clash of The Bankers

1. Howie Mandel
2. Noel Edmonds
3. Gizmo
4. Mr. Blobby
5. Robert "Bobo" Shand
6. The Stig
7. Bobby Generic
8. 5G Tower/Wind Turbine (stance fighter)
9. The Sandman
10. The 10 Year Old You May Be Smarter Than
11. Mr. Myxlplyx
12. 2000s Crinkly Bottom Vandals (look, there's really not much to work with on the Edmonds side of things, he's not an actor)

Something tells me Howie Mandel outmatches Noel Edmonds.

On one side, we have Gizmo, Bobby Generic, and Mr. Myxlplyx. On the other side, the biggest name here is Mr. Blobby.

It's no contest. Mandel over Edmonds in a heartbeat.

 

[Pupp135]

So tonight I had a weird train of thought - What if Smash 64 had double its slots?

I tried to get as many fan-favorite characters in as possible while also staying true to what I think Sakurai/Nintendo would have done in the context of 1999 (meaning no characters that debuted beyond that year). To get into specifics...

• Third-parties as a whole were excluded - Even Rare stuff (even if they would probably one of the first companies Nintendo would have gone with). Considering the circumstances surrounding Smash 64's development and release, I find it unlikely Nintendo would reach out to any other companies.
• Bowser, King Dedede, Mewtwo, and Marth are the big four Smash 64 scrappies - Getting them in was priority number one.
• While Wario is best known for just falling short of Melee's roster, I feel like Sakurai would push for him to be in 64 should he have had more roster space to work with.
• Zelda wouldn't be able to transform into Sheik due to hardware limitations.
• Ganondorf would still be a Falcon clone, but a little less so compared to his Melee counterpart.
• Dark Matter was chosen over any other Kirby character (sans Dedede) due to The Crystal Shards being in development at the time. Plus, Meta Knight wasn't as heavily involved with Kirby during the buildup to 64 than Brawl.
• Falco is an easy Fox clone.
• Ayumi Tachibana was considered for Melee, but I let her in anyway for similar reasons as Wario.
• I wanted to have a NES rep here somewhere, but I don't think the Ice Climbers would have been feasible. As such, Little Mac was chosen since I figured you could port over a lot of moves from other fighters (Mario and Falcon come to mind), making him easier to develop.
• Finally, while Mr. Game & Watch is just a cool idea in general, he'd be fairly easy to develop too, since Smash 64 already used PNGs for a number of important gameplay items. Just make him a PNG-animated fighter!

Honorable mention to King K. Rool - I'd argue he'd make sense due to DK64 being in development at the time, but I wanted a NES rep and K. Rool felt like the most "self-indulgent" pick, so out he went in favor of Little Mac.

This is a pretty cool roster. For fun, I’ll make my attempt at an SSB roster with twice as many slots.

Ganon

(Solo) Lip
Secret fighters: Lip

Spoiler: Reasons

For fun, I’ll also make a roster where SSB started on the Gamecube instead of N64, and I’ll allow myself to come up with ideas that were used in Melee.
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Secret Fighters: ()

Spoiler: Reasons

 

[ssbashworld]

Heres my doubled N64 roster

With Rare


(Rash) (Orchid) (J-Bomb)



Without Rare add

Caroline (Nintendo Wars)
Ayumi

Lip

 

[SmasherMaster]

Spell Sprawl: Only Magic Users

1. Merlin (Arthurian Legend)
2. Hecate (Greek Myths)
3. Alex Russo (Wizards of Waverly Place)
   1. Justin Russo (Wizard of Waverly Place) {Echo}
4. Luz Noceda (Owl House)
5. Eda Clawthorne (Owl House)
6. Gandolf the Grey (Lord of the Rings)
   1. Gandolf the White (Lord of the Rings) {Echo}
7. Zantana (DC)
8. John Constantine (DC)
9. Dr Strange (Marvel)
10. Scarlet Witch (Marvel)
11. Fairy Godmother (Shrek)
12. Matilda (Matilda)
13. Bruno Madrigal (Encanto)
14. Great Gazoo (Flintstones)
15. Sabrina (Sabrina the Teenage Witch)
16. Jeanie (I Dream Of Jeanie)
17. Imhotep (The Mummy)
18. Witch Hazel (Looney Tunes)
19. She-Ra (She-Ra)
20. He-Man (He-Man)
21. Bayonetta (Bayonetta)
22. Zelda (Legend Of Zelda)
23. Ursula (Little Mermaid)

 

[HyperSomari64]

Spell Sprawl: Only Magic Users

1. Merlin (Arthurian Legend)
2. Hecate (Greek Myths)
3. Alex Russo (Wizards of Waverly Place)
   1. Justin Russo (Wizard of Waverly Place) {Echo}
4. Luz Noceda (Owl House)
5. Eda Clawthorne (Owl House)
6. Gandolf the Grey (Lord of the Rings)
   1. Gandolf the White (Lord of the Rings) {Echo}
7. Zantana (DC)
8. John Constantine (DC)
9. Dr Strange (Marvel)
10. Scarlet Witch (Marvel)
11. Fairy Godmother (Shrek)
12. Matilda (Matilda)
13. Bruno Madrigal (Encanto)
14. Great Gazoo (Flintstones)
15. Sabrina (Sabrina the Teenage Witch)
16. Jeanie (I Dream Of Jeanie)
17. Imhotep (The Mummy)
18. Witch Hazel (Looney Tunes)
19. She-Ra (She-Ra)
20. He-Man (He-Man)
21. Bayonetta (Bayonetta)
22. Zelda (Legend Of Zelda)
23. Ursula (Little Mermaid)

Are Akko or Ursula/Shiny Chariot from Little Witch Academia going to be DLC?

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

Are Akko or Ursula/Shiny Chariot from Little Witch Academia going to be DLC?

If so, then we already have the perfect rivals for them through Luz and Disney's Ursula.

 

[KneeOfJustice99]

Hmm... what if a Vento Aureo fighting game were to be made in a similar style to the original Heritage for the Future (which was based more on Part 3)?

Here's my own take - an admittedly strange mix, but in my opinion, a solid one. I should probably explain them!

1. Giorno Giovanna. Do I really need to explain this one? Giorno's your average jack of all trades. Obviously his super has him use GER.
2. Bruno Bucciarati. Again, this should be kind of obvious. That said, Bruno could be a little more mechanically complex and ranged.
3. Leone Abbacchio. Moody Blues could be used to create "copies" of Abbacchio's and his opponent's attacks to be played back?
4. Guido Mista. haha 4th character. Also a solid ranged pick could work here, think a little like Hol Horse in the original.
5. Narancia Ghirga. Using Aerosmith could be pretty fun as a ranged option, but Narancia could also just stab you.
6. Pannacotta Fugo. Purple Haze obviously lends well to AoE attacks and poison effects.
7. Trish Una. With Spice Girl. There's not as much to work with, but she's still important and undeniably cool.
8. Jean Pierre Polnareff. Specifically his Part 5 form, meaning he's in the wheelchair but Silver Chariot partially makes up for that.
9. Jotaro Kujo. Yes I know he's only seen for like five panels in the part but it's ****ing Jotaro how could we not include him.
10. Koichi Hirose. Hey, he'd be fun! I'd say he should switch between ACTs though, as opposed to only using ACT 3.
11. Leaky-Eye Luca. Imagine winning a tournament with Luca. Also, his shovel has a lot of potential if I'm honest.
12. Sale. A more unusual zoner compared to Mista, and also one who can like, walk in the air. He'd be fun.
13. Melone. I say "Melone" but in truth it's actually Baby Face with Melone in the background on his computer.
14. Prosciutto & Pesci. It'd be neat if Pesci is more of a "summon" for Prosciutto?
15. Ghiaccio. IT'S CALLED A QUARTER CIRCLE INPUT, NOT A ****ING HADOUKEN INPUT, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
16. Risotto Nero. Pretty obvious pick here. Not 100% sure how to handle his invisibility, though.
17. Squalo. Hey, Clash is cool okay? That said, him being a weird mid-range pick would be fun too.
18. Cioccolata & Secco. I like the idea of you more actively using both of them rather than with the other duo who moreso work like summons.
19. Vinegar Doppio. Think of Doppio being like Shadow DIO in HFTF. He's functionally a different character to Diavolo though.
20. Diavolo. Obviously. As for how to work Epitaph, I'm not 100% sure, but you could have "teleport" moves kind of like DIO or something.

Yes, there's a few characters missing, but I think I've covered most of the bases here. Not only that, but some of them would appear in story modes (for instance, Zucchero would be in Sale's story mode, and opponents like Black Sabbath or Notorious B.I.G. would make solid bosses.)

 

[FazDude]

Here it is. My 126-man Celebration of Gaming History roster. I am never doing anything like this again.

Spoiler: Full List

 

[HyperSomari64]

Here it is. My 126-man Celebration of Gaming History roster. I am never doing anything like this again.

Spoiler: Full List

Charles (the mouse) seems like a weird, yet fitting choice for a character that didn't come from a video game, considering that the restaurants had arcades.

My litte gripe it's that is a little redundant that Freddy Fazbear and he are in the same room, but i think they would have different movesets despite of their similar concepts.

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

Here it is. My 126-man Celebration of Gaming History roster. I am never doing anything like this again.

Spoiler: Full List

Oh, the memes spawning from pro gameplay of this title are going to be endless.

However, I am surprised your one fourth-party character to close out this game is Chuck E. Cheese, of all mascots. I get why, due to him and the Atari 2600 sharing the same creator, but I would have gone with Popeye or Scrooge McDuck myself.

One nitpick, though. Putting Isabelle in the game as though she debuted in the original Animal Crossing is the one chronological outlier I can spot. I'd put her approximately between #108 and #119.

Still, this is a great lineup.

 

[FazDude]

One nitpick, though. Putting Isabelle in the game as though she debuted in the original Animal Crossing is the one chronological outlier I can spot. I'd put her approximately between #108 and #119.

I mean, that's not the only case of that in the roster - Dragonborn, Cloud, and Erdrick have similar things going on. Glad you like the roster as a whole, though!

 

[Champion of Hyrule]

Here it is. My 126-man Celebration of Gaming History roster. I am never doing anything like this again.

Spoiler: Full List

I’m kinda curious why paimon is the one genshin character. I admire not just using the traveler but paimon is like the one character who doesnt fight in the game

 

[FazDude]

I’m kinda curious why paimon is the one genshin character. I admire not just using the traveler but paimon is like the one character who doesnt fight in the game

I'd imagine Paimon summons other Genshin characters to fight.

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

I mean, that's not the only case of that in the roster - Dragonborn, Cloud, and Erdrick have similar things going on. Glad you like the roster as a whole, though!

Well, I can excuse those three cases because The Elder Scrolls, Final Fantasy, and Dragon Quest have a lot of protagonists to choose from here, and Dragonborn, Cloud, and Erdrick happen to be the breakout protagonists of their respective franchises.

Contrast that to Isabelle, who I feel not even she stacks up to Villager as an Animal Crossing rep, mascot status be darned.

Just my specific opinion.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

Here it is. My 126-man Celebration of Gaming History roster. I am never doing anything like this again.

Spoiler: Full List

I really like this 126-character roster. Although a Flash game rep would make sense here somehow, considering that flash/browser games were part of indie game history (not complaining tho).

(Also including Guybrush and R.O.B seems really based)