Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[PhantomX]

Yeah... guess if they ban OP Shen I can just go Lanewick and murder everything.

 

[fkacyan]

Yeah... guess if they ban OP Shen I can just go Lanewick and murder everything.

That's how it's been for me. Actually aside from one game where a duo queue went afk in champ select and random'd champs I've won every game I've played today.

 

[DarkDragoon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaR3eyVRoH8

LOOOOOOOOOOOOoL
-DD

 

[fkacyan]

Dyrus' and friends' antics are kinda old to me now, they're on /v/ allll the ****in time.

Despite this, I laughed pretty hard at that one.

EDIT: New Ryze skin?

Spoiler

 

[adumbrodeus]

TSM fans are creepy as hell. And I thought the whole smash thing with everyone calling DEHF larry even if they've never met the guy was creepy, but no, I didn't even know what creepy was. TSM fans take it to a whole nother level.

 

[fkacyan]

The more I watch matches with her and play her, the less I think the Ahri nerf actually did.

On another note, all they need to do is buff Amumu a bit and the holy trifecta of tank banning will be back.

 

[DMG]

Tank Gankers

 

[adumbrodeus]

Well, Shen is best as a Tanky dps now I think.

 

[fkacyan]

Well, Shen is best as a Tanky dps now I think.

Shen can go pure tank, tanky DPS, AP / AS (This is actually pretty terrifying in Dominion), or

Spoiler

support

.

I had to do that last one earlier tonight and it went excessively well.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Oh god, I wanna do that now. I'll use my taric runes.


Edit: Had an amusing thought, Shen as a melee carry. Shadow dash as a gapcloser/damage output decreaser and relie on the insane amounts of lifesteal from the combination of procing vorpal and 1000+ hp crits with a bloodthirster and of course max AS.

 

[DallasPhat]

Dude nah, leave ahri as she is.... .

 

[ArcNatural]

I'm horrible at League maths so feel free to correct this. Just for the lulz going for Max bonus HP for Shen at lvl 1.

flat Runes+quints = 181.41, veteran scars + 30, and Doran's Shield +120 = 331.41 bonus health. Not sure how it rounds.

This means that Ki strike at level 1 should hit for +33 dmg on top of his base which is 54.5 for a total of 87.5 dmg.

Also his Vorpal Blade at level 1 would be 6 + 2% of max hp. Which would be I think 428 base + 331.41 = 759.41 hp. So you would heal for 6+15hp at level 1.

Am I even close on any of this League math? My first attempt. Other than the patch notes I got the rune/quint + Shen base stats from the LoL website.

 

[jpak]

jpak has his mind on dat money

did you play your finals yet?

No, it's Thursday night at 10:30 pm EST/9:30 pm CST

 

[Fragger]

No, it's Thursday night at 10:30 pm EST/9:30 pm CST

What team are you playing against?

EDIT: I also played the new shen yesterday and I could not get knocked out of lane. I was laning with a Teemo.

 

[Ussi]

The more I watch matches with her and play her, the less I think the Ahri nerf actually did.

On another note, all they need to do is buff Amumu a bit and the holy trifecta of tank banning will be back.

Her damage is the same. All they did was say "Ahri, wait 10 more seconds before you wreck face"

 

[@TKbreezy]

Attack Speed Reds, ArPen Reds, Flat Armor Seals, Flat/Scaling MRes Glyphs

21/0/9 with all physical **** in offensive and mana/level, movespeed, buff duration in utility.

Flash Ignite

Open Cloth -> wriggles + tabi -> HoG/Phage/Wit's as deemed necessary (to keep winning as hard as possible, recurve -> phage -> wit's, but if you can sneak HoG in there, do so, as Omen very important for Xin's lategame viability). Get Mallet or Triforce next, depending on your teams tanking needs, then tank way the **** out.

is this for Jungle Xin?....I need to learn a new jungler because my Riven jungle skills have definitely dropped.

and do you mean Attack Speed Quints?

whats the Jungle Xin route anyway?

 

[Ussi]

Believe thats counter Yorick Xin

 

[PhantomX]

Pretty sure that Xin setup can be used universally, and jungle Xin can do any route he wants, though obviously you probably want to do buff + quick 2 > gank.

 

[fkacyan]

Dude nah, leave ahri as she is.... .

I see you and your match history, gtfo

 

[Ussi]

But seriously, leave Ahri as she is

 

[Lovage]

new shen is the dumbest **** i've ever seen in this game

 

[fkacyan]

new shen is the dumbest **** i've ever seen in this game

Way overbuffed. We'll see number tweaks.

It's like Riot learned balancing from the WoW team.

 

[UTDZac]

new shen is the dumbest **** i've ever seen in this game

You should have seen release shen... or release xin zhao... or release tf

o.o

 

[Dojo]

Wtf Zac, you weren't even here for those.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ahri nerfs is just a small nuisance, if anything it will teach people to throw in a charm or fox fire in the spirit rushes for more damage when chasing.

 

[UTDZac]

I've heard Froggen maxes W first on Ahri. Is this right?

 

[fkacyan]

I'd believe it; low mana cost, high damage, low cooldown, and all you have to do is be near them.

EDIT: Release Shen wouldn't honestly be that terrifying in the current meta. 35 champions ago, sure.

 

[ArcNatural]

I've heard Froggen maxes W first on Ahri. Is this right?

Yeah I've been maxing W over Q a lot lately, with your ult at 6 it's just way stronger than Q imo.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I've heard Froggen maxes W first on Ahri. Is this right?

It might be better for chases and harassing in some respects.

Q is better for poking over minions in mid though.

 

[solecalibur]

I've heard Froggen maxes W first on Ahri. Is this right?

Like red ryu said , you don't want to be maxing w if your against a long range champ on the other hand vs say trynd you might wana make w.

 

[Ussi]

I like leveling Ahri's W first.. but then its harder to farm imo as Q is the best farming skill Ahri has. I tend to level depending on who i'm laning against. Someone who i can harass with W easily I'll level W first. If i plan to just farm, then i level Q.

Gonna try doing orb to lvl 3 then max fox fire then charm then the rest of orb.

 

[Hylian]

Maxing w is for people bad at skillshots. You shouldnt be close enough to your opponent to conistantly harass them with w and you have more damage with orb if you hit both parts.





lol maxing w isn't really bad just being a devils advocate.

 

[Vyke]

I wish people would quit picking Caitlyn.

 

[Deleted member]

i love it when people pick cait because 1 mistake bot lane = their ad carry (cait) is much more useless than ours

 

[Lovage]

I wish people would quit picking Caitlyn.

cait is still a good ad but she's also a noob hero so 99% of cait players suck ****

 

[Ussi]

Maxing w is for people bad at skillshots. You shouldnt be close enough to your opponent to conistantly harass them with w and you have more damage with orb if you hit both parts.





lol maxing w isn't really bad just being a devils advocate.

I'll admit this is one of the reasons i tried levelin W first, but it was mainly because the mana cost is constant leveling it up.

 

[jpak]

cait requires a decent amount of skill to take advantage of her skill set, i've only seen may be 2 players play her well. but ya 99% of them suck

 

[UTDZac]

cait requires a decent amount of skill to take advantage of her skill set, i've only seen may be 2 players play her well. but ya 99% of them suck

Thanks Jpak.

 

[Arcansi]

Not only are the facts you're presenting wrong, they're egregiously wrong. Anyone with any knowledge of what ranges look like should have some idea how absurd 1500 range blinding dart sounds. On top of that, you're blindly stating that AP spec makes sense on Teemo without any discussion of why that would be the case, other than saying that he gets to nuke with blinding dart for like 90 damage or something at level 1. Do you have any idea how many characters would also be godly if all it took to be a godly level 1 bully was a 90 damage nuke at level 1?

I do note that I was badly wrong on the range comparison, but I barely looked at it + I haven't played league in a good bit, so forgive me.

This is of course, under the assumption that he can't get hit back by whoever he is facing.

And under this assumption, even a 90 damage lv 1 nuke will beat most anyone. Also note that I stated it might be possible to beat Yorick with it, assuming that he won't get hit back by ghouls when he blinding darts.

Some tastes are just wrong. Namely ponies. Your likes have ruined the internets and I can never forgive you for it.

Haters gonna hate. How have we ruined the internet in any way?

EDIT: This is also a huge generalization, making it most likely false, among other things.

If you're relying on Magic damage with Teemo you're doing it wrong. He has 1 nuke with mediocre scaling and range, and an on-hit modifier with 0.35 AP scaling over 5 seconds. Since AD scales at about 0.5 AD/1 AP, AD is more efficient on your auto-attacks and really that's all there is to laning with Teemo. Also, ArPen is like over 50% more efficient than MPen on runes and base armor values are lower than base mres values. He's about abusing move speed and the base damage on toxic shot to produce repeated harass, not to trade burst, because well, everyone else trades burst better.

.8 is solid scaling, for one. Also, the on-hit has a .14 scaling, and procs 5 times. This means it effectively scales .7 per autoattack. It's still less then 1 AD, but even therainman has said that early AP runes might be viable, and I was suggesting it as a counterpick to Yorick, not as an overall build.

I don't know a lot about teemo, but I do know that you wouldn't want to trade burst. That's why I've said multiple times if yorick can land his ghouls when you blinding dart, you won't win.

exactly. the internet is supposed to be a harsh and unforgiving place full of trolls and assorted douchebags. we have no time for friendship and kindness.

Neo-sincerity still unknown and underappreciated.

S'ok.

 

[Leacero]

And under this assumption, even a 90 damage lv 1 nuke will beat most anyone. Also note that I stated it might be possible to beat Yorick with it, assuming that he won't get hit back by ghouls when he blinding darts.

A 90 damage level 1 spell isn't that much.