Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Deleted member]

K Rool won the Ballot. Either that or one of the veterans (Snake?), which probably gave Sakurai the idea to bring everyone back.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

One last thing from me, for now.

Doesn't it seem peculiar that Partner Showcases would end for now two months short of the years' end? It's not like there would be a complete lack of third parties wanting their releases shown off, so Nintendo might be readying up some news of their own.

In regards to the Bayonetta thing, the wording implied that they really weren't in a position to add hardcore fan wishes at the time, so they checked if a fighter they were working on was in the ballot, went "close enough" and the rest was history. Between fans wanting a "winner", and the staff only leaving the "choices might be considered for future Smash sequels" fine print on the Japanese site of the ballot, the whole thing was a misunderstanding on all sides (especially the whole suggestion box poll = voting ballot thing).

 

[Tree Gelbman]

K Rool won the Ballot. Either that or one of the veterans (Snake?), which probably gave Sakurai the idea to bring everyone back.

If I recall correctly the idea to bring everyone back was actually one of the last conversations that Sakurai and Iwata had together. It was essentially as much about pleasing fans by bringing everyone back and honoring his friend and the legacy they had working on the series together.

 

[Oracle Link]

Im curious you Geno Fans do you also like Mallow and if yes how should he be involved in a potential Geno Character?

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

Im curious you Geno Fans do you also like Mallow and if yes how should he be involved in a potential Geno Character?

I like Mallow and if he was incorporated into Geno's moveset I think it'd be with grabs and final smash. Mallow has stretchy arms so he could pop out and use them as a tether grab and then assist with throws like Toad does with Peach.

I can understand why some people don't want that because tether grabs tend to suck unless your name is Luigi.

 

[Enigma735]

Im curious you Geno Fans do you also like Mallow and if yes how should he be involved in a potential Geno Character?

Personally, I like Mallow. He has a cool back story and he has some fun moves. I just don't find him to be as cool or likeable as Geno. Geno was a character that really resonated with a lot of people and its why many of us wanna see Geno return, so he can get his a$$ back home. To answer your second question, I really don't think they should be a tag team, especially if its an Ice Climbers-esque tag team. If its Pokemon Trainer-esque then I guess that would be cool, but then at that point you might as well make Mallow a separate character, and I also don't think Sakurai wants to put the extra work in to making two fighters at once. I think Mallow could work best as a taunt, cameo in Geno's stage, or a part of Geno's victory animations, but I don't think Mallow should share the same slot as Geno.

 

[Oracle Link]

How about having one Mallow Special?

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

How about having one Mallow Special?

He could use his weather powers to assist with recovery. Basically Revali's Gale but with an adorable cream puff instead of a snarky bird ghost.

 

[QQS]

Personally, I like Mallow. He has a cool back story and he has some fun moves. I just don't find him to be as cool or likeable as Geno. Geno was a character that really resonated with a lot of people and its why many of us wanna see Geno return, so he can get his a$$ back home. To answer your second question, I really don't think they should be a tag team, especially if its an Ice Climbers-esque tag team. If its Pokemon Trainer-esque then I guess that would be cool, but then at that point you might as well make Mallow a separate character, and I also don't think Sakurai wants to put the extra work in to making two fighters at once. I think Mallow could work best as a taunt, cameo in Geno's stage, or a part of Geno's victory animations, but I don't think Mallow should share the same slot as Geno.

I also love Mallow but think this too. He can work fine also as part of Final Smash helping Geno, like Mega Legends.

 

[MisterMike]

Im curious you Geno Fans do you also like Mallow and if yes how should he be involved in a potential Geno Character?

Mallow's cool. He's a nice little ray of sunshine and while his arc is pretty basic, it's still done very effectively.

How about having one Mallow Special?

If they're to incorporate Mallow anywhere in Geno's moveset, it would likely either be...

1. His grab, functioning as a tether recovery,
2. One or more of his taunts, or
3. As part of his Final Smash, perhaps by using his cymbals to initiate Geno's Final Smash assuming it's a cinematic.

 

[QQS]

A premium costume of Mallow would be even better. With Geno playable im done 100%. And also I think Mallow will be a cameo or in a Move. But imagine premium costume, the MarioRPG gang complete, it will be like 101% perfection.

Of course I’m grateful only with Geno and no Premium Mallow, but who knows

 

[Trevenant]

Super easy way to shove Mallow in and just help the final smash in the long run be better despite being a glorified cinematic will be just having all SMRPG party members throw out their definitive moves. Mario uses the goddawful fireball, Mallow uses whatever his is (can't remember), Peach uses Psych Bomb (is that it's name?) and Bowser uses his which I presume is something fire based which I can't remember either and obviously finish with Geno's. If they really wanted they could add other SMRPG characters who aren't party members, like maybe it finishes with Exor slamming into them from above just to really showcase SMRPG in the modern era

 

[TooManyToastahs]

Im curious you Geno Fans do you also like Mallow and if yes how should he be involved in a potential Geno Character?

I’m in the same boat as everyone else really. If he were to show up in the game he’d probably be used in Geno’s grab animation, in a taunt, or in Geno’s final smash.

This is just my opinion here, but I think Mallow not being involved in Geno’s moveset would be a bit of a missed opportunity. He doesn’t have to be a tag team character with Geno or anything, but I think him showing up for Geno’s grab, maybe a taunt or two, and his final smash would be the perfect way to represent Geno and Mallow, without having to sacrifice any of Geno’s rad moveset potential.

Obviously I’m still gonna be over the moon if Geno gets in the game, regardless of whether or not Mallow appears in some form. But a man can dream dang it!

 

[Springwood Slasher]

Im curious you Geno Fans do you also like Mallow and if yes how should he be involved in a potential Geno Character?

I actually love Mallow just as much as Geno, and the majority of my reason for being such a strong internet advocate of Geno is in hopes that bringing attention to Geno (through the means of Smash Bros) will bring attention to SMRPG and thus bring attention to Mallow. I really want these two characters to become more canon and involved in Nintendo and Square universes (yes I realize it’s unlikely but a boy can dream...)

 

[Fatmanonice]

Ideally it would be Geno AND Mallow but in times long since forgotten by the current generations (2005), it was decreed by the Council of Elders on the Sacred Grounds once known as Nsider that it would be better for the SMRPG fanbase overall if we predominantly rallied behind one or the other. By that decree, the last 15 years of history hath been written and so we carry on the work of our foreforum fathers' will.

Based on how Sakurai has handled other characters, I feel like Mallow has a good chance of being in Geno's taunts and victory screens at the very least. If we're really lucky he'll be on the Grand Smash Tapestry and maybe be incorporated into some Geno's moves somehow.

 

[KCCHIEFS27]

“Yeah yeah she wasn’t actually that requested but Nintendo said she was so they’ll be doing it for real this time”
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It’s not happening lmao. Christ you guys complained about Byleth for Months on end and now you’re setting yourselves up for the exact same disappointment.
It’s like you didn’t learn anything

you okay bro?? Hit my DMs if you need a chill pill

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Ideally it would be Geno AND Mallow but in times long since forgotten by the current generations (2005), it was decreed by the Council of Elders on the Sacred Grounds once known as Nsider that it would be better for the SMRPG fanbase overall if we predominantly rallied behind one or the other. By that decree, the last 15 years of history hath been written and so we carry on the work of our foreforum fathers' will.

Based on how Sakurai has handled other characters, I feel like Mallow has a good chance of being in Geno's taunts and victory screens at the very least. If we're really lucky he'll be on the Grand Smash Tapestry and maybe be incorporated into some Geno's moves somehow.

Not to mention that his spirit would be near-guaranteed to get on Geno's spirit board no matter what happens. But given the precedent set by most DLC fighters thus far, I'm realistically not expecting Mallow to show up in Geno's moveset. The Timed Hits gimmick would be quite enough to implement as it is.

In any case, after all the blood, sweat and tears that have been spilt, I'd be more than content with just Geno as a SMRPG representative. Besides, I'd focus my efforts on other SE characters after that.

 

[Springwood Slasher]

Ideally it would be Geno AND Mallow but in times long since forgotten by the current generations (2005), it was decreed by the Council of Elders on the Sacred Grounds once known as Nsider that it would be better for the SMRPG fanbase overall if we predominantly rallied behind one or the other. By that decree, the last 15 years of history hath been written and so we carry on the work of our foreforum fathers' will.

Based on how Sakurai has handled other characters, I feel like Mallow has a good chance of being in Geno's taunts and victory screens at the very least. If we're really lucky he'll be on the Grand Smash Tapestry and maybe be incorporated into some Geno's moves somehow.

Okay you articulated it MUCH better than I did. This was exactly what I was trying to say

 

[MattX20]

Okay, with today basically confirmed to not have any Smash related news, it's becoming more and more apparent that next week is possibly where we'll find our golden goose.

 

[StarLight42]

you okay bro?? Hit my DMs if you need a chill pill

Hit up the entire history of Smash if you think Geno’s gonna be last, lol

 

[CannonStreak]

If anything, though he may not be first in the pass, being a wanted by Sakurai, the man himself is gonna want Geno announced ASAP. I can see that being the case.

 

[Megadoomer]

Okay, with today basically confirmed to not have any Smash related news, it's becoming more and more apparent that next week is possibly where we'll find our golden goose.

I feel like we've been saying "we'll get more news next week" for months now (though I know that's not the case since Steve was announced in either late September or early October - it just feels like it's been months since then).

I hate these periods of radio silence; it seems like (aside from Super Mario 3D World coming out and a bunch of Mario games getting removed from physical and digital storefronts) we know nothing about what Nintendo has planned going forward.

 

[JoscarGamma]

Ideally it would be Geno AND Mallow but in times long since forgotten by the current generations (2005), it was decreed by the Council of Elders on the Sacred Grounds once known as Nsider that it would be better for the SMRPG fanbase overall if we predominantly rallied behind one or the other. By that decree, the last 15 years of history hath been written and so we carry on the work of our foreforum fathers' will.

Damn, I missed that meeting, I would have voted for Mallow... Oh well, what's done is done

 

[MattX20]

I feel like we've been saying "we'll get more news next week" for months now (though I know that's not the case since Steve was announced in either late September or early October - it just feels like it's been months since then).

I hate these periods of radio silence; it seems like (aside from Super Mario 3D World coming out and a bunch of Mario games getting removed from physical and digital storefronts) we know nothing about what Nintendo has planned going forward.

The lack of transparency is frustrating, I don't disagree. But eventually, they have to give us something substantial. 4 months is too long a period for no news from them to speak of if you count all of December through March.

 

[MrJudd]

I feel like we've been saying "we'll get more news next week" for months now (though I know that's not the case since Steve was announced in either late September or early October - it just feels like it's been months since then).

I hate these periods of radio silence; it seems like (aside from Super Mario 3D World coming out and a bunch of Mario games getting removed from physical and digital storefronts) we know nothing about what Nintendo has planned going forward.

Oh look, it's a pic of me 5 years ago!
Yeah, I kinda hope that this radio silence ends soon because it's kinda unsettling... (even if it's just Smash for the moment, although I wouldn't mind a General Direct)

 

[pinshadow]

I feel like we've been saying "we'll get more news next week" for months now (though I know that's not the case since Steve was announced in either late September or early October - it just feels like it's been months since then).

I hate these periods of radio silence; it seems like (aside from Super Mario 3D World coming out and a bunch of Mario games getting removed from physical and digital storefronts) we know nothing about what Nintendo has planned going forward.

I'd be lying if I wasn't annoyed by this either (I made a post about it last week) but this is the first time in awhile where it genuinely feels like "we might actually be getting a news dump soon" We're still waiting on the Doom Eternal Switch news they said was coming this month, so that just kinda leaves Monday unless they drop it on it's own over the weekend (why). Game Awards is less than 2 weeks away so at the very least we're getting something relatively soon.

(Also Nate seems to be teasing something for next week potentially? Doesn't seem super solid on it but feels like the first time in months anyone ""notable"" has said anything.)

 

[Griselda]

Reading all of this Mallow talk before going to bed made me dream about the guy. I was playing Galaxy 2, but for some reason the Cosmic Spirit had a much larger role as a mentor-type character, and seemed to regularly shapeshift into other people for emphasis during conversations, though keeping the 'featureless cosmos' appearance.

Before one random boss, it shifted into Mallow and said something like "Really whack 'em, Mario!" And I was really surprised that nobody had noticed that ever since the game was out. I was gonna get on here to point it out, but then I woke up.

 

[YsDisciple]

Bethesda's got until Monday if their last statement on "much more information near the end of the month" on DOOM Eternal's Switch version is to actually materialize.

On another topic; the Super Mario-themed tournament is supposed to be on December 5th, correct? However, I've only seen it somewhat being announced for Japan (via the SuperMario35th twitter). Will it be held on the same day for NA? Hmm...

 

[RetrogamerMax]

K Rool won the Ballot. Either that or one of the veterans (Snake?), which probably gave Sakurai the idea to bring everyone back.

Honestly, we'll never know the true Ballot results. There could have been characters that scored higher than the veterans, Bayonetta, Ridley, K. Rool, Banjo & Kazooie, and Steve but wasn't chosen due to legal issues and Sakurai and Nintendo not being able to negotiate with said legal issue characters' rights owners. Like, it wouldn't surprise me if Sora did better on the Ballot than all these characters did because his popularity is just that far out there. Plus, I believe it would be a very bad idea for Nintendo to release the Ballot results as that would make a lot of people angry within the community and people would be attacking other fanbases of characters who are more popular than their favorites.

 

[Nazyrus]

I can't believe next week is already December. Might as well start getting Christmas presents early…

 

[MattX20]

I can't believe next week is already December. Might as well start getting Christmas presents early…

It would be a nice gift to have FP8's identity and release before December 24th, that's for sure

 

[ctt4lfecw]

It’s gonna be so weird if Geno gets revealed. Because after that I might actually be able to just relax and enjoy the rest of the characters. This must be how Ridley fans feel.

 

[Nazyrus]

Imagine we get a nutcracker alt color costume, perfect timing

 

[Zem-raj]

It’s gonna be so weird if Geno gets revealed. Because after that I might actually be able to just relax and enjoy the rest of the characters. This must be how Ridley fans feel.

Yep, you got that right.

After the years of waiting, pain, heart break, and headaches (dealing with detractors), it's great to leave the old speculation behind.

I was able to sit back and enjoy the ride in peace.

Not to say I don't care anymore, I do still have characters that I'd like to get in.

There are other characters that, while I'm not a huge (heheh) fan of, I still wouldn't mind them being in.

However, my main focus was Ridley, he's in now, so I'm not as invested into speculation anymore.

The take from this is: Patience can get rewarded.

Time will tell. 4 spots left on the pass. Is it Geno's time? We shall see.

 

[Nazyrus]

You know what Ridley reminded me of? That Sakurai got Mario killed again with the Steve reveal… what the hell sakurai lol

 

[Paraspikey]

WHAT I'M SENDING IS A MOCKUP

I think we're going to see something like this in due time.

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

You know what Ridley reminded me of? That Sakurai got Mario killed again with the Steve reveal… what the hell sakurai lol

Mario's being punished for his down throw to up tilt spam in Smash 4

 

[CannonStreak]

WHAT I'M SENDING IS A MOCKUP

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I think we're going to see something like this in due time.

Dude, don't scare us like that! I am joking, by the way.

 

[Kremling Kommander]

WHAT I'M SENDING IS A MOCKUP

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I think we're going to see something like this in due time.

As much as I want Mario other characters besides Geno, this would give me anxiety levels beyond belief and I really don’t want another Arms situation lol

 

[CannonStreak]

Still, if there is an announcement, and it has to do with the Mario anniversary, well...

Take a guess on who that character could most likely be that will be announced. Don't ask me who; just take a moment to think, okay?