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Shaya

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I'm over all disappointed in Falco still being as high as he is; feeling there should have been a tier seperating MK/Snake/Dedede/Wario and A tier, featuring Diddy, Marth, Falco, and Game and Watch.

As I firmly believe Marth is a cut above the rest below him, hell, every character in 'A tier' besides ROB he counters.

I wonder how firmly Wario hype will sustain itself in the long run, as I was pretty sure Falco hype died, yet he's still 4th in the list...
 

Vyse

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It wasn't an easy list to make.
A lot of debate towards the end of the process.

The most important thing I took from it all though is that whilst it's important to have this list to refer to, it's also important to listen to your own opinion. Your own opinion of what the tier list should look like is an amalgamation of your experience and knowledge and so you should listen to that.
 

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As I firmly believe Marth is a cut above the rest below him, hell, every character in 'A tier' besides ROB he counters.

I wonder how firmly Wario hype will sustain itself in the long run, as I was pretty sure Falco hype died, yet he's still 4th in the list...
Pssh, I can punch Marth in the face with my feet.
 

C~Dog

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Broom says Dtier is borderline, so while im all for them being in low tier for varieties sake, C tier shouldnt be in anymore. Frankly i was against having the entire bottom half of the list count as low tier anyways, cos characters like Peach, Wolf, etc always struck me as being mid tier, not low =/
 

Dekar289

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D and lower weew g and w


btw this is not a tier a list, i hope we dont use this for low tiers or anything simply because it's not a tier list, let's just use the official american one

stupid shaya i hate his face
 

Dekar289

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game and watch will dominate if you allow D of shaya's silly ranking ladder
 

Afropony

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The thing that Shaya has here is an Australian Character Rankings List, it represents how characters are doing in tournaments in Australia. It's different to the tier list.

When was anyone ever talking about using this as a tier list?
 

Shaya

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Dekar, we're talking about the american tier list, not this one lol.

edit: beated ~_~.

I use this as a 'tier list' purely to let characters like Game and Watch, who definitely shouldn't be as low as they are 'cheap' points. If someone was to use the rank list as a base for tier tournaments (as I've done in the past...) high/top tier characters that pop up get used, but luckily there's generally always a character in the same rank area that does well against them.

In this case, IIRC, Kirby, Bowser and Yoshi both do well against game and watch.

Back when I held one where Dedede was low, every man and his dog used Ice Climbers against me (IIRC, Pikachu was available too).
 

Shaya

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Updates:
- G tier temporarily in (Hi Ant!) [lol]
- Perth's in (oops)
- Links to the list of all tournaments being used for data are at the bottom of the first post.

May 2009 (5 tournaments)

= SGLP 05.09 Brawl 1vs1 08/05/09 =
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7348880&postcount=480
Entrants: 17. Entry: $9.

1 Desert Eagle (Fox, Donkey Kong)
2 Apollo (Zero Suit Samus)
3 Pokemon_legend (Meta Knight, Fox)
4 Jamage (Wolf, Falco)
5 Ruinz (Diddy Kong)
5 2SCX dave (Marth, Pikachu)
7 David s (Toon Link)
7 Chirpin (Mr. Game & Watch)

= Objection 2: Trials and Tribulations 23/05/09 =
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7446462&postcount=8
Entrants: 19. Entry: $10.

1 corpsecreate (Toon Link)
2 Richard7 (Wario, Kirby)
3 Vlade (Falco, Ice Climbers)
4 Alzi (Toon Link)
5 Jono (Marth)
5 EADP (Pit, Snake)
7 Bringer (Yoshi)
7 Chewe (Peach, Diddy)

= Autumn Smash 23/05/09 =
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7451797&postcount=667
Entrants: 36. Entry: $15.

1: Amaterasu (Meta Knight)
2: Attila (Snake)
3: SwordSaint (Meta Knight, Snake)
4: Meteor (Ness, Olimar)
5: Accelerate (ROB)
5: Jesmo (Wolf)
7: Rocko (Mr. Game & Watch)
7: Vyse (Diddy Kong)

= Stigma-B 30/05/09 =
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7494923&postcount=2536
Entrants: 35. Entry: $6.93.

1. Attila [Snake]
2. Cobalt [Meta Knight, Dedede, Snake]
3. Jei [Pit/Fox]
4. Earl [Metaknight]
5. Haydino [Mr. Game & Watch]
5. Nicks [Metaknight]
7. Khoa [Kirby, Falco, Metaknight]
7. Splice [Mr. Game & Watch]

= NO THANKS DAD! 31/05/09 =
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7505650&postcount=170
Entrants: 11. Entry: $15.

1st. Scoot (Snake, Falco)
2nd. Tedeth (wolf)
3rd. Luke (Snake)
4th. Defiled (Rob)
5th. EA (Ice Climbers, Dedede)
5th. Silfa (Donkey Kong)
7th. Jambo (Mario)
7th. Bogoron (Wario)
 

Shaya

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I could force you to see Ganon in G tier for the rest of the month Ant, if I really wanted to <3.

Let's just say someone has gone up +17 spots since last list :O (SO FAR)
 

Shaya

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Dedede's obviously the coolest character because he dosen't try to be cool. He just is :p
This man knows what he's talking about.

No other character in the history of the universe has such an uncanny resemblance to Rocky Balboa.

1. Boxing Gloves
2. Boxing Ring
3. Adoring Fans!
4. Talks in a language unknown to everyone!
5. ADRIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNIRBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
 

Attila_

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with all the talk of the tier list lately (at least in the melbourne boards), does anybody else think that australia should vote in its own tier list? we dont seem to be too closely aligned with japan or america, and have a lot of underused or just unused characters near the top of the list that we use. it doesnt make a lot of sense really...

i say we get our own tier list. opinions?
 

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It might be something to look into in the future, but at the moment Australia's player base is still relatively miniscule compared to the US and Japan.

Also, update it, Shaya! I want to see Ness jump out of his tier. =P
 
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