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rom 3- i must play your shiek..i played most of them but yours..should be funJust be really aggressive and **** him god you guys are over-complicating everything
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rom 3- i must play your shiek..i played most of them but yours..should be funJust be really aggressive and **** him god you guys are over-complicating everything
I'm not sure. I would love to see this set though.do you think i can beat kels?
cuz idk man
he looks pri goot
It's all about that thing that mango does, where he CCs it, then f-smashes you.If you spam this Falco can start doing stuff like WD back fsmash though
I should bug kels to play on Shoddy battle with me again. that was some good times.I'm not sure. I would love to see this set though.
make sure you're not trying to do it during your initial dash. you can only crouch out of a full run, not the beginning part.Sort of a dumb technical question. My running shine ~> Usmash out of shine is inconsistent because the shine seems to not come out half the time.
Am I suppose to wait for fox to crouch before he can shine or can he shine before the crouch (run animation~> crouch animation~> shine or run animation~>shine)?
Does the joystick have to go through neutral or can I slide it from forward to down?
are u saying shield dropping after shield stun into shine waveland? i cant think of that many places where it would be good but who knowsi think some of you guys should try my shine OOS idea, like raynex said maybe it's not for everyone, but it's worth a shot imo.
plus that way if you guys can all give feedback about certain situations it worked and why, vs situations it didn't work and why, that would be awesome.
Its a solid idea, but Im pretty sure ur gonna wanna shine land from a shield drop. In the event you get hit you will not lose ur second jump. and also shine landing from a shield drop is faster than actually dropping through the platform in terms of getting your shine out in the quickest way possible. I think frame wise its faster than jc shine oos because you only have to fall and you dont have to wait for the pre jump frames b4 u can shine. if you can shield drop consistently I see it being usable pretty much any time you would jc shine oos on a platform.i think some of you guys should try my shine OOS idea, like raynex said maybe it's not for everyone, but it's worth a shot imo.
plus that way if you guys can all give feedback about certain situations it worked and why, vs situations it didn't work and why, that would be awesome.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TechnoBabbleIts a solid idea, but Im pretty sure ur gonna wanna shine land from a shield drop. In the event you get hit you will not lose ur second jump. and also shine landing from a shield drop is faster than actually dropping through the platform in terms of getting your shine out in the quickest way possible. I think frame wise its faster than jc shine oos because you only have to fall and you dont have to wait for the pre jump frames b4 u can shine. if you can shield drop consistently I see it being usable pretty much any time you would jc shine oos on a platform.
haha no falco can't. find me one video where falco cc's a spaced bair into an fsmash or something and i'll find you a hundred where fox ***** falco near the ledge with fulljump aerials. fox can react to the CC and jump, anywayHe can CC spaced bairs into pretty much anything else though. For all that effort of escaping of the shine, we're left with CC: any smash and down/forward tilt. Falcos these days just hold down and good things tend to happen. Obviously we should still spam spaced bair as usual because its pretty **** safe otherwise.
Up throw uair, hit and run a lot with nair and bair shines.......laser whenever possible......if they grab di away asap cuz uthrow is pretty fast........jab usmash combos @ higher % I believe.....utilt uair can work towhat are some solid combos against jiggly puff? any advice.
Dead serious. M2k said he CAN'T shl very well but shdl is easier for him....I say more lasers more damage....but if they r approaching u and u wanna laser shl is betterI watched some m2k vids when he was laser camping against armada. I noticed that he double laser. then at times he would short laser. My question is when is it the right time to double laser and when is it the right time to short laser? any advice.
thats tru cause single laser requires holding down after u jump.i also find short hop double laser easier than single laser
I am going to respond with a quote from nihonjin:I watched some m2k vids when he was laser camping against armada. I noticed that he double laser. then at times he would short laser. My question is when is it the right time to double laser and when is it the right time to short laser? any advice.
It's impossible to tell. There are so many factors ... Just experiment for yourself.
weak bair/nair to usmash.what are some solid combos against jiggly puff? any advice.
yeah but in a general sense, it was probably a double when he felt he was safer, single when he needed to be more mobile.I am going to respond with a quote from nihonjin:
i have hit marths out of that spot using this, but i don't think they were uptilting as fast as possible, they uptilted, hit my shield, and then paused looking for me to do something, and i shield dropped and shined em.toph u seem to know the fox-falco matchup pretty well
and that shield drop might be the only offensive solution to breaking marth's utilt platform gay
guess I should have been more specific with I was referring to,yeah but in a general sense, it was probably a double when he felt he was safer, single when he needed to be more mobile.