Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-

ShroudedOne · Jul 27, 2012

Jman, M2K, and Leffen are the three Foxes that really stood/continue to stand out to me vs Peach.

PK Webb · Jul 27, 2012

Van. said:
unknown in that tier list discussion thing you said foxes necessary technicals are easier than falcos.

Do you mind expanding on that a bit?

yes unknown plz explain

unknown522 · Jul 27, 2012

Easier? When did I say that?

Edit: so I re-read the convo and I didn't didn't say that or anything close to that

Divinokage · Jul 27, 2012

ShroudedOne said:
Jman, M2K, and Leffen are the three Foxes that really stood/continue to stand out to me vs Peach.

I'd say Bam is very good vs Peach as well, I dont think any Peach other than Armada can beat him in that match-up.

PB&J · Jul 27, 2012

i just want to see colbol vs armada. they never even played in a friendly

ShroudedOne · Jul 27, 2012

I thought of Colbol too, but I didn't know if they'd played.

PK Webb · Jul 27, 2012

Divinokage said:
I'd say Bam is very good vs Peach as well, I dont think any Peach other than Armada can beat him in that match-up.

Vanz I think can do it. Vanz did beat armada in a ditto

Silent Wolf · Jul 27, 2012

armada is garbage in peach dittos. im sure bladewise would have a chance vs bam

robyextreme · Jul 27, 2012

I think bladewise has a chance against anyone.. those fakin peaches

Brookman · Jul 27, 2012

you guys are all bad. it's really upsetting to see how bad everyone still is here. except SW he's a G and invented tech skill

chillindude829 · Jul 27, 2012

shut up brookman

DerfMidWest · Jul 27, 2012

I wish i was less bad, it'd be pree cool.

kd- · Jul 27, 2012

ShroudedOne said:
KP with the posts full of truth. Which is what I sort of tried to tell you when we play, Vanir, but couldn't cause I'd sound like a condescending douche, but thinking "I want to be more aggro" isn't the right mindset to have towards this game.

.vanir said:
maybe not, but its what I'm going to do.

This is a starting point

leffen · Jul 27, 2012

I don't think Jmans/M2Ks style vs Peach would work at all against Armadas/other new peaches tbh

both of them are "retired" as fox's anyway sooooooo

Bam looks like he plays Vwins more than anything, much like Mango does with armada

Divinokage · Jul 28, 2012

robyextreme said:
I think bladewise has a chance against anyone.. those fakin peaches

I don't think he can beat me.

Brookman · Jul 28, 2012

stationary laser > chillin

PK Webb · Jul 28, 2012

leffen said:
I don't think Jmans/M2Ks style vs Peach would work at all against Armadas/other new peaches tbh

both of them are "retired" as fox's anyway sooooooo

Bam looks like he plays Vwins more than anything, much like Mango does with armada

retired or not i think its effective but please expand on y u think their campy laser shooting style wouldnt work

DerfMidWest · Jul 28, 2012

Lol M2K went fox only at a tournament i was at last weekend...

PGH Carroll · Jul 28, 2012

By fox only you mean, we used fox in wf and GFs in teams and he used all sheik/marth in singles.

DerfMidWest · Jul 29, 2012

Oh nvm, i was under the impression that he was using almost all fox...

Lanceinthepants · Jul 29, 2012

Anybody going to FC should try to hit up CunningKitsune for friendlies. Kid is mad smart but never travels.

Tero. · Jul 29, 2012

sup guys
anybody wanna watch a few matches and give me some advice?

vs Sheik
vs Marth (1)
vs Marth (2)
vs Fox

(quality is good and i hope they're at least kinda fun to watch)
pick whatever you like

I've noticed quite a few times where I mindless run in and get ***** for it
also my edgeguarding is definitely not on point
any more advice appreciated, I really need to get better

Wenbobular · Jul 29, 2012

Watched the first one vs Marth
Please grab more

unknown522 · Jul 30, 2012

Wow, I think there were no foxes in top 5 at rule 6....

Edit: Tero your vids are unwatchable

jk lol. Quality is great. Will watch when I wake up with some advice

KirbyKaze · Jul 30, 2012

unknown522 said:
Wow, I think there were no foxes in top 5 at rule 6....

Edit: Tero your vids are unwatchable

jk lol. Quality is great. Will watch when I wake up with some advice

Mango - Fox / Falco
Me - Sheik
Shroomed - Doc
PewPewYou - Marth
Bladewise - Peach
S2J - Falcon

Fox is low tier

Bones0 · Jul 30, 2012

tires don exits

PK Webb · Jul 30, 2012

Bones0 said:
tires don exits

Then what does my car roll on? The hopes and dreams of children?

Bones0 · Jul 30, 2012

PK Webb said:
Then what does my car roll on? The hopes and dreams of children?

No, that's what Melee runs on.

DerfMidWest · Jul 30, 2012

I always thought that melee was run by the tiny mexican that lives inside of the gamecube....

genkaku · Jul 30, 2012

PGH Carroll · Jul 30, 2012

PK Webb said:
Then what does my car roll on? The hopes and dreams of children?

twebb for best fox in pittsburghhhhhhh!

Sinji · Jul 30, 2012

yoooooooooooo. foooooooooooooox.

omgwtfToph · Jul 30, 2012

Now more than ever I'm convinced that what people need to improve with Fox is their punish game. I see so, so many tournament sets where Foxes will get in numerous times over the course of a stock but fail to convert the first hit into a big punish by dropping a techchase, choosing to end a combo early, not edgeguarding optimally, etc. And then the opposing Falco/Marth/Sheik/low tier gets one grab and obliterates them. Fox can kill much more effectively than most Fox players are capable of demonstrating.

I think Kirbykaze said something similar to this about Sheik a while ago (i.e. improving the punish game is one of the most direct means to better performance).

Sinji · Jul 30, 2012

And their shine spikes. People let too many shine spike opportunities slip away.

Divinokage · Jul 30, 2012

I think it's just the general attitude that may need changing, don't be afraid!! Don't play like a ***** and use every tool to your advantage. It will take creativity if you want to break out as a Fox main because everyone knows the match-up so Mr. Fox players, find new stuff!!

KirbyKaze · Jul 30, 2012

omgwtfToph said:
I think Kirbykaze said something similar to this about Sheik a while ago (i.e. improving the punish game is one of the most direct means to better performance).

Pretty much. If you do 20 damage a pop versus 40-60 damage a pop then you have to work way harder to win. And it doesn't require you play any differently in actual combat at all.

Van. · Jul 30, 2012

unknown522 said:
Easier? When did I say that?

Edit: so I re-read the convo and I didn't didn't say that or anything close to that

yo my bad, i reread it and it was just umbreon *eyeroll*

forget it

omgwtfToph · Jul 30, 2012

Divinokage said:
I think it's just the general attitude that may need changing, don't be afraid!! Don't play like a ***** and use every tool to your advantage. It will take creativity if you want to break out as a Fox main because everyone knows the match-up so Mr. Fox players, find new stuff!!

Yes EXACTLY this.

unknown522 · Jul 30, 2012

Van. said:
yo my bad, i reread it and it was just umbreon *eyeroll*

forget it

I knew it

ZeldaFreak0309 · Jul 31, 2012

Hi guys,

My set vs Kels is up from Rule 6 if anyone wants to give feedback: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PblWVYzzUbk

I ****ed up a few ledgedashes that actually ended up costing me stocks, aside from that anything else that I should take note of?

Thanks Fox bros

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