Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-

[trahhSTEEZY]

It's weird how uncertain everyone is on the top foxes. maybe a top 3 no specific order?

Probably Jman, lucky, M2k?

 

[Palpi]

Mew2king, Jman, Lucky is arguably the correct order.

 

[trahhSTEEZY]

idk, when was the last time m2k used his fox to get him any success?

 

[Palpi]

idk, when was the last time m2k used his fox to get him any success?

I was actually gonna say something like. "Well...true fox mains..then its Jman, Lucky...then a million foxes"

 

[trahhSTEEZY]

Eh, it's not a matter of if they're a 'true' fox main, playing multiple characters shouldnt remove you from a top list, i just haven't seen M2K do anything big with his fox in awhile.

lol a million foxes for 3rd? i'm pretty sure jman and lucky arent that far ahead of the rest of the good foxes out there.

 

[Brookman]

I don't understand how you have neglected to mention mango in top fox's. Although PP hasn't really shown his fox off in tournament, he's got a very keen style with fox.

 

[Palpi]

I thought we weren't saying mango.

I am not saying Lucky and Jman are THAT much better than everyone else. I just think past them, there is a lot of foxes around the same level.

 

[trahhSTEEZY]

yeah brookman, i see mango as best fox, thats why i wanted a top list without him.

 

[(*Jman*)]

ok i no mango fox is mad mad good but how can u say he is the best fox when he has never won a whole tourney with fox

i dont think he ever went fox at a big tourney or any tourney to think about it >_>

 

[trahhSTEEZY]

yeah you are right. though he did go fox at DGDTJ against hungrybox, but he lost. It's just hard not to give that fox credit when you watch it. But i do agree statistically he hasn't proven his fox really too much.

 

[(*Jman*)]

yea its hard to win a tourney with fox just because how inconsistent he is as a char

i think when im on my best witch is really rare my fox is the best to but no1 gets to see it cause its so hard to play perfect with fox he is the hardest high teir to play

 

[trahhSTEEZY]

i'm glad he is though. he's the best character, but he's also the hardest to be the best at. mastering him is somewhat an investment, takes time, get ***** alot, but in the end you raaape

 

[Evoke]

Er, which button should I be using to shine oos?
I've been using y and it works like 1/10 times

 

[L__]

learn whatever makes you most comfortable

 

[trahhSTEEZY]

You can either use x,y or up on analog stick. i personally use up on analog stick, then go back down for the shine.

 

[Brookman]

So, how many players can perform frame perfect short hop aerials on command??


loosely, I mean, how many can consistently aerial on the first airborn frame?

 

[unknown522]

who's everyone's current 'favorite' fox?

Also, who does everyone think the 'best' fox is? besides mango if you'd say him.

current favorite: M2K

best IMO: M2K

if we're only talking about mains,

then favorite: Raynex (used to be PC chris)

best IMO: Jman (closely followed by myself )

 

[ShieldBash]

ok i no mango fox is mad mad good but how can u say he is the best fox when he has never won a whole tourney with fox

i dont think he ever went fox at a big tourney or any tourney to think about it >_>

LOOL and you wouldn't of won dont go down there unless mango let you win..

 

[JPOBS]

for the record, mango won Winterfest as mostly (only?) fox.

brookman how would we know if we are doing frame perfect aerials or not?

and lol unknown522 is maad underrated <3

 

[(*Jman*)]

i guess u can say mango let me win cause he went marth and not puff/falco

when did mango go fox at winterfest i was at that tourney and did not seee him go fox or maybe i just dont remember

 

[Dark Hart]

he went fox vs hbox in gfs so people think that count since it kinda does

 

[(*Jman*)]

i really 4got about that and i was there LOL

i would really like to see mango go all fox at a big tourney and not just 2 sets.. i would like to see if he could keep up playing godly with fox because that **** is hard to do

 

[JPOBS]

its possible he only went fox in GF vs hbox, i was just thinking of him vs hbox and assumed he went fox all tourny since he usually is stubborn with his char choices

winterfest is like the tourny that didnt happen lol

 

[unknown522]

mango went puff vs jman at winterfest.

 

[Palpi]

mango went puff vs jman at winterfest.

But I am pretty sure he didnt use rest.

 

[(*Jman*)]

if u wanna get in to it i threw that set to him so me him and m2k could 3 way spilt we had a plan so that i could play hbox cause i was 3 stocking him all day but then i lost to chadddd LOL

 

[trahhSTEEZY]

lol sneaky kids

 

[JPOBS]

lol thats soooo wack.

on another note, i just watched u vs mango from dgdtj. im taking so many notes lol

 

[Palpi]

I need to laser like Jman.

 

[unknown522]

man, falcomist got ****ed up so bad.

I wish that marths I played with didn't SDI and CC at all though.

I know Jesus was lovin it.

 

[(*Jman*)]

yea he looked like he did not no what to do lol

so i just made him come to me lol
\
also when the marth is good at sdi they must of the time get hit with the hard bair its a good mix up

i remember doin it to srawhat dohan w/e his name is lol

he mad good tho

 

[Kanelol]

so i'm watching jman vs mango from dgdtj

is that entire match up nothing but u-throw

Spoiler

strawhat dahean 2guud

 

[Rubyiris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZC8dkpoJC4#t=09m10s

Any critique outside of "Ruby ur techskill sucks"?

 

[GOD!]

im a noob but

-you seemed like you were putting yourself in bad position for no reason (above him, right next to the edge).
-you get grabbed a ton cause of little things (not spacing aerials right, drilling him in the air )
-also when he was in the air or above you, you shined him and drilled him when you should have just baired or naired. It looked like you were just trying to get percent on him or maybe look cool or do cool stuff (it's friendlies, ok).. but the point is to knock him offstage. its a lot easier to just do that and then bair 5 or 6 times then to get him to 90% and waveshine usmash.

Also grab is good in this matchup imo.

W/e take it or leave it

 

[Rubyiris]

Even if you're a "noob" those are still good observations. Don't discredit yourself.

 

[Fried Ice Cream]

- Waveshine > grab is good.
- You didn't use up-tilt. Use it!
- Most importantly, you didn't really think, you were on auto-pilot. You didn't stop and think and realized "if I wait here for half a second, he'll just land there and I can up-tilt" or something similar to that. You just went for the hit.

- When he's on a platform above you, the aerial is up, not down !

 

[Rubyiris]

wuts a think. i just push buttans.

 

[Evoke]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZC8dkpoJC4#t=09m10s

Any critique outside of "Ruby ur techskill sucks"?

pfft my techskill is pretty much the same

When you illusioned onto the edge... actually, never mind.
You're sort of putting yourself into pretty bad situations. Like, staying on the edge near Falcon and stuff. I'm not knowledgeable on Falcon matchups but it looks a bit risky, most of it.
er
Needs more jab.
Also, your edgestall sort of thing where you fell off the edge, then jumped back onto it, then got kneed, that was a really risky. Not because he kneed you but you don't keep invincibility long enough so it's easy to get hit or edgehogged or something.

Most of these were from my personal experiences, can't comment much on the rest. :/

 

[GOD!]

Even if you're a "noob" those are still good observations. Don't discredit yourself.

nah its not a negative thing. It's a good mindset to be in to be teachable. I don't think im like a super ignorant annoying noob, but i just know im pretty ignorant of ssbm melee atm. So I get excited about all there is to learn and i don't take my lack of skill seriously =D

 

[trahhSTEEZY]

Ruby I think you work too much off yourself instead of what your opponent is doing. alot of times it just seems like you throw alot of stuff out just to try and initiate a combo. also the ledge stalling stuff isn't worth it, you can get hit out of the firebird during the stall easily, and it just gives you bad stage positioning.