Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-

[x After Dawn x]

Level 9's are a lot more gay than level 7's, but level 7's are definitely more legit. Like, level 9's power shield lasers all day, but level 7's only do it once in a while. But level 7's don't just spam neutral A jabs all day.

 

[Silent Wolf]

I ran a round robin tourney for cpus a couple years ago and link won. =P

 

[GOTM]

I ran a round robin tourney for cpus a couple years ago and link won. =P

same result

 

[Lovage]

tek skill vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZGnp2Sqb_k

 

[TresChikon]

I ran a round robin tourney for cpus a couple years ago and link won. =P

Falcon wouldn't stop D-throw-->Raptor Boosting off the stage. But he actually pulled off a knee when he actually landed a side+b

 

[JPOBS]

running upsmashes. either jc or cc to upsmash. i prefer cc but

sometimes i cant dash dance to upsmash and the crouch cancel just feels wierd doing it anyway. is jc the only way to upsmash directly out of a dd? i remember vaguely reading somewhere that you cant cc the initial dash animation, only the full dash which is probably why im having problems. confirm or deny?

 

[unknown522]

I ran a round robin tourney for cpus a couple years ago and link won. =P

spacies always kill themselves at some point. Ganon usually wins for me and falco if he doesn't kill himself. DK is good too.

same result

above post.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Level 9's are a lot more gay than level 7's, but level 7's are definitely more legit. Like, level 9's power shield lasers all day, but level 7's only do it once in a while. But level 7's don't just spam neutral A jabs all day.

lvl 4's are where its at. i actually made one camp it's shield (continuously hold it) for like 10 seconds by lasering above its head over and over. they almost never power shield but have pretty random DI.

 

[RaynEX]

running upsmashes. either jc or cc to upsmash. i prefer cc but

sometimes i cant dash dance to upsmash and the crouch cancel just feels wierd doing it anyway. is jc the only way to upsmash directly out of a dd? i remember vaguely reading somewhere that you cant cc the initial dash animation, only the full dash which is probably why im having problems. confirm or deny?

You're right; you can't dash cancel your initial dash animation. So you either

- do a full run and DC (hold down) at a certain point and usmash with either up+a or the cstick.

-during your initial dash animation, JC usmash using up+a or the cstick

If you find JC usmashes to be difficult (random fullhops, accidental moves, etc), try this. After you hit forward to begin running, do a quarter circle motion towards the top vertex and hit up on the cstick as soon as you get there. Its basically a hadouken motion upwards. It helps time the usmash and makes your life easier.

Oh, and if any of you claw, you can use X or Y + up on the cstick too.

 

[JPOBS]

yea i figured that was the problem.

yea my jc smashes arent as consistent as they should be, and i've played around with joystick up -> cstick up like you explained but i find that to be more error prone.

I guess its just practice practice practice till i get it down 100%, like everything else in this game.

 

[Tomacawk]

Lovage I commented this on the video but I'll put it here, too
pretty impressive. the shield drops were pretty ****ing nice and so were the ledge cancels
I gotta get back into the tech skill mode :D

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

i find it to be much easier to just learn to use the A button when it comes to running usmashes. it gives you the option of charging for whatever time is required (sometimes fox gets there a little too early )

 

[Lovage]

you can also use c-stick + z to charge smashes, but that's a pretty awkward hand movement

 

[Strong Badam]

hitting two different things normally at the same time is awkward?

 

[JBM falcon08]

i use c and z for my smash moves.

i get screwed some times but w/e.

get at me

 

[TresChikon]

Z is only for grabbing and for the occasional SHFFZing, charging smashes is ridonkulous

 

[RaynEX]

i find it to be much easier to just learn to use the A button when it comes to running usmashes. it gives you the option of charging for whatever time is required (sometimes fox gets there a little too early )

Using A, its likely that half of the time you will have a slight charge on your usmash when you attempt it. Its not much, but sometimes its enough time for your opponent to put up shield or do a move and stop you before it comes out. cstick usmashes give you the fastest possible every single time. Thats why I use the cstick, at least.

 

[Meneks]

Using A, its likely that half of the time you will have a slight charge on your usmash when you attempt it. Its not much, but sometimes its enough time for your opponent to put up shield or do a move and stop you before it comes out. cstick usmashes give you the fastest possible every single time. Thats why I use the cstick, at least.

you use the c + z method?




I just dashcancel my upsmashes using the crouch button.. it seems like I get alot more control from it

 

[noodles]

crouching then up on cstick is the easiest way but its slower then like jc upsmash

 

[RaynEX]

you use the c + z method?




I just dashcancel my upsmashes using the crouch button.. it seems like I get alot more control from it

Control stick up + cstick up for me.

 

[soap]

Control stick up + cstick up for me.

i took this advice from raynex like a year ago and it has made a world of difference.

if i want to charge it to wait for a tech or sidestep i use A.

c+z is akward

 

[Brookman]

I use control stick and A >_> c-stick is fails

 

[Teczer0]

I use control stick and A >_> c-stick is fails

Dittos

Hai Brookman

 

[DtJ Jungle]

i couldnt jc upsmash from a run til like this past april


god i suck at this game.

 

[Meneks]

i couldnt jc upsmash from a run til like this past april


god i suck at this game.

lol from the looks of your post count and how long youve been on this site it seems like you need to get off the boards and get to practicing ;D

 

[DtJ Jungle]

hahahaha i just always cc upsmashed instead.

 

[soap]

with the dash cancel u cant do the gay super quick dash dance usmash

 

[EC_Joey]

Pivot upsmash? :D

 

[x After Dawn x]

No, that's excessively hard just for an upsmash, especially out of a dash dance.

 

[Silent Wolf]

jump cancel?

 

[SwiftBass]

tek skill vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZGnp2Sqb_k

damm lovage gettin off

 

[EC_Joey]

No, that's excessively hard just for an upsmash, especially out of a dash dance.

It's not excessively hard. Just gotta know how to pivot.

 

[Meneks]

How does lovage shield drop like that?

 

[EC_Joey]

How does lovage shield drop like that?

Off the platforms or off the ledges?

 

[noodles]

Off the platforms or off the ledges?

is the platform thing your talking about when your sheild is up then you fall through? if it is and you know you should explain it to me. ive done it a few times but i have no idea how to do it.

 

[soap]

pivot isnt hard.

if u can empty pivot u can pivot usmash/jab/grab

 

[EC_Joey]

Lovage shield dropped off the ledges by doing a backwards sliding shield. He basically did a PC edgehog but shielded right after turning around and before dropping off the side.

He shield dropped through the platforms by doing a dashing shield drop. What he did was shield while moving forward. During that moment in time you can't spot dodge, so what you do is roll the control stick from the horizontal direction to down. Basically, to shield drop through a platform you move the stick down during times when you can't spot dodge from shield.

 

[noodles]

gotcha. ill try it out when i get the chance.

 

[RaynEX]

When you're rolling the control stick to the bottom vertex for the shield drop, be sure to remember not to actually hit down. You should be going for the point in between down and the direction you are facing when you attempt the drop. If you hit down on the control stick I'm pretty sure you will end up spot dodging.

 

[x After Dawn x]

Wow, I thought that was an N64 only technique, never knew it worked in Melee. I guess you learn new things every day. =]