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[COLLAPSE="Advice"]General advice: Less Dsmash, less Jab, less counter, less shieldbreaker. Or at least use them at more appropriate times. They are laggy and easily punishable, and unless used more sparingly will hurt you lots. Grab more. Marth's grab range is the longest non-tether, and it's awesome. Work on advanced techs like L-cancelling etc but I'm sure you knew that. Fastfall. Shorthop. I think the quickest way for you to improve is watch a lot lot lot of pro videos. I highly recommend Dr PeePee's footage from Apex, and anything that any of the big name players around here have touched. You'll get a better sense of when you should be doing what.
it isn't a very good move. The shieldbreaker from the skies is a nice mixup, but you were too close for that to have worked on a human the first time, and the second time a fair would have served you better. The dair on the left platform would have been a better fair. You got a lucky fsmash because of your missed counter following it 
but you weren't able to capitalize. When someone is in a position like that, a dtilt would have poked him off the ledge, whereas even a tipped dair would have just bounced him up like that. The fulljump following this made me nervous, try to avoid unnecessary fulljumps. Fsmash would have killed where usmash didn't. Usmash is pretty bad.
Alright, if there ever is a Starbucks here while I still am. I had no idea all those smashers lived anywhere near me, because I've heard of them... As for my friend, we already play casually on Fridays (I lug my Gamecube into the school and we play during lunch), and we live pretty close, so that's going to help out a lot.
I'll be sure to do that.
Thank you very much for providing such a detailed response, it means a lot to me that you took the time to do this. It helped me look at my playstyle from a different angle.[COLLAPSE="Advice"]General advice: Less Dsmash, less Jab, less counter, less shieldbreaker. Or at least use them at more appropriate times. They are laggy and easily punishable, and unless used more sparingly will hurt you lots. Grab more. Marth's grab range is the longest non-tether, and it's awesome. Work on advanced techs like L-cancelling etc but I'm sure you knew that. Fastfall. Shorthop. I think the quickest way for you to improve is watch a lot lot lot of pro videos. I highly recommend Dr PeePee's footage from Apex, and anything that any of the big name players around here have touched. You'll get a better sense of when you should be doing what.
Breakdown of video:
0:00-0:10: Don't approach from above like this. Marth can do borderline nothing if he's under someone. If that link decided to utilt, uair, usmash... you'd be in for a world of hurt. If you fastfell near the end there, it would have saved you some pain.
0:10-0:25ish: Double ftilt fmash won't work on hoomans. For the edgeguard on a player this wouldn't work, run off fair, grab ledge to bair, iunno. But just standing there like that won't work on humans. The dair was a nice ending.
0:25ish-1:15ish : Two wiffed counters and a dsmash. Ouch. Against a non-cpu that would be punished, and brutally. Same goes for the three jabs at the air following it. You seem to really rely on dsmash, most times you use it you'd be better off going for a grab. Grab->bthrow->shenanigans->edgeguard->stock market crash. But instead you dsmashed
1:15-2:00 : Don't rely on shieldbreaker so much, it's easily punished. For your recovery, you could have saved your jump there, luckily CPUs don't edgehog. Getting off the ledge attacks are typically a no-no, especially marth's over 100 one. A solid finish to the link's stock.
2:00-2:20 : Doublejump shieldbreaker? That's a bad bad idea. When you lose your double jump, your chances of getting gimped rise exponentially. And a 7% shieldbreaker attack that leads to nothing is by no means worth that risk. You do some nice aerial juggling for a minute against link there, this is one of if not the strongest areas of Marth's playstyle, focus on that kind of stuff more :D Stop using shieldbreaker so much :x
2:20- end: Nice bomb catch, not the best use of it though. Sweet finish. LESS SHIELDBREAKER
Sorry if any of that came off as harsh, you had some good moments in there. You definitely need to work on using advanced techniques (wavedashing, shffl, etc etc). Watch pro videos to learn when to use what a bit better. Do those and you'll get a billion times better :D! hope this helped in some small way.[/COLLAPSE]
You got creative with the edge guarding at times but most of the time if you ****ed up you got the kill anyway with little or no extra %. Sometimes however you didn't. I will give you a pass though because you collect good footage for yourself and I can use it
Dart is probably the best person to get falcon advice from, but my experience in the MU pretty much boils down to spacing, pure and simple. Falcon, with his speed, can neutralize Marth's spacing game very well, so it makes approaches very difficult. Approaching with nair is ok, but you'll get grabbed out of it if you aren't careful. Something I've been using lately with moderate success is to jump in with nair, but hold away once the nair comes out. It stops your forward momentum and isn't expected so falcon can miss a shield grab and then you can punish. If you are dash dancing to bait the approach, know that 95% of the time he's gonna aim through you. Overshot nairs and knees are his butter. Keep this in mind and you can destroy his approaching game with retreating fairs or WDing underneath his jump.
Uthrow Falcon gives most frame advantage. If you ever Dtilt Falcon off stage run off and fair him once or twice. Its a super easy kill. You can Uthrow>Utilt at around 42%. Approach more with Dtilt>GTFO. Punish missed techs with Dtilt. That Falcon loves to throw out random knees lol. You ledgehopped very much and got punished for it many times.
First off, I love your Marth.
Getting better. Verses Falco, don't forget about those retreating fairs OoS that we talked about at Tipped Off 7 they ****. At 1:35 you had an easy dair for a spike but you wiffed an fsmash and then it cost you a stock cause of that silly trade. Especially on Yoshi's, if you put em in the air to the edge of the platform, it's best to almost always jump through spike. Because of the way YS is made they can't really DI to the platform or stage and it's a kill even at low percent.
You're right about...everything! I didn't Ken combo because I was afraid I was out of range, and I knew the double fair would kill all the same. And yes, PS is like, my counterpick against spacies now!Getting better. Verses Falco, don't forget about those retreating fairs OoS that we talked about at Tipped Off 7 they ****. At 1:35 you had an easy dair for a spike but you wiffed an fsmash and then it cost you a stock cause of that silly trade. Especially on Yoshi's, if you put em in the air to the edge of the platform, it's best to almost always jump through spike. Because of the way YS is made they can't really DI to the platform or stage and it's a kill even at low percent.
Your Powershields make me angry
Why you no Ken combo @ 5:24?? Does your tag mean nothing to you!!! :D
Also, I told you Pokemon Stadium was good vs spacies.
I'll watch the rest later.
Pokemon Stadium is a poor man's FD. No middle platform in neutral, no wall for spacies to ride on recovery, and each transformation has a section that benefits Marth, the key is not to get caught in those bad areas. Or, camp em out if you feel so inclined.
Definitely not out of range there. I only mention it because, while the fair worked you'll end up seeing that range again and you might be on a different stage or closer to the stage or something else that would lead to not getting the kill. Spam is right, dolphin slash would have worked as well. You could even side b first which would have connected and closed that range you were suspect about, followed by any marth finisher. But hey, you knew double fair would kill so I'm fine with it!
Very debatable. Unfortunately transformations really are ugly as only one of them is ok for marth (water). I agree that the platforms are some of the best if not the best for marth combos but i really don't think it makes up for the fact that you give spacies a huge amount of room to lazer like hell. I dont think that is beneficial. Against fox i think its less of a problem except if you get caught by a wall but against falco i think its not good. It's winnable and i probably wouldnt ban it against fox but against falco i am not inclined to go there.
...Did you not see how well Ether was powershielding? If I could do that, I'd rock PS and FD all day.
who does mafia main? killing with utilt seems like an easy kill option when falco is over 130ish, idk lol
