Gea
Smash Master
I used to cape misfires all the time. I always "expected" the misfire. If the blastzones are close they can hit the blastzone from the misfire.
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Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!
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Desh
Smash Ace
also, link and samus can grapple on japes. They just cant hang on their grapple.
Actually link can do some pretty creative things on japes with his hook shot, it actually becomes a viable move to use in a combo if you use it properly ;D
he can also move under the left and right plats with his grapple and do kind of a phantasm to them with it also.
Hard to explain what im saying.
But yeah. Samus can rising grapple too. Japes doesnt completely eliminate grapple as an option. It eliminates using grapple to recover low as an option D:
For obvious reasons such as, theres no where to grapple to except the ledge >_>
I take back what i said about hookshot being 'viable'.
Its more like something no one will expect, and isnt as punishable when used correctly on japes. Theres surely better things to be doing
Actually link can do some pretty creative things on japes with his hook shot, it actually becomes a viable move to use in a combo if you use it properly ;D
he can also move under the left and right plats with his grapple and do kind of a phantasm to them with it also.
Hard to explain what im saying.
But yeah. Samus can rising grapple too. Japes doesnt completely eliminate grapple as an option. It eliminates using grapple to recover low as an option D:
For obvious reasons such as, theres no where to grapple to except the ledge >_>
I take back what i said about hookshot being 'viable'.
Its more like something no one will expect, and isnt as punishable when used correctly on japes. Theres surely better things to be doing
Blistering Speed
Smash Champion
Na.
Um.... what?
Since when could they grapple on japes. That's the frickin point of taking them to take that stage. There's no ledge for them to grapple onto.
otg
Smash Master
Dude, Boss is so slippery and sexy, I'm going to have to steal a few of those tech chases cause of how sexy they were.
Hey guys. I am picking up Doc for teams. Is there any threads or discussion about Doc in teams you can point me to?
otg
Smash Master
lmao thats actually what this thread started off as. if you want to read the first few posts maybe they can help you.
[jokes]What the f**K you doin around here?![/jokes]
But there isnt like, a specific place per say, there's just information kinda spread out here and there. We're kinda random around here. Infact, you can find some stuff if you look on the first few pages of this thread because that's what it originally started as (A doc in teams discussion).
Some of our views have changed from person to person, but the general idea is still the same.
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The one thing you need to know about teams is that doc's edgeguarding is above par. So you want to work with your partner to get you setups for cape. More often than not, you want them covering the high option since you cant do that very well, and you want them to do stuff to force a second jump.
If your opponent(s) are coming low or are looking to go for the ledge, you want to be the guy edgehogging. That way, you can still control that area w/ capes w/o putting your partner at a huge risk. If the situation pans out to where you're on the stage, you can still cape, but your partner just has to be mindful to move so they dont get caped off the ledge.
Beyond that, b.air like a champion.
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and a random question, did you go to herb? I heard you did but never saw you.
Hey just because my character doesn't have a PHD doesn't mean I can't learn about the good doctor.
Thanks for the info. Now I need to find a reliable partner to try out some doc stuff.
I didn't make it to Herb. I was at the first Herb. Apparently if I had gone I would have gotten a ticket or arrested. That and my out of region performance has been pretty terrible recently.
Desh
Smash Ace
Lol dogy i'll get vids. =p
There is definitely a ledge. Just like battle field XD.
There is definitely a ledge. Just like battle field XD.
Just a quick idea i had while messing around with doc. it's pretty funny I think... k so has anyone ever taunt canceled into bair stage spike vs an opponent? I'm gonna keep trying to pull it off but I haven't had a chance to try it vs real opponents yet. it's like the ultimate bi-- slap vs the opponent.
haha, I try to do that alot, but off of platforms and into any aerial. It makes me feel cool.
Shroomed
Smash Master
i've come to learn that doc is a great team character
Sounds like epic lols.
Im sooooo gunna try that now.
Desh
Smash Ace
Lol shbawl> up b cancel is lols too XD
but omg i just tried the taunt cancel thing . looks hilarious XD
edit: oh and on people who neutral di in a cg, rising nado LOL.
that **** looks funny.
actually, on yoshis, if a falcon recovers to the platform(or is trying) stay below it, then you can cape, and if hes going for the plat, rising nado will hit him pretty far off. LOL.
but omg i just tried the taunt cancel thing . looks hilarious XD
edit: oh and on people who neutral di in a cg, rising nado LOL.
that **** looks funny.
actually, on yoshis, if a falcon recovers to the platform(or is trying) stay below it, then you can cape, and if hes going for the plat, rising nado will hit him pretty far off. LOL.
Gea
Smash Master
Dude, you mean KJ 64. You can grapple on Japes I am almost sure. Solid edge.
Shroomed
Smash Master
you CAN grapple on japes
Desh
Smash Ace
yeah you def. can. I swear some of the silly things you can do with link on that stage are awesome =D its like falco or some**** XD
Edit: kay i recorded a quick vid on my cam of it.
Although, i cant do some of the stuff my friend 4serial does lol.
And he does this stuff i recorded better than me. It doesnt even look how i do it O_o ...but you'll get the general idea lol.
First time i tried to do that stuff johns. >_>
edit; 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nksqn3PnAmE
>________> lol@falcondeath
Edit: kay i recorded a quick vid on my cam of it.
Although, i cant do some of the stuff my friend 4serial does lol.
And he does this stuff i recorded better than me. It doesnt even look how i do it O_o ...but you'll get the general idea lol.
First time i tried to do that stuff johns. >_>
edit; 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nksqn3PnAmE
>________> lol@falcondeath
VGmasta
Smash Lord
I wanna see doc become high tier!
DRD
Smash Lord
High tier doc, leave it to dogy and waffles
hmw's doc is definitely underrated imo
edit: Dogy you're thinking about kongo jungle
2edit: lol 4 people already answered
hmw's doc is definitely underrated imo
edit: Dogy you're thinking about kongo jungle
2edit: lol 4 people already answered
Shroomed
Smash Master
doc is only high tier in teams!!!!
i wanna travel more and play midwest/EC/south ppl
i need another job asap
i wanna travel more and play midwest/EC/south ppl
i need another job asap
otg
Smash Master
I would say Boss is looking pretty sexy right now (aka: the best Doc). Stop playing Brawl and make that **** count son.
Shroomed
Smash Master
boss is now the best doc cuz he JV 5'd a guy in a friendly?
I said Kj64, but no, i was talking about japes.
But no, I didnt know you could grapple on japes. Never seen it. If grapple is my problem against samus/link, i default to KJ64.
But no, I didnt know you could grapple on japes. Never seen it. If grapple is my problem against samus/link, i default to KJ64.
otg
Smash Master
yep, that was obviously my logic.
Nah, he's been impressive for awhile but under the radar cause he's mostly brawl now. This is just my opinion, I know you WC doc's think all high and mighty of urselves 
InterimOfZeal
Smash Champion
Lemme know when you want to travel and I'll get a CO tournament ready for ya. :D!
Desh
Smash Ace
Yeah no lie, boss doesnt miss anything >_> its ridiculous. Hes like the armada of mario/doc or some ****.
He covers every possible option when hes edgegaurding you DX.
and hes so in your face and consistent. blah.
[/fanboy] lol.
He covers every possible option when hes edgegaurding you DX.
and hes so in your face and consistent. blah.
[/fanboy] lol.
BigTestedCoals
Smash Rookie
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I'm just starting to main Doc...
i was watching some vids of shroomed and i saw him do some up+b walltech cancel to another up+b... just wondering how he did that
i was watching some vids of shroomed and i saw him do some up+b walltech cancel to another up+b... just wondering how he did that
it's exactly like you said.
You up+b along a wall, get hit by something, tech it, then up+b again.
You up+b along a wall, get hit by something, tech it, then up+b again.
VGmasta
Smash Lord
What is JV'5?!
TresChikon
Smash Lord
A perfect match where you have all four stocks and not a single percent inflicted. (Food doesn't count.)
Shroomed
Smash Master
who's you guys' favorite docs?
mine is foxroar
mine is foxroar
anthony000
Smash Journeyman
Captain Jack
otg
Smash Master
Batman .
TresChikon
Smash Lord
Pink Doctor
SpruceTengu
Smash Journeyman
Favorite doc? Eeh. Not easy.
Can I pick several?
Of course you can, Spruce, don't be silly.
Okay. In that case: HMW, Smashmac, Eighteenspikes, Captain Jack, Dogy
I haven't watched enough Boss. I really should get on that.
Can I pick several?
Of course you can, Spruce, don't be silly.
Okay. In that case: HMW, Smashmac, Eighteenspikes, Captain Jack, Dogy
I haven't watched enough Boss. I really should get on that.
SpruceTengu
Smash Journeyman
<3 Thank you Dogy.
More specific question-- Punishing excessive Bomb-jump aerials/mindgame? The last 3 good samuses i've run up against have done alot of that business, and my only viable tactic has been waiting outside, because every time I let my impulsiveness get the best of me I get D'aired into some unhappy coupla hits that ends up racking me up some damage.
Any advice on how to punish use of this method in excess?
Many thanks.