Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 ('Terminal' - the 17th for Elite / 18th for non-Elite)

[SnackAttack]

I'll be on tonight. Save a spot for meeeeeeeeeeeee.


By the way, Piazza is cool. Liberation is *********.

PS: I'm starting to like search more. You just have to play with the right people and mute everyone else. The kids that play it are just... rotten.

 

[F8AL]

Watch the censor, Snack.

 

[O D I N]

I'll be on tonight. Save a spot for meeeeeeeeeeeee.


By the way, Piazza is cool. Liberation is *********.

PS: I'm starting to like search more. You just have to play with the right people and mute everyone else. The kids that play it are just... rotten.

Yay! Someone else who likes search!

I prefer to mute everyone in search too.

But then sometimes, you find some cool guys on the other team. And then this happens.

 

[SnackAttack]

Watch the censor, Snack.

My apologies

 

[Hot_ArmS]

ive always liked search, just no one plays it

 

[F8AL]

Modern Warfare 3 Elite maps locked to one profile on one console

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/25/modern-warfare-3-elite-maps-locked-to-one-profile-on-one-console/

hahaohwow.jpg

 

[O D I N]

Modern Warfare 3 Elite maps locked to one profile on one console

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/25/modern-warfare-3-elite-maps-locked-to-one-profile-on-one-console/

hahaohwow.jpg

Ha. That sucks.

It is a breach of item description, and they were reached for comment. I wanna see what happens.

Popcorn. Gif

Doesn't matter for me. I'm the only one plays the maps, and on said console.

 

[Master Xanthan]

Modern Warfare 3 Elite maps locked to one profile on one console

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/25/modern-warfare-3-elite-maps-locked-to-one-profile-on-one-console/

hahaohwow.jpg

Meh, I'm the only one that plays on my console so it doesn't matter to me.

 

[NOVA1106]

Anybody playing?I just got on

 

[ThunderSt0rm]

infinity ward, way to **** up theater even more with that "theater fix" that just happened

 

[Master Xanthan]

Ok, I know everyone is gonna disagree with me on this, but I think UAV's are overpowered. Why do you ask? Because they are so easy to get. All it takes is 3 kills (and with support it doesn't matter if you die). Seriously, the past 3 matches all I hear is "enemy UAV spotted" 3 seconds later "enemy UAV spotted" its driving me insane. I don't want the enemy knowing where I am the entire match. And that is why I don't mind when people use Assassin. Its perfectly fine to use IMO if you are just running and gunning which is like the only thing I do in Call of Duty. When people camp, I don't care if they use assassin, just the fact that people camp regardless of what perks they use just pisses me off.

/end rant

edit: Not only that but because the way the game and the maps are, its almost impossible to find uav's and shoot them down, half the time I'm lucky if I find them. I didn't mind spy planes/uav's in all the previous cod games because they were easy to find, but in MW3 its next to impossible sometimes.

 

[Zatchiel]

I can actually concur with Nathan. I recently began running Specialist (Assassin, Scavenger, Steady Aim), and the amount of UAVs I see going up typically is absolutely absurd. 3 kills (2 or even less on Hardline Pro) definitely seems like a bit of undeserved consolation. Finding the UAV and shooting it down is one problem, then there comes not being conspicuous while trying doing so. Heck, it's near meaningless when another is going up in 4 seconds.

 

[Master Xanthan]

I can actually concur with Nathan. I recently began running Specialist (Assassin, Scavenger, Steady Aim), and the amount of UAVs I see going up typically is absolutely absurd. 3 kills (2 or even less on Hardline Pro) definitely seems like a bit of undeserved consolation. Finding the UAV and shooting it down is one problem, then there comes not being conspicuous while trying doing so. Heck, it's near meaningless when another is going up in 4 seconds.

Exactly, not to mention, the spawns are so bad that you can't even shoot down UAV's from your spawn, take anymore than 4 seconds to find a UAV and the enemy finds you and shoots you in the back.

 

[Matt07]

I just wished Assassin wasn't immune to CUAV, I loved using that killstreak in previous games because it pretty much allowed me to have Ghost/Assassin without really having the perk on. Since Assassin is more prevelant in this game, it has less use but what ever.

Also from 402 Twitter:

"Expect a 50% decrease to the fire rate of all Akimbo weapons in #MW3. We're doing a hotfix tonight to properly nerf them. Thanks Internet!"

 

[ThunderSt0rm]

"Expect a 50% decrease to the fire rate of all Akimbo weapons in #MW3.

Understandable for akimbo machine pistols but if they also hit akimbo handguns as ODIN is worrying about then that's just an absurd fix :/

 

[Matt07]

Yea, I agree. I'm glad machine pistols are recieving the nerf, but handguns don't deserve the nerf at all.

 

[LumpyCPU...]

in one class, i use support and only uav and cuav. i also have hardline pro on.

for example, if i have 7 kills and 2 assists, i've already gotten 2 uavs and 2 cuavs.
it's like exploiting for the sake of team work instead of for a moab or a good kdr.

 

[DSTP]

Ok, I know everyone is gonna disagree with me on this, but I think UAV's are overpowered. Why do you ask? Because they are so easy to get. All it takes is 3 kills (and with support it doesn't matter if you die). Seriously, the past 3 matches all I hear is "enemy UAV spotted" 3 seconds later "enemy UAV spotted" its driving me insane. I don't want the enemy knowing where I am the entire match. And that is why I don't mind when people use Assassin. Its perfectly fine to use IMO if you are just running and gunning which is like the only thing I do in Call of Duty. When people camp, I don't care if they use assassin, just the fact that people camp regardless of what perks they use just pisses me off.

/end rant

edit: Not only that but because the way the game and the maps are, its almost impossible to find uav's and shoot them down, half the time I'm lucky if I find them. I didn't mind spy planes/uav's in all the previous cod games because they were easy to find, but in MW3 its next to impossible sometimes.

Yes. And No.

It's a perfectly reasonable thing to think, especially with the number of UAVs flying around in one match of MW3. It seems that the skill involved with earning a killstreak has been completely depleted, especially by the support package.

However, the critical error you make here when suggesting that the killstreak is overpowered is overwhelmingly simple:
Call of Duty's base gameplay has shifted so drastically that the UAV, staying almost exactly the same from game to game, has been inserted in a place where its results are drastically more beneficial.

For instance, how fast people die in this game is a huge factor. In previous CoDs (I need not mention Blops) you had a fighting chance to escape gunfights no matter the situation, simply because your character took bullets like a champ. In MW3, a red dot = insta-kill (hence why everyone uses assassin). Also, like you said, UAVs have been obscured into the stratosphere by buildings and fog, to the point where shooting them down becomes a game of Search and Destroy by itself.

The support package gives you the strange option of only picking one killstreak. In all honesty, this should be removed and replaced with the requirement of choosing three. So at minimum, the enemy team must get eleven/twelve points for their next UAV, in which case they most likely deserve it. Assault, I would say, still maintains balance. To call in your next UAV, you need another three killstreak. But why do that when you could use a predator missile instead? Or maybe call in a chopper? Assault has many more lucrative options, while support is a pile of **** with a bunch of radar band-aids.

Lastly, I must say, if you are having too much trouble with UAVs, start running more CUAVs. Poor man's assassin is much better than it sounds. Remember how hard it was shooting down UAVs? Well, the same applies to those pesky CUAVs.


In total: UAVs not OP, other aspects of the game made it run rampant, start running CUAV.


Any other questions, class?

 

[SnackAttack]

I DO agree with you, Xanthan. The only problem is Assassin protects you from so much more than the UAV, and there's no reliable counter or competition. THAT is why I dislike it.

Recon drone? 10 kills can be quite frustrating to get, unless you're playing with the LEGENDARY ZlippyToad.

Recon? If it wasn't buggy, it wouldn't be that bad.

It needs to go back to CoD4/WaW. UAV Jammer and Camo...

OR it can go back to MW2. You either had to choose between Stopping Power, Cold Blooded, or the some extent Lightweight.

Also: I love Bobby.

 

[Master Xanthan]

Bob, I do agree with you, actually. Its not really the UAV itself, its all the different game mechanic changes along with stupid map design. Also, yeah Counter UAV is a good idea, I usually liked running specialist though because of all the xp, but if counter uav's help me enjoy the game more, I guess I could try that. But when playing by myself with randoms, I think I'll just stick with Barebones so killstreaks are just not a factor at all.

 

[O D I N]

Bueller?


I hit Goal #1 last night guys...

/flex

The KSG is a single shot cannon. I think the cycle rate is less than the SPAS. You gotta hit your mark if you want the kill. But if it hits, 9 times outta 10, it should kill.

Also, Stingers all day, everyday.

 

[LumpyCPU...]

(stuff and a picture and stuff)

is that pic only available on an elite account? or can anyone look themselves up on that?

edit: just went 21-10 with the usas12 or whatever in ffa. not the best i've done, but it's the best i've done with a shotgun.
good thing i never got into the striker. i knew this would happen eventually.

 

[O D I N]

is that pic only available on an elite account? or can anyone look themselves up on that?

edit: just went 21-10 with the usas12 or whatever in ffa. not the best i've done, but it's the best i've done with a shotgun.
good thing i never got into the striker. i knew this would happen eventually.

You should be able to do that with a 'free' Elite account. I don't see why you couldn't.

I just screen capped it and edited it quickly at pixlr.com (the poor mans photoshop when you're at work).

U-So-Sassy da bess. It's so ridiculous now. I expect a nerf in two months.

 

[LumpyCPU...]

well i'm not going to make an elite account.

i'm consciously trying to avoid creating accounts... think of it as a strange man's new years resolution.

 

[O D I N]

:nods:

I can respect that.

EDIT:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0029LJIFG

$35.99 for 12months of Live Xbox folks. Enjoy! Get it while it's hot.

 

[SwampertTheGreat]

Lol people are just now realizing uav is op. It's been like that forever it's just a lot more noticeable in this game. Problem is people don't want to be seen but want to see everyone.

Haven't played much these last few days. I probably should since I want to reach 10th kinda soon

 

[F8AL]

Lol people are just now realizing uav is op. It's been like that forever it's just a lot more noticeable in this game. Problem is people don't want to be seen but want to see everyone.

Haven't played much these last few days. I probably should since I want to reach 10th kinda soon

What rank/prestige are you currently?

 

[Master Xanthan]

Lol people are just now realizing uav is op. It's been like that forever it's just a lot more noticeable in this game. Problem is people don't want to be seen but want to see everyone.

Haven't played much these last few days. I probably should since I want to reach 10th kinda soon

I will admit that in past CoD games, UAV's kind of feel like crutch. This is another reason why I like barebones, you don't have to rely on killstreaks. Oh, and plus in barebones I don't get killed randomly by predator missiles, which is a huge plus.

 

[SwampertTheGreat]

What rank/prestige are you currently?

6th level 40 something

 

[DSTP]

Lol people are just now realizing uav is op. It's been like that forever it's just a lot more noticeable in this game. Problem is people don't want to be seen but want to see everyone.

Haven't played much these last few days. I probably should since I want to reach 10th kinda soon

They could have easily avoided this if they had never included stealth perks. Or at least, put in really weak stealth perks.

 

[Master Xanthan]

They could have easily avoided this if they had never included stealth perks. Or at least, put in really weak stealth perks.

I still think stealth perks are necessary because since MW2, there are some killstreaks that are pretty over the top. I'm mainly referring to the chopper gunner. Without stealth perks, good lucking shooting those things down. I mean its possible without stealth perks, but much more difficult. Plus I hate predator missiles, which is another reason I love stealth perks, because without them I am a predator missile magnet.

 

[Hot_ArmS]

so youre saying blind eye is fine but assassin needs to go

 

[Master Xanthan]

so youre saying blind eye is fine but assassin needs to go

Well, in MW2 I wouldn't see the need to use cold blood if they had just kept the traditional 3-5-7 killstreak setup. But in MW3 the UAV spam is so bad that Assassin is necessary IMO.

 

[LumpyCPU...]

i would still use assassin if it didn't hide you from uav but still did everything else.

btw, since you were talking about barebones, i decided to try it out.
i thought it was gonna be no perks/attactments/anything.
i was more than irritated to find that deathstreaks are still functioning in barebones.

it ended up being a lot more fun than i thought it would be. i'm better at kill confirmed now that i rush so much, but i'm still not good at domination with randoms.

 

[Player-1]

UAV should be like 4 or 5 killstreak on assault package, but I don't think it's as OPed in this game as it was on black ops. Black ops it was way more noticeable which is why everyone used ghost.

 

[Zatchiel]

First game of Barebones I've ever played, and Xanthan is in the room, inadvertently. Shocking.

Barebones is really fun. I get lots of decent practice with my sniping, with relatively less concern than in Core.

 

[Hot_ArmS]

at least it was way easier to find and there was always cuav


edit: player 1 you're not black???

 

[LumpyCPU...]

i don't think assault should have any support killstreaks.
i don't think support should have any assault killstreaks.

that'd be cool, imo...

 

[Master Xanthan]

i would still use assassin if it didn't hide you from uav but still did everything else.

btw, since you were talking about barebones, i decided to try it out.
i thought it was gonna be no perks/attactments/anything.
i was more than irritated to find that deathstreaks are still functioning in barebones.

it ended up being a lot more fun than i thought it would be. i'm better at kill confirmed now that i rush so much, but i'm still not good at domination with randoms.

Yeah, pretty dumb that deathstreaks are in barebones, makes no sense. I still like barebones regardless.

@player1: I didn't find Spy Planes to be that bad in Black Ops, then again I also shoot them down as soon as they come up, since they aren't too difficult to find.

 

[F8AL]

They should just move the two stealth perks to the same tier. Either be invisible to air support OR UAVs. Not both. Make the tough decision.