Buffered Pivot Grab: a new really hard infinite

[Flayl]

This is particularly interesting. Do you have to return to neutral position after each directional input? If not, that'd make this a lot more feasible.

No, just roll the control-stick along the bottom.

If it's easier for you, just skip the second 2 and do: 1,2,1,3+Z

Yikarur: That's what "numerical pad notation" means lol

 

[da K.I.D.]

If it's just 1,2,1,2,3+Z, and not 1, *, 2, *, 1, *, 2, *, 3+Z, then that could be feasible...

you realise the number pad has a number to indicate the neutral position, so you dont have to use a star.

5

 

[Z1GMA]

Different Controller Schemes should make some of these advanced 5-input-buffer-thingies easier.

What I mean is:
Standard Controls - Side Special: left/right + B (Two inputs)
B-sticking - Side Special: C-stick left/right (One input)

Doesn't help DDD here, but might be useful in other 5-input-buffer-ATs.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

you realise the number pad has a number to indicate the neutral position, so you dont have to use a star.

5

...Derp. xD

 

[7Claus]

Sometimes instead of the pivot I end up doing a bacwards roll torwards Snake. What am I buffering wrong? I could only do 3 regrabs max, and I still can't do it consistently D:

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

Sometimes instead of the pivot I end up doing a bacwards roll torwards Snake. What am I buffering wrong? I could only do 3 regrabs max, and I still can't do it consistently D:

I do this all the time too, what's wrong?

 

[Flayl]

This is just a guess, I'll confirm it later today:

You're holding the grab button for too long.

Although I thought inputting down-forward would avoid rolling...

 

[Yikarur]

This is just a guess, I'll confirm it later today:

You're holding the grab button for too long.

Although I thought inputting down-forward would avoid rolling...

this, holding the grab button for too long results in "shield" after the buffer frames are over and overrites all inputs before and! if you input a smash direction and press shield between 1-5 frames afterwards you're autorolling. (if you dash and input shield afterwards you roll)

 

[7Claus]

Thanks, it got way easier now, but I still have to train to get it consistently.

And if any TO bans this and not ICs CG it'll be hypocrisy, because it's way harder and works on only 5 characters...

 

[Luxor]

Has anyone tried this with every character vs Ness/Lucas?

I tested D3's buffered pivot grab on them and it didn't work, and I figured if his didn't work hardly anybody's would.

 

[Prawn]

Thanks, it got way easier now, but I still have to train to get it consistently.

And if any TO bans this and not ICs CG it'll be hypocrisy, because it's way harder and works on only 5 characters...

well ics cg is more situational since you need nana next to you and you can do this out of every grab


but i agree all d3 infs should be legal, if atomsk masters idk if any snake will beat him ever again

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I wonder what the applications of this for other characters is though. It'd be great if Ganon could CG someone other than D3 for two throws.

 

[Tmacc]

Anyone been able to get this down yet?

I've pulled it off a couple times, but nothing consistant.

 

[Ripple]

chaingrab DK backwords?

 

[da K.I.D.]

for some heavy or fast falling characters I think this might have a very niche use in when you grab people at the ledge at low percent with falco and want to sqeeze a few extra down throws out before you go for the spike.

 

[Prawn]

just came here to say you guys are babies

my friend who doesnt even take brawl super seriously(even tho he is ****) can do this from like 0-75 consistently and ive seen him do it to 300


work harder?

 

[-LzR-]

Vids or it didn't happen.

 

[Prawn]

k im going back over friday and ill put replays on my sd card then


he says its harder then the ic cg but easier because its the same thing every time, he also says that theres a set rhythm and if you find it youre good

 

[Tmacc]

k im going back over friday and ill put replays on my sd card then


he says its harder then the ic cg but easier because its the same thing every time, he also says that theres a set rhythm and if you find it youre good

*doesnt think vids will happen*

But I demand to see them if this is true. Please

 

[Prawn]

(9:29:26 AM) so you gotta do the buffer
(9:30:29 AM) it's i think 1 frame
(9:30:22 AM) also

(9:29:34 AM) 2 frames BEFORE he grabs his hammer
(9:30:33 AM) after his feet touch the ground
(9:30:39 AM) this is from the dthrow animation



idk if this makes sense

its what i was told lmao

 

[-LzR-]

IC chaingrab isn't even hard. It's just because there are so many different timings.

 

[t3h Icy]

Get Silent Wolf to try this, he could use a challenge.

 

[PZ]

Get Silent Wolf to try this, he could use a challenge.

Isn't he a melee only kind of player?

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Yeah but Melee players love a good tech skill challenge

 

[Doc King]

I knew that Bowser could be infinited when near the edge, but now this will really help Dedede's metagame. I should try this out.

 

[xDD-Master]

So, did it anyone "master" this yet?

Dthrow -> UpSmash on Lucario is easy
Dthrow -> Pivot Bair also isn't thaaaat hard

But this Dthrow Infinite o_O
I just cant get it work D:

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I can do it consistently, actually. 2-1-2-3-Grab works wonders. You've got to get the buffer window committed to memory, though. What helps me is that the rumble from DThrow ends exactly 10 frames before the end of DThrow's animation.

 

[xDD-Master]

Well, I hate rumble D:

Will try the 2-1-2-3+Grab command :/

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I don't understand how people can time anything without it.

 

[xDD-Master]

Muscle Memory & watching (And maybe Sound too dont know XD)
It's normally enough for the most things (BDacus, Wario CG, ICs Infinites, DDD Infinite on every other character etc.)
But this DDD on Snake infinite has just too many Inputs in frames you where you don't see what you have inputed q_q
So I don't know if I started too soon or too late -.-"

 

[Supreme Dirt]

That's why the rumble is helpful. I time myself to start the input right after the last shake.

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

Supreme Dirt/Luxor - got AIM?

mine is mcabreact

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I don't have AIM. I only use Skype.

Also I'm so going to pull this off at CoT5. JUST WATCH ME.

 

[4GOD (JJV)]

Here's a vid of someone doing the grab on a couple of chars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=cseHesGaSWQ

I'd lyk to know exactly which characters it worx on besides Snake and the ones shown on the vid...since infinites are officially allowed by Unity. Anyone know?

 

[7Claus]

Only works on the ones shown: Bowser, Charizard, Ivysaur, Snake, Wolf and Yoshi.

 

[TheSlothStyle]

Well, I'm easily impressed with the video, but man it looks hard. As long as I can infinite DK and Bowser, I'm happy.

 

[Life]

Tried my hand at this, turning on rumble to help with the timing. Not inputting the initial 2 tends to screw things up <______< Still can't do it tho

But I do think the input buffer window overlaps with the rumble a bit, based on inputting simple buffered standing grabs.

 

[holyv]

stingers is the best D3 in the world

 

[stingers]

hey thanks
but why

 

[BryE]

hey thanks
but why

I never played against your D3 before.
But then again, it wouldn't surprise me if it was insanely good.