MuBa
Smash Lord
I personally think Snake, Fox, and MK will be top tier in Brawl+
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Since this a FAQ thread, I guess this question is the best place to say it:
How much does Brawl+ benefit each character thus far? I do know it's far too early to ask such a question, but I am intrested in what the changes and potental gain/loss ratio players have found so far.
I apolgize for such a heavy question, but the videos I've seen so far have piqued my intrest.
QFT.Sure, there's no way he'll make top tier, but he's definitely made it out of bottom. Trust me. I know what he's capable of, having been on both the delivering and receiving ends of ganon's punishment game.
Now that you mention it, Kirby might just be top or close to it in Brawl+. He's already pretty underestimated in vanilla (Chu just won a tourney soley with Kirby a few weeks ago). His forward smash has ridiculous range and power, and the fact that a lot of his "reading rainbows" are now actual combos, he can seriously rack up the damage and keep the fsmash fresh for the kill.Osi said:Kirby - Much better. He can wall of pain with the back air now pretty well. His up air can be used in some really nasty juggle combos. He isn't affect much by the no auto sweetspot, so it actually made his recovery better in comparison because others became worse. Hitstun did a lot to help his already nice air game. You can combo into the hammer in the air, so yea that's pretty nasty.
He can actually dthrow -> aerial shoryuken at killing percents, which is pretty cool imo.Osi pretty much summed up everything I wanted to put.
I'll type up some later that he didn't include, I've tested almost every char.
One char I really noticed an improvement on though was Luigi. He can combo great with Usmash/Dthrow/Utilts into Uairs, which in turn can be finished with a myriad of moves. His Dtilt is weird and great for combos, as it pops up chars right in front of him and sets up a Fsmash/Dsmash/killing move. He can also edgeguard very well with quick Fair/Bairs and jab-->Uppercut is amazing again.
Didn't think of it that way. Guess since everyone has hitstun now snake is easily combed cause he is a big target.snake is actually quite balanced with the hitstun. while he has some deadly, albeit short, combos, he suffers from it just as equally because hes a relatively large target, he falls moderately quickly, and his aerials are slow making him pretty easy to combo.
well the thing about MK is that he had something no one else did, so i think it might be feasible now that everyone has combos and a decent approach MK is probably not too far ahead of everyone else. with that said, however, MK is still really freaking good.
dunno much about ZSS, but i don't see her getting any worse. the hitstun doesn't affect her lightning stuns though.
and peach is really really good now.
I did the work for you lol ^_^I'll just have to test it out myself but i have some great ideas in my mind for zss if what im thinking actually plays out. lol
My lord!!! Thats exactly what i was thinking. Umm ok i think im about to start spamming brawl+
Exactly what i was thinking. I think i actually might be scared of a mk with hitstun. lolnice, a 50+% combo for ZSS.
MK is still broken as f*** now, and maybe even more.
My lord!!! Thats exactly what i was thinking. Umm ok i think im about to start spamming brawl+
lol thanks! Just keep in mind that was to a horrible DIing CPU with brawl's default hitstun. Im looking forward to those types of combos when hitlag mod comes out if your reaction is slow! This is exciting!! ^_^nice, a 50+% combo for ZSS.
MK is still broken as f*** now, and maybe even more.
I actually beat my friends MK easier with hitstun on. Though i doubt this is a good representation of how good mk with hitstun is. I personally believe diddy kong is gonna **** now and no doubt has a better chance to take MK. But hey, if all else fails we can nerf the little demon kirby.Exactly what i was thinking. I think i actually might be scared of a mk with hitstun. lol
I currently have one montage and working on another which should come this weekend and I know Osi has two I think.Is anyone working on some kind of combo collage or something to promote Brawl+?
Since what got me into smash was DBRs vids (Shined Blind in particular) that got me into smash, and Brawl+ has the flashiness that vanilla Brawl lacks, I'd suggest the Brawl+ community should make a combined effort to promote Brawl+ through competent, well put together videos.
This is really a bump in disguise, if anyone had made a new in the BGD, this thread would've fallen of the first page :S . Seriously needs moar exposure.
Wavedashing is not a glitch.While I'm glad this fixes some things, I don't care for some of the other things like wave-dashing and any of those unintended glitches from melee. Which is why I'm glad you can choose what you want on or off.
I also hope a SBAD code is made. I'm starting to realize MAD really doesn't fit in with Brawl+, even if it is a lot of fun to use. I mean, I really like wavedashing, but in its current state, it's sort of ridiculous.it's not that but it just feels wrong in brawl.
I would prefer a SBAD code.
These are all combo videos I've posted using brawl+Is anyone working on some kind of combo collage or something to promote Brawl+?
Since what got me into smash was DBRs vids (Shined Blind in particular) that got me into smash, and Brawl+ has the flashiness that vanilla Brawl lacks, I'd suggest the Brawl+ community should make a combined effort to promote Brawl+ through competent, well put together videos.
This is really a bump in disguise, if anyone had made a new in the BGD, this thread would've fallen of the first page :S . Seriously needs moar exposure.
WMM is not terrible and its sufficient. Lol, I think we are montage rivals...I was able to resurrect all my 10% matches with G so I have some great falcon on ganon matches plus more material to add to my montage. Expect epic video's in a day or so!!!These are all combo videos I've posted using brawl+
Shadows - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZoI3qE0_g
Cloud 9 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IfsKqWtDjw
Starlight - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfiDsnbVFVM
Rebirth - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DpFDYhoeuY&feature=related
Brawl+ montage - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B-0DzLJVHo&feature=related
These are only the first of many to come. Sorry for the bad editing on the first few. I was on WMM and it's too limited. I'm now using premiere, so expect more videos along the lines of "Shadows" to come.
It's enough to put clips together and minor edits. The clip/preview portion of it doesn't work all that well, the time line doesn't allow multiple videos to stack or much in the way of editing, and you can't slow down or speed up clips for editing like you can in slightly better programs. I'm not saying everyone needs premiere pro or anything, but even something cheaper like vegas is a bit more useful.WMM is not terrible and its sufficient. Lol, I think we are montage rivals...I was able to resurrect all my 10% matches with G so I have some great falcon on ganon matches plus more material to add to my montage. Expect epic video's in a day or so!!!
Thats true. Its hard to sync things also. Wax (Free) or premiere elements (i have that ) is goodIt's enough to put clips together and minor edits. The clip/preview portion of it doesn't work all that well, the time line doesn't allow multiple videos to stack or much in the way of editing, and you can't slow down or speed up clips for editing like you can in slightly better programs. I'm not saying everyone needs premiere pro or anything, but even something cheaper like vegas is a bit more useful.
Looking forward to the montage Kupo.
My video shadows was on elements. I've now switched over to full premiere, but elements has easily enough to make a good video. The time lines on elements work nice.Thats true. Its hard to sync things also. Wax (Free) or premiere elements (i have that ) is good
Have you tried wavedashing without the buffer? It's rediculously hard I'd like to see how many times someone could stack that.I also hope a SBAD code is made. I'm starting to realize MAD really doesn't fit in with Brawl+, even if it is a lot of fun to use. I mean, I really like wavedashing, but in its current state, it's sort of ridiculous.
Edit: Sorry, SHeLL, haha. x_x