Brawl+ Beta Build (GSH1) Discussion

[Revven]

quicky question:
If I use Regular method of latest B+ and my friend uses Snapshot method. Will it still sync?

Yeah.

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[SymphonicSage12]

Srsly ._. give Lucario his autosweetspot back

Its sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo impossible to recover, it ends so often in suicides

Spoiler

Or just don't fail at recovering.


Squircle.

 

[VietGeek]

sage is saying by sucking at recovery

u now are brilliant at it

and vice-versa

obv sage logic is obv

 

[SymphonicSage12]

************ you. I can never tell whether you're serious, just joking, or high.


*brain explodes*

 

[stRIP]

i dont have ANY problems at recovering and sweetspotting edges <<

http://www.youtube.com/user/JustRiPing (old videos but you cant
see what i mean)

You have to curve his UpB perfectly to somehow sweetspot the edge if you are near to it...

 

[SymphonicSage12]

or just aim above the stage and airdodge through any attackers. :|


Aren't you lucky enough already to have an up b with NO ending lag?

 

[NC-Echo]

Reducing hitstun for no good reason after the meta-game has just started to develope around the hitstun and combos based on that is a dumb idea. Also I don't see why air dodge out of tumble was taken away. I like ledge canceling though but to be honest most of the changes with this beta, I am not a fan of.

 

[SymphonicSage12]

then don't play it then.


And it's called an experimental build, *******. >.>


KEYWORD: EXPERIMENTAL

 

[NC-Echo]

I know and I would assume they want feedback and that is what I am giving them.

KEYWORD STATEMENT: EXPERIMENTS OR MEANT TO PROVIDE EXPERIMENTAL DATA, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS FEEDBACK

 

[Revven]

Sage is just a hyper 13 year old, don't mind him Echo. >_>

 

[IC3R]

I know and I would assume they want feedback and that is what I am giving them.

KEYWORD STATEMENT: EXPERIMENTS OR ARE MEANT TO PROVIDE EXPERIMENTAL DATA, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS FEEDBACK

I'm curious how my little puffball plays (more like the entire cast), but I haven't gotten a chance to use this set. I'll have to download and test this later, I have family dinner tonight.

 

[NC-Echo]

I'm curious how my little puffball plays (more like the entire cast), but I haven't gotten a chance to use this set. I'll have to download and test this later, I have family dinner tonight.

Plays about the same from what I can tell. You lost some of your combos out of throw at higher percents.

 

[IC3R]

I'm gonna miss the killer Nair.

Hmm...I suppose by the time my foe gets out of the throw combos, I should have killed with FSmash/Bair or gimped him/her already. No real loss there.

 

[kirox777]

One Small problem with the new, AWESOME SSE stage:

lol what stage is that?

EDIT: never mind i found it. thats kool :D they have pictures now and this is a nice stage its probably my new favorite, 2nd is now pokemon stadium 2. and u kno what the best part about the stage is? is that the edges are like melee final destination. as in if u use foxes up b to recover directly under the ledge u can aim it diagonally up and at the stage, you will make it on the stage. in brawls final destination if you try that you will get stuck in the corner >_>

 

[SymphonicSage12]

The SSE Jungle Battlefield (the place where you fight False Bowser). In this set, it replaces Hyrule Temple.

 

[Veril]

is the lack of No Stale Moves intentional?

Nearly all of the wbr hates move decay. Its exclusion isn't an accident.

I like the set MUCH better with .46 hitstun mod (.44 sucked) and no move staling. I'm not sold on all the changes but overall I think Cape did a great job.

 

[SymphonicSage12]

you mean the lack OF a stale system right? Lack of no stale moves would mean that we're back to vbrawl's system...
*shudders*

 

[Adm. Melonhead]

Alwight juuiys, I got it fixed.

I used the manual installation guide to uninstall it, then installed the updater, which installed it, which then worked.

edit:

I'm still wondering about those SSE stages though.

 

[MK26]

i would like to echo echo's complaint about nat

and is falcon's side-b supposed to be impossibel to combo outo of now?

and Kirby's basically the same, but without a useful nair and no more uthrow combos on bad di

It is just me, or has falcon in general gone out the window? His physics are way off too

 

[SymphonicSage12]

um..no? Falcon is fine...he can still combo uair and up b off of side b.

you must have missed his pac...



And what is so bad about NADT? I don't get it..

 

[Elefterios]

http://www.mediafire.com/file/uwmyzizkhlx/Brawl+_GSH1_Snapshot.zip

replace the .gct with the one provided and put the .bin file in the RSBE's al folder (album folder).

I trust you know how to use snapshots though.

much appreciated kind sir.

 

[MK26]

um..no? Falcon is fine...he can still combo uair and up b off of side b.

you must have missed his pac...



And what is so bad about NADT? I don't get it..

well...it sends your opponent about 3 times higher than it did before...

and i just dont like NAT. I think it's completely unnecessary.

 

[SymphonicSage12]

no it doesn't lol....it should be about the same....you just have a weird pac or no pac at all lolz


you could also just full jump or full jump + DJ. you still have plenty of time lolz

 

[[TSON]]

It's totally necessary, it's a combo rapist in a combo oriented hack. L2CommonSense

 

[Dan_X]

NADT is awesome, seriously I love it. It's no longer spam dodge then dodge... You actually have to work for it. This makes strings and combos more interesting because strings can continue longer if your enemy fails to wiggle out of tumble in time.

This mechanic has certainly brought B+ in the right direction.

 

[Magus420]

Raptor boost actually has growth so it doesn't send heavy/FFers pretty much nowhere at low damage and combo into knee at like 150% even on light and floaty characters. Shocking. It wasn't given nearly enough KBG in "RC1" to go with the BKB reduction it got due to being added late and not being tested. Also the strong hit of dash attack was changed from a 65 angle to 55. They're missing from the list of changes though.

 

[SymphonicSage12]

*reads Orca's post*
YES. YES. YES!


(does the same thing with magus's post)

 

[Alphatron]

The text file for this beta is the exact same as the one the gct is made from, right? I'm asking because this wasn't the case with 5.0, as making a gct with that txt file caused desynched replays and in online.

I'm gonna try to use the autoupdater to test this out if the online buffer has been fixed already. Also, why not just include a premade ASM code for the SSE stages?

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

Toon Link freezes no matter what. All I have in my TL folder is the .pac.

I updated several times. Anyone else got this?

 

[SymphonicSage12]

nope. the only people that freeze for me is jigglypuff versus an individual pokey.

 

[[TSON]]

G&W vs Dedede = freeze with bair :/

 

[SymphonicSage12]

And cape was saying that this set is stable for tourneys.


:V

Also, does anyone know why I ALWAYS desynch online with other people?

I use the nightly updater. I have all the right files.
I have no textures.

I have no custom stages.

What might be causing the desynchs?


EDIT: Cape, I use gecko 1.9.1.

and cape, try being jigglypuff versus charizard on the sse stage, and repeatedly use down tilt.

 

[The Cape]

What Gecko version are you guys using? Seen freezes with the most current one. I also dont know what is causing the freezes as I havent seen any myself.

 

[Jer]

It's not freezing for me with Jiggz vs Charizard on SSE.

I have version 1.9.1 of Gecko

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

1.9.1 or gtfo.

No one else freezes for meh.

 

[[TSON]]

Also, does anyone know why I ALWAYS desynch online with other people?

I use the nightly updater. I have all the right files.
I have no textures.

I have no custom stages.

What might be causing the desynchs?

Buffa dun work

 

[SymphonicSage12]

I thought the buffer was fixed...

and when I leave the group, they can play no problem..

 

[VietGeek]

vietgeek is using gecko 1.9.3

idk it seems to float his boat

get it off the wiird forum that gecko's google page links to

 

[[TSON]]

Uhh, why, in my Ike folder, is there a folder for every character alphabetically before him? XD

 

[VietGeek]

ike fights for his friends

i thought this was obv