Best doubles matchups

[DK SPEED DK]

I was going to play brawl doubles in tournaments from now on and was wondering what was the best match up so far?

 

[Seagull Joe]

too many possibilities for doubles matchups to count. there are over 1000 doubles possibilities. any team with mk works well.

 

[gallax]

i would think that a team that has zss and lucas/ness/gaw would be good for obvious reasons.

buti think that a team with heavy characters would be best. wario on teams is ****. hes heavy and can manuever really well. DDD is a good teams partner.

 

[Battousai780]

Game and Watch plus Zero Suit Samus is pretty awesome. Dsmash into bucket = free KO

 

[Inui]

Meta Knight + Game and Watch
Meta Knight + Wario
Meta Knight + Dedede
Meta Knight + Meta Knight
Meta Knight + Snake
Snake + Wario
Snake + Game and Watch
Snake + Dedede

Gimmicky stuff actually isn't that good, so screw ZSS/whatever.

 

[JustKindaBoredUKno]

G&W + MK is, without a doubt, the best team.

 

[bibleonian]

How does Yoshi do in teams? I was thinking about using him or pit.

 

[Mr.-0]

I don't know why MK+wario is a good team. I would think that falco plus snake would eb good. Campapalooza, Cg, and spike + tilts. but I know nothing, so go eiht Zss+GaW

 

[BBQ°]

Wario + G&W is one that I like.

Also, Wario + Wario

 

[tuestresfat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bLsre7dGwM

watch and learn.

 

[JCav]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQILD4vDB_Q



:D

 

[:mad:]

Mario and Luigi enyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7WjRsEgGiY

They're both pretty garbage characters, though.

 

[JCav]

never mind you win

 

[Gindler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bLsre7dGwM

watch and learn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbOd1IzBrLo&feature=related

Learned nothing

I've played this combo a few times, just keep ZSS in the air and nothing happens.

I still like wario+peach myself. Yep sure do

 

[Ruuku]

Pit+Snake is very effective. Pikachu+DDD is pretty good too. I'm thinking, Bowser+G&W would be a good pair. DK+MK sounds good.

 

[hichez50]

I would have to say kirby and diddy or MK and diddy or wario and diddy. Their air game complements diddys ground game. Also kirby can kill a bit easier than diddy.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

I've been having a good time with DDD+Snake. But really, when looking for a partner, G&W is amazing.

 

[Veggi]

I wonder how much shield damage a DK+Peach team would do. Someone shields Peach's dair and then DK side b's the shield. There's also Peach's good damage racking combined with DK's good killing.

I've toyed around with DK+Diddy a lot too and DK can wreck people with bananas. It's amazing. Then there's the obvious killer+damager racker thing. Me and my friend also made up a chain where Diddy sits by the edge and DK cargo down throws them in front of Diddy. Diddy grabs and then DK jumps over and dairs them.

The best team characters are probably Wario and Game and Watch.

 

[Zephil]

I love Marth+Fox... marth spacing and making lots of damage with tilts and when ppl don´t expect it... Fox USMASH... done

 

[shinyspoon42]

Ok, I think this is so obvious it just needs to be said...

MK+MK=best doubles team

 

[Brado]

Falcon does surprisingly well in doubles. Grab + Falcon Punch = Dead

Aside from that DDD + DDD is awesoem.

 

[Ussi]

Mario + vertical attack + cape **** = hahahahaha gg

 

[CT Chia]

Double MK can absolutely shut out some teams with extremely bad matchups, however I feel that they aren't the best team. Only in certain situations.

 

[phi1ny3]

^This.
Wario imo has like one of the best survival rates if he ever has to fight off 2v1 just because of how crazy his air camping is and his kill/punish set isn't too bad (plus he can take some beatings).
It's why I think he makes one of the best doubles partners, on top of good recovery, decent setups, and maneuverability. I don't know for sure THE BEST double team though.

 

[Megavitamins]

Marth and Snake is amazing, as is Marth / Mk

 

[Nitrix]

Wario + MK is a very good team since MK can rack up tons of damage and Wario is VERY good at killing.

 

[Mota]

Someone who can rack damage and someone who can kill relativly easy.

Eg: Metaknight for damage and gimp, Snake for kill.

Toon Link for damage and gimp, Snake/DK/GnW etc

 

[tocador]

DK + Rob is cool :D.

I think DDD/MK/Diddy + Ganon is a cool one too :B.

 

[n88]

Zelda + Sheik=Pure win.

Random+Random is also good.

 

[CRASHiC]

Never doubt DDD and DDD.
dthrow to dtrow
waddle throws on both sides of the stage.
inhale your partner, spit them out for a great kill move.

 

[DK SPEED DK]

Thank you all for your help me and my friend ended up winning the double tourne i was olimar and he was DK didnt think it would work but it did

 

[xDD-Master]

Meta Knight + Game and Watch
Meta Knight + Wario
Meta Knight + Dedede
Meta Knight + Meta Knight
Meta Knight + Snake
Snake + Wario
Snake + Game and Watch
Snake + Dedede

This pretty much, and Snake + Snake I would say.

Generally I would say MK + X or Snake + X is always a good team. Or in other words: MK or Snake is always the best partner you can have.

Afaik Olimars grab does **** in teams too.

 

[Supreme65]

Peach+Snake for me. I use Peach for building up damage and my brother uses ulilt for the kill

 

[Shaya]

MK + Snake is the best possible team combination in the game; THUS FAR.
0 to deaths on the entire cast (with you being able to do it on one opponent or both depending on port priority) many set ups INTO that 0 to death
AND an extremely fast high priority projectile created by an MK and C4 fusion that is Snake's like second most powerful kill move after fsmash.

All you need to see here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFjTkPL0V78

 

[ph00tbag]

I've played this combo a few times, just keep ZSS in the air and nothing happens.

You would have beaten that team even if they didn't have a tactic like that. A ZSS that lets you juggle her, and a G&W that lets you juggle his teammate are going to lose no matter what. Play a pair that know this match-up, and know how to stay grounded, and the pairing will get a lot harder.

The problem is that most of the time when you see this combo, the team doesn't know how to play the strategy, and they don't know how to play if the strategy isn't working. It's got two levels to it, and most people that play it don't know how to do either. In fact, many players just completely ignore the most important part: learn how to play your character in teams. The reason this strategy works is because both characters are strong in teams to begin with, and they've got this tactic that, if the team plays the match right, can wildly shift the momentum, and if nothing else, demoralize the opponent. Unfortunately, most players think that the tactic is enough, and don't learn basic functions in a team, and don't learn how they're going to have to alter their play to accommodate their teammate.

Unfortunately, Wes and Dire were really the only team to have ever made any effective inroads towards working out the way the team should work. I don't know if they're even still play Brawl. I can't think of any major tournaments they've participated in.

I've done a lot of research into the match-up. I've logged several hours of training this match-up with NC-Echo, and while I'm no good in teams, and we've never actually played the team in tourney, we've observed several things about the pairing that most people never even realize, and when I watch most people play it, they just don't play it right. Seriously, Wes and Dire are the closest I've ever seen to anyone playing it right, and Wes at least wasn't even playing ZSS to her top form.

 

[Kewkky]

ph00tbag said what I wanted to say. If you say "juggling ZSS is the answer" and don't see the other opponent stop fighting your ally and go after you to help ZSS, then both players must be below your skill level by a considerable amount. Try against a legit ZSS main and a G&W main, tell me how that works out for you.

As much as I LOVE ZSS+G&W, I just have to agree with the obvious best choice....... MK+MK is, and always will be, the best choice. One MK covering the other MK? You seriously cannot deny that it's an uphill battle for whatever team you're using.

 

[swordgard]

ph00tbag said what I wanted to say. If you say "juggling ZSS is the answer" and don't see the other opponent stop fighting your ally and go after you to help ZSS, then both players must be below your skill level by a considerable amount. Try against a legit ZSS main and a G&W main, tell me how that works out for you.

As much as I LOVE ZSS+G&W, I just have to agree with the obvious best choice....... MK+MK is, and always will be, the best choice. One MK covering the other MK? You seriously cannot deny that it's an uphill battle for whatever team you're using.

I wonder then how doubles MK didnt make it top 2 at genesis.



Seriously, stop throwing random stuff with not evidence.

 

[Shiroi]

Just want to say. LOL @ buckets. XD
Maybe Falco + TL. I'm just throwing out random stuff.
Lol.. they're my mains..

 

[Kewkky]

I wonder then how doubles MK didnt make it top 2 at genesis.



Seriously, stop throwing random stuff with not evidence.

I seriously dislike how you keep looking for ways to argue.

http://www.smashpr.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1668

There. Top 2 teams were MK in Brawl teams. It's not a nation-wide event, but double MK made it top 2. Geez, stop picking fights, I don't even care about tourney results in threads like this, it's mostly out of personal opinions. Why not quote people who say ZSS+G&W instead, or Mario and Luigi? And if I'm using hyperboles to emphasize something, get used to it, I'm not the only one in SWF who does the same thing.

 

[lax guy5]

MK + Wario
Wario + Diddy
GW + Snake
Snake + Wario
Falco + Diddy
Wario + Falco
MK + GW
MK + Diddy
Pikachu + GW
Marth + R.O.B.