I wanna point out that how skilled the Peach player is is important. as with the skill of the meta player does not matter to much since it is meta.
Peach players not doing anything in big tournies, placing high in tournies in thier area but not beating anyone note worthy. Or losing to people/characters that they should be beating.
And the reason for this is cause Peach players are not that good as players. You can have a knife and I have a gun. If I have no clue how to shoot, You are beating me with a knife.
Ganon Vs Meta. Even with how meta carries people (Read Kzissles blog on AiB on this, lot of truth in it) If the meta does not know how to use him and the ganon is a beast of a player in general, Ganon is gonna be all over meta.
No Peach player right now is on a level of the pro players we have today. No one. They can get close to winning but does not happen cause
- It's meta knight (oh winning with meta, who cares really......it's freaking meta) or any other hard match up
- Emeny is pro status or just plain better
- Peach players have yet to achive that level
- And to be they way people play her now, they limit themselves hard.
So if you think. I dont care how one can know thier character, if you are not as good as the enemy, all you gonna get is "almost won, cant win"
Character match ups are not the only part of it. Player skills takes into account. and it seems alot of people tend to forget this so much. I have been through stuff where a person would go meta on me cause it is meta and he knows he won't beat me with others. Yet I still win. Cause I am smarter, and all this dude did was rely on tiers to beat me.
Peach players now are like medicore at best. None are on pro level. None abuse and master all she can do, which needs to happen, thus I say they limit themselves.
X, San, Fow, Sharky. They place well and high at big tournies with thier character. Reguardless of dumb *** match ups. Why, cause they are on pro status as players. And just applied that to thier characters. And abuse fully what they can do. Peach has more options then these characters and is better. yet Peach players cant even make it out of bracket in big tournies. The skill of the player also players a big part. nit just tier whoring and things that is all it takes. Thinking like that is straight dumb. And something people need to realize already. The names I gave are a prime example of this.
So in short, yea the fact that Peach players are not on the same level of thought and skill actually plays a big part to her performance and how she is seen as a character. And people tend to ignore this so they come out on stop and seem like they are write about stuff they say. Think people need to understand the true meaning of the word skills. And what it takes to be good with a character. And as a player in general
meno, i entirely agree with you. however, certain people can't be told that they suck...egos are too big.
also, yeah, NO ONE who plays peach is on the level of the top mks. we have NO m2k, anti, dsf, etc etc. and NO ONE can claim otherwise. if -you- think you're as good as one of those guys....wow. i know we have some cocky peach players, but thinking you're that good would be crossing the line of common sense.
I can't disagree more strongly with you guys. Lots of Peach players have been as good as players like Boss, Shakey, etc on a "skill" level with the game sort of base.
It's funny you guys come to that conclusion. It's based completely off opinion. For example, I can point to tournament results, that suggest since more top level Ness, Luigi, DK, and Ike mains can beat top levle MK mains, it suggests, with real results, that Peach has a worse matchup vs MK compared to these characaters.
When you guys say that Peach mains don't have players who are as skilled as characters of these mains, it's honestly just pulled out of your ***. Do you have any data, reasoning to support this? There have been plenty of Peach mains who have been highly skilled. I find it offensive that you guys would say this is the reason.
When I was playing this game, I would
consistently beat a lot of players in tournament who WERE able to beat players like M2K That suggests that
I was on a high enough skill level as these other character mains yet these character mains could beat MK which I couldn't really do.
The same applies now. A lot of Peach mains can beat players like Boss, Shakey etc. Yet Peach mains can never beat MK players like M2K, Dojo, Tyrant. yet Boss and Shakey type players can. Do you see what the
actual evidence suggests?
Put your emotions and heart aside and look at the reality of what is happening in tournaments all across the world. Peach mains are good enough to beat highly skilled players, but not highly skilled MKs, and yet, these other highly skilled players can beat those same MK's. There is a reason for this, and that reason is that her matchup with MK is a much more up hill battle than it is for most characters who are around her position on the tier list.