That ever happen? Would enjoy an invite. My skype is cpt_ryker. I check it far more often than I check the boards.
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B&B! Zero Suit General Discussion
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Oro?!
Smash Hero
Give me skype names so I can add people.
GMaster171
Smash Ace
Would this be open to those who second ZSS?
Oro?!
Smash Hero
Yeah I don't really care who's in it lol.
GMaster171
Smash Ace
Cool
mine is GMaster171 (yea creative i kno)
mine is GMaster171 (yea creative i kno)
Vickyboi
Smash Cadet
My skype name is "klafsen".
Oro?!
Smash Hero
You don't play Zero Suit, bro.
WIDL
We Are Born
So, has anyone tested ZSS yet? I haven't really noticed anything. It does seem like she has slightly less friction (longer wavedashes and moonwalks), but I'm not sure. I haven't played her that much in 2.5b lately.
-Ran
Smash Master
Her throws are great now. I can't remember if the back side of her Uair sent people backwards, like Ganon's Uair, but it does.
MysteryRevengerson
IT'S A MYSTERY TO ALL
Wavedash feels better, Minimum DownB height is higher? Due to it, you can't divekick as fast (Though it may be because I haven't played her in a while)
Vickyboi
Smash Cadet
You can change directions while doing Up-B.
Have you always been able to do that?
Have you always been able to do that?
Crashflyaway
Smash Rookie
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I'd be down for a ZZS skype chat, having some trouble getting better, all I have locally are 2 casual friends. add crashflyaway
I think you guys found all the changes. Air control for up B, d/u throw improvements, better KB on dash attack, and the ability to footstool like a normal character again, but not on stunned opponents.
I'm really anxious to see what people can do with these new grabs. They open up a lot of possibilities for her against a huge portion of the cast.
I'm really anxious to see what people can do with these new grabs. They open up a lot of possibilities for her against a huge portion of the cast.
Sarix
Smash Ace
I'd be up for joining the skype chat since I do play ZSS as a secondary/possible main option. My skype is Sarixan.
WIDL
We Are Born
So my friend and I played around a lot with 2.6 yesterday, and I noticed that I struggle a lot vs Sheilda.
Any general tips for that matchup? Sheik is the biggest issue for me. I can deal with Zelda OK.
Any general tips for that matchup? Sheik is the biggest issue for me. I can deal with Zelda OK.
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
Maybe I'm just scrubby but I still have problems KOing with ZSS.
She has moves that kill but only fsmash is especially good at it.
BTW, either I only noticed for the first time after patching Project M or it's new/much easier in 2.6, but down-b can wall-hop which has saved my life a few times, lol.
She has moves that kill but only fsmash is especially good at it.
BTW, either I only noticed for the first time after patching Project M or it's new/much easier in 2.6, but down-b can wall-hop which has saved my life a few times, lol.
SpiderMad
Smash Master
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D-smash is technically another kill move from getting F-smash out of it lol. You guys never made a good guide of when to D-smash twice on someone and what to do after it and stuff, hopefully enough people join the skype group and I can make a public Twitch/Podcast of the call to find this out
Oro?!
Smash Hero
Are you only hitting with sour spots? Bair kills at 135% with good DI on fat characters.
I was thinking 150%, actually, but I didn't want SFP to ***** and moan that, no, bair is a terrible KO move because reasons, so I overshot my own estimations.
I don't really pay attention to percent over 100%. Once I see three digits, I just start fishing for bairs and try to get my KOs off edgeguards.
I'm only being slightly serious.
I don't really pay attention to percent over 100%. Once I see three digits, I just start fishing for bairs and try to get my KOs off edgeguards.
I'm only being slightly serious.
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
I just opened training mode, bair'd DK from the center at 135%, DI'd with the other controller, and not only did he not die, he didn't even really come close. what?
Also, ph00t, whether or not you believe with me or my criticisms are founded, I'm definitely not "******** and moaning" and I'll be perfectly happy if nothing is changed and continue to play ZSS. But I don't think she'll be very good in the grand scheme of things.
Also, ph00t, whether or not you believe with me or my criticisms are founded, I'm definitely not "******** and moaning" and I'll be perfectly happy if nothing is changed and continue to play ZSS. But I don't think she'll be very good in the grand scheme of things.
Oro?!
Smash Hero
DK is one of the easiest characters to edgeguard as ZSS. Even if it doesn't kill, it means inevitable death. I don't know when you just hit with a raw move in the middle of the stage with no setup and expect it to kill though. I never have problems killing DK at that percent because it's usually in an edgeguard or a setup towards the edges of stages.
dodgepong
Smash Rookie
Add me to the Skype chat, mindstorm23
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
Sorry, I'm somewhat defensive because my posts are not well-received around here... I have some reservations about the project over all that are well-known.
Riddlebox
Smash Journeyman
Oro?!
Smash Hero
If I guess wrong, I'm sorry for your loss.
SpiderMad
Smash Master
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nML5GOxTWNM
Laser to Dash, you can't drop through platform with a dash. You can with a shield.
Laser to Dash, you can't drop through platform with a dash. You can with a shield.
HiniCheese
Smash Rookie
WAO!
I wanna be a part of the spamming of letters! anthonyvolke
Ryobeat
Smash Ace
Yo I've been playing a bunch of ZSS lately, I'm pretty sure Sheik is an awful match up for her It feels like 6-4 honestly. Sheik's needles are amazing for edge guarding her as well as interrupting her movement/ laser setups. Ftlit is also like, the bane of ZSS. It negates ZSS's approach most of the time, since ftilt rise from the bottom. Then I have like, tilts left, which usually get CCed. Grabs are risky as well. I don't know what to do in the matchup, but I find it amazing to play that matchup on platform stages like Dreamland and Dracula's Castle where I can take time and space to set up my offense, as opposed to FD and Metal Cavern are awful for the matchup(and yoshis). What do you guys think?
It feels like 6-4 honestly. Sheik's needles are amazing for edge guarding her as well as interrupting her movement/ laser setups. Ftlit is also like, the bane of ZSS. It negates ZSS's approach most of the time, since ftilt rise from the bottom. Then I have like, tilts left, which usually get CCed. Grabs are risky as well. I don't know what to do in the matchup, but I find it amazing to play that matchup on platform stages like Dreamland and Dracula's Castle where I can take time and space to set up my offense, as opposed to FD and Metal Cavern are awful for the matchup(and yoshis). What do you guys think?
SpiderMad
Smash Master
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Up-b stuff, Wavebounce stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJm0Wi5O2-U
Laser shield drop (in game)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3t4ImMtkQw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJm0Wi5O2-U
Laser shield drop (in game)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3t4ImMtkQw
I'll join the skype too. Messaged you my skype, Oro?!
People still using excessive blasters these days?
Still not a fan of the projectile game... and use it as a tool for presence at most. Meaning, throwing it out once in a while to establish I WILL use it, but hold off on actually using it to simply take what mental advantage of presence it gives while primarily simply falling back to DD Grab/D-Tilt/Aerials instead. Same goes for Side-B too.
I don't get how Blaster + Side-B are supposed to be BnB to ZSS's game, though last I checked, it was the norm...
Is it still the norm?
+ Anyone getting 50% of their kills with DIVEKIKU yet?
People still using excessive blasters these days?
Still not a fan of the projectile game... and use it as a tool for presence at most. Meaning, throwing it out once in a while to establish I WILL use it, but hold off on actually using it to simply take what mental advantage of presence it gives while primarily simply falling back to DD Grab/D-Tilt/Aerials instead. Same goes for Side-B too.
I don't get how Blaster + Side-B are supposed to be BnB to ZSS's game, though last I checked, it was the norm...
Is it still the norm?
+ Anyone getting 50% of their kills with DIVEKIKU yet?
SpiderMad
Smash Master
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Zss can't go under too many stages, but she can do SV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbGkMzlwnLc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbGkMzlwnLc
shadow0x0cloud
Smash Apprentice
Can someone give me a rundown of ZSS. Like how she should be played / how i should play her? I want to do better than F-Smash all the things