Aura Malarkey in 3D .:. Lsgd

[RT]

Dude, yesterday, I literally tripped like 4 times in less than 30 seconds. It was sooooooooo ********.

This game is so ******** sometimes.

 

[MythTrainerInfinity]

Yo FlameWaveK, Zao wants you in #LucarioMeta now.

 

[Steam]

Can someone tell me how to punish Falco's IAP? I'm losing games to falcos much worse than me with Luc because they just phantasm to reset. I had to resort to doing a falco ditto to win after winning on frigate because i can't punish it with luc even if I make a full commitment and guess right...

 

[Dark 3nergy]

Dude, yesterday, I literally tripped like 4 times in less than 30 seconds. It was sooooooooo ********.

This game is so ******** sometimes.

i trip like every match

welcome to my world ....sigh

 

[Linkshot]

You're a D3. You're always running to regrab.
It's karma.

 

[AlexoftheAura]

they should come to the WC sometimeeeee

Party at Flamey's :D

 

[Milln]

Steam, was there any BlazBlue there?

 

[Espy Rose]

i trip like every match

welcome to my world ....sigh

Darkz. Everyone not named Wario/Meta Knight/Falco trip every match.
It sucks.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

espy unlike us tards that run on the ground those characters are actually smart enough to stay in the air with da exception of falco since he can CG

You're a D3. You're always running to regrab.
It's karma.

i cant help it sometimes i trip over my own fat

 

[Steam]

Steam, was there any BlazBlue there?

Yes, the blazblue finals were WAAAAAY more hyped than brawl finals. mainly because about 5 people watched brawl grand finals.

can someone answer my falco question?

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Tell me what exactly IAP is and I could prolly help. Instant Aerial Phantasm?

 

[Dark 3nergy]

yes its that...*face palm*

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Well gawsh excuse me

Spoiler

princess

for not being Denzi.

 

[tedward2000]

Derp. Tourney was fun. Messed around, and only played my lucario like twice. It was all wonky, being their first time running a brawl tournament, but they were making changes as we were going. Random is my hero though, I random'ed and got Captain Falcon and went to town.

Knocked out in Semi-finals due to stupidity and trying other characters that wern't lucario. Disappoint.

 

[Steam]

... yeah indy

:U

 

[Milln]

Yes, the blazblue finals were WAAAAAY more hyped than brawl finals. mainly because about 5 people watched brawl grand finals.

can someone answer my falco question?

Prolly cause BlazBlue is a better gaaaaaaame woop woop woop *runs from potential people chasing him*

For Falco if you expect an Instant Aerial Phantasm, you can pre-empt him with an upsmash. You'll either clank and go back to neutral or he'll end up hit. Once this happens a few times, they'll stop doing it altogether, probably.

 

[Col. Stauffenberg]

*Tackles Milln-Sensei*

 

[Milln]

*Tackles Milln-Sensei*

alkjfhihq iuqenj kdgnjks nga gd *is crashed into the ground*

 

[culexus・wau]

DOGPILE

*jumps in*

 

[Dark 3nergy]

*sips tea*

how uncivilized

 

[Steam]

Would Dtilt be better vs. phantasm? :/

upsmash is 2 slow...

I wish we had an easy way through phantasm... it's the only move I have trouble with... and I have more trouble with it than any other move in the game

*throws dark in pile and jumps in pile*

inb4yiffpile

 

[Dark 3nergy]

*sits ontop of pile*

*sips tea*

cant lucy fsmash falco? or AS?

 

[Milln]

If upsmash is too slow, use Ftilt. I doubt dtilt has the vertical to hit him.

Fsmash would be too slow and might not have the vertical.

Aurasphere same thing.

 

[culexus・wau]

why not uptilt.

or just shield the **** thing you don't have to punish it ALL the time.


btw I can vouch for dtilt/jab working on low phantasms.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

mmm i think ftilt would prolly make me more comfortable in terms of hitting him out of it.


what about a grab?

 

[culexus・wau]

We're not DDD.

our grab isn't a giant disjoint.

that being said I've done it before.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

lmafo flamey u pro troll

yall got a pivot grab for a reason son

 

[culexus・wau]

Boost pivot grab might work.

I'm not trolling

or at least trying to.

maybe I'm just a natural troll?

 

[Pitbuller26]

Trap or troll. You can't be both.

 

[AlexoftheAura]

Don't traps troll straight guys all the time though? :X

 

[Steam]

the annoying thing about clinging with phantasm is falco has a frame 2 jab...

and I don't have a problem with shielding it. I just have to learn to beat it when falco plans on lasering and phantasming fror 8 minutes.

 

[culexus・wau]

any disjoint will **** it btw.

FAIR/NAIR/DAIR FTW

 

[Steam]

so if I fair or dair or nair it will even beat the first half?

 

[ShippoFoxFire]

Turnaround charge big AS

flaco will ram into it

ram into blue balls of justice

shippo smash works also :3

 

[phi1ny3]

the reason being falco's hitbox is behind his hurtbox. The only reason stuff doesn't seem to go through it as much is because lots of people mistime/hit the first invincible part of the phantasm.

yes, even AS charge will hit him, although not recommended as it's borderline wasteful of an opportunity of a read of that caliber.

 

[culexus・wau]

idk phil the shock of getting aurasphere charged could give us enough time to nair.


Vs people who know the MU I don't see it working though, for sure.

 

[Aurasmash14]

FP grab him straight out of the phantasm.

hardly ever works, but its funny as hell.

he charges you, and your all like *snatches out of the air, Gut punches*

 

[iRJi]

...

Guys, come on. give him something useful LOL.

The way you punish it is by reads. It's actually not that hard when you get use to it. If you feel he is going to phantasm, then just make that read, roll backwards if you are grounded, and punish accordingly. Any move can beat phantasm out, it is just a matter of hitting it since Falco is there for only 3 parts of it. Just takes practice, and you will get it down.

Examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYjMckf3I6c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQIj2amnAzE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t33xp_ysEKo

Hope this helps.

 

[Aurasmash14]

oh come on. i was just having a bit of fun.

seriously though, i remember my first reaction to a phantasm was fair actually. iirc it was quite reliable.

 

[Steam]

back rolling never worked for me vs. phantasm. I tried time and time again... roll just wasnt quick enough