TheLastCacely
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i would say falco can out camp fox. if fox gets hit, he gets stunned and has to reposition himself, allowing more time to past that he is not shooting back.
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Denzi
Smash Master
Fox holds down B. Falco has to approach. Seems like out-camping to me. But no, with Fox's fall speed he has a hard time getting out of the water, so I think you could take him there too, albeit to less of an effect.
Also note that Fox has a simple reflector that can easily send Falco's stunning lasers back at him.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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It is a falco meme, you are supposed to feint ignorance when someone asks this qusestion.
Oh I see. My mistake.
Crisis
Smash Ace
Advice on falco dittos? Should I laser at all?
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
lol at the narrow mindedness
fox has reflector, falco must approach...
lawl.
not if you have the lead, which is whats going to happen if you shield foxs first approach.
fox has reflector, falco must approach...
lawl.
not if you have the lead, which is whats going to happen if you shield foxs first approach.
Denzi
Smash Master
If he makes a first approach.
clowsui
Smash Legend
Falco v Fox camp game is even, I played Zephil and Asdioh in several serious matches in the same day at Nope's and I didn't really get a camping edge on either of them nor did they get one on me
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
nobody camps forever and fox doesnt usually camp for long at all.
depending on the player ( this is how it is for my fox) the lasers are only to lull people into thinking that im going to fall back and shoot at them, and then dash attack/dair/what have you before they react.
you shield that first attack, chain grab for 50-90 % and boom, you dont need to approach anymore.
Occasionally, but not too much or they'll (obviously) just get reflected. A good time for lasers is mostly while they recover, to screw it up. It can also give you time to position yourself to punish.
Uh, in my experiences, try to avoid the grab. It will make everything a lot easier in the end. If they do get it (which is very possible), try to DI/tech it. Don't try too hard to get the grab...trust me. You may not even realize how hard you're trying to but it won't go well at all. Dair helps a lot, I found, onstage and as a spike.
Just play very carefully at early %.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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The only thing I know for certain in this match-up is avoid getting grabbed, but get the grab on them.
The rest seems to be about paying attention to what the other person will do.
The rest seems to be about paying attention to what the other person will do.
Ares
Smash Journeyman
Guess you haven't played anyone from Kansas...
Ares
Smash Journeyman
If i'm not mistaken..just reflector.
M-Wolf
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Aren't there a few more?
Slain Avenger
Smash Ace
There are a couple of attacks that can make you pratfall at certain percents...
F-tilt 75~ the last hit of Nair, get up attack. But Reflector is the only attack that makes you trip per say, and it has enough landing lag to make it so that you can't really capitalize on it much.
F-tilt 75~ the last hit of Nair, get up attack. But Reflector is the only attack that makes you trip per say, and it has enough landing lag to make it so that you can't really capitalize on it much.
TheLastCacely
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i dacus or iap after the trip. gets them some times.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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I am pretty sure any move that does not have set knockback can lead to a trip. The percentages and chances of it happening vary is all.
teluoborg
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Uair sends upward, every "tripping" move has a very low angle.
So no.
So no.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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The regular hit will send them up, but the pitiful hit is a dud move.
da K.I.D.
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goodness, people need to brush up on their brawl physics...
TheLastCacely
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What moves should falco use for zoning?
EpixAura
Smash Journeyman
Can Falco use buffered pivot grab when Z is set to jump? If not, is there some easy control setting for SH Illusion that I can use buffered grabs with?
Denzi
Smash Master
I keep Z grab and set a shoulder button to Special. I don't need two shields anyway.
You can Boost Pivot Grab without Z though, yes. You don't even need a button set to grab, you can use L/R+A instead (no C-Stick involved in that method). You just have to dash a bit longer.
I see that people were talking about tripping and I was wondering what exactly happend at 4:29 of this vid(u-tilt)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcbTxYTK7sk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcbTxYTK7sk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Lasers?
And when the zone starts to crumble, protect yourself with jabs and tilts and try to not being predictable with sideB and then reset it again.
Coming from someone who plays against Falco a lot.
SlashTalon
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Yumewomiteru
Smash Master
Z-jump is exactly what I do, you can buffer pivot grab if you set y or x to grab and use that. And boost pivot grab you can do c-stick down > back on control stick + shield.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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Nothing wrong with default. Some people merely like to use slightly altered controls for either helping them get it done right or something that feels more natural perhaps.
teluoborg
Smash Otter
You can use L/R instead of Z.
Because the game will read the [shield] input of L/R + the [attack] input of C-stick.
You can SH illusion with standard controls by sliding your thumb from Y to B.
Also the B in BPG is for Boost, not Buffer.
What's a dud move ?
Crisis
Smash Ace
Do I need to buffer the dash grab for the cg on ZSS and olimar. They keep breaking out.
MARLX
Smash Journeyman
Well i see your point but remember that there are surten lag or weak points in which you can use an attack.
MARLX
Smash Journeyman
For the grab do the oppisote of what you are doing the grab or its just the timing.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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dud
(adjective)
--means to have little or no value
A "dud move" therefore is a move that has little or no value too it. The sourspot on Uair does fixed knockback so therefore I called it a dud move. (With the intention in mind that one would try to kill with it, one could probably do some sort of combo off of this).
(adjective)
--means to have little or no value
A "dud move" therefore is a move that has little or no value too it. The sourspot on Uair does fixed knockback so therefore I called it a dud move. (With the intention in mind that one would try to kill with it, one could probably do some sort of combo off of this).