BBoyindo
Smash Ace
Lol Schwaumlaut you have the 2000th post in this threadXD. I wanted it
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Ask a quick question, get a quick answer (The Marth FAQ's)
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Wafflez
Smash Journeyman
The Link boards are actually the most friendly and close community I've been in so far. Everyone is really polite to one another, and since there are few Link mainers, everyone knows one another and everyone is pretty much a friend. There are two exceptions to everyone being polite and courteous:
Ray Kalm
Aurashade
Aurashade deserves respect seeing as he single-handedly prevented the Link boards from being overrun by nooby spammage through flaming. Not exactly a great way to be renowned, but the Link boards respect him for what he's done. Be nice to him and he'll leave you alone is pretty much the message.
And Ray Kalm... I dunno, I refuse to accept that he's really a part of the Link Boards, he manages to upset a lot of people, even when he has the best intentions.
Sorry for the uninformative post, I just don't want people getting the wrong perception of the Link Boards. We seem to be looked down on as some of the most useless people on SWF...
¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯
Smash Legend
Link Boards can't touch us tho.
Actually, I'm really proud of you guys lately: I haven't had to do much closing or infracting at all (baring the occasional noobie who can't find the Marth Guides)
*wipes tears from eyes*
You just....grow up so fast!
*wipes tears from eyes*
You just....grow up so fast!
Schwaumlaut
Smash Apprentice
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Oh, man, I didn't even notice that.Lol Schwaumlaut you have the 2000th post in this threadXD. I wanted it
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And I filled it with "USE CANDLES".
lawl
¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯
Smash Legend
I made a Nair thread, let me find it one sec. Here: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=211937
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
QFT, that was
Yeah, Aura can get a bit off the rocker.
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
Lol yeah, I havn't had to say much either.Actually, I'm really proud of you guys lately: I haven't had to do much closing or infracting at all (baring the occasional noobie who can't find the Marth Guides)
*wipes tears from eyes*
You just....grow up so fast!
Nightshine
Smash Journeyman
Is it better to fthrow, uthrow, or dthrow or would it matter depending on damage % and the character yor fightng against?
legion598
Smash Ace
^thats a very broad question, at really low percents go for Fthrow>Fsmash and after that use Uthrow to start juggles and use both Fthrow and Dthrow to control your spacing and never use Bthrow
chaosscizzors
Smash Journeyman
i was playimg against a cpu earlier and i did a footstool and imediately did a dolphin slash for a stage spike.
i'm assuiming someone already found out that footstool into dolphin slash combo already but i just wanted to be sure.
old?
i'm assuiming someone already found out that footstool into dolphin slash combo already but i just wanted to be sure.
old?
Kishin
Smash Ace
Is there a video out there with more than 2 hits? I've searched Youtube but failed to get a good result. I've tried it a couple times but then I question if it's actually possible since it seems no one has actually accomplished it yet.
Doomblaze
Smash Journeyman
no problem its informative enough, thats all i wanted to know
@ bengalz: thanks, if i ever have a lot of time on my hands ill try that
i just found that thread rather funny...
@ kishin: we dont have a very good jab lock, and although i think its possible to get off more than two hits, its better to just Fsmash or something else
@chaosscizzors: footstool to tipper Dair is better IMO because its almost guarenteed, i havent seen anyone do footstool--> DS before though, any chance you could put up a vid?
chaosscizzors
Smash Journeyman
just try it, FS and DS right after. it's probably easier if you just tap jump off them and hit B. i would post a vid but i don't have the equipment to do it.
it was kinda a fluke, but if you think about it going for a footstool would keep you from lagging and with good reflexes it would garantee a sweet spotted DS.
it was the sexiest looking fluke ever lol.
it was kinda a fluke, but if you think about it going for a footstool would keep you from lagging and with good reflexes it would garantee a sweet spotted DS.
it was the sexiest looking fluke ever lol.
Takumaru
Smash Lord
The fourth hit on dancing blade, what's the difference between using the up hit and the forward hit? I know they send opponents in different directions but when do you use one over the other?
BBoyindo
Smash Ace
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=172466
The upwards hit can activate a juggle trap and it kills earlier when in the center of the stage, and it also pokes though the bf platforms but that's just a little thing. The red hit is like a standard move which just send them away, but at higher percents it can set up for edgeguarding and it can kill earlier then blue when near the edge.
Nightshine
Smash Journeyman
I just got a bunch of questions comming up lately xD
This sorta goes for every character but I use Marth so I'm asking it here =/.
If your opponent shields one of your attacks does your move still get decayed and not do as much damage or knockback? Like if u break someones shield with shieldbreaker does that decay the shieldbreaker?
This sorta goes for every character but I use Marth so I'm asking it here =/.
If your opponent shields one of your attacks does your move still get decayed and not do as much damage or knockback? Like if u break someones shield with shieldbreaker does that decay the shieldbreaker?
ZHMT
Smash Lord
If you hit their shield or break it there is no decay.
I'm pretty sure the foe is forced to stand back up at that point. Mostly because the distance he gains and the distance you must walk get to the point where by the time you get to him, the lock time would have expired and a get-up would be forced.
With Icicles or lasers, their speed is fast enough and can be done far away, without the user needing to make up distance, which is why they work until you get to the ledge.
TL;DR - not really possible since walking+fail buffering mechanics don't work in your favor in this case.
Love to be proven wrong though.
What I don't understand is their bitterness toward Toon Link users. Would you mind explaining this to me?
Remzi
formerly VaBengal
Viet, they hate TL users because they hate having a less badass version of the same character be so much better. I can't blame them >_> It pisses me off too, but I like both of them.
BacklashMarth
Smash Lord
Fighting Snake = Dancing Blade up
Fighting Marth = Dancing Blade normal
Fighting MK = Dancing Blade until MK decides its time to drop his shield and Dsmash you >.>
On a slightly more serious note, up dancing blade is good to set up for juggles or just to bait an airdodge for further punishment, etc. When you are just racking damage on your opponent when you are punishing a move, use the normal version.
Kishin
Smash Ace
I've been testing it out a bit now and I've been seeing some pretty reasonable results for it actually working. If I manage to do a near full stage jab lock then I'll send the replay to someone for a video.
EDIT: I have a replay of me getting 13 straight jabs on ganondorf at FD until I mess up with a forward tilt. I might be doing the jab lock wrong or something though....
Villi
Smash Lord
At 1:14 on this video, I think Marth did a dthrow on me but I hit the floor? I didn't don't even... this is possible?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4cSfBQdDIQ&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4cSfBQdDIQ&fmt=18
ZHMT
Smash Lord
It may have been simply the percentage of Peach and DI of the throw combined causing that.
magikguy
Smash Lord
ahh i don't wanna be that marth :'( .
Villi
Smash Lord
So it's possible to DI Marth's DThrow into the ground? Which means it's possible to tech it. Does anybody know the input? *has no Wii *
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Doomblaze
Smash Journeyman
It looks to me like its something to do with being off of the stage when you get thrown since i have never seen this before, and the peach was in the air when she was grabbed.
or its the DI w/ peachs %
Im probably wrong but theres my 2 cents
or its the DI w/ peachs %
Im probably wrong but theres my 2 cents
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
Hey, i've read some guides and matchups and what not, and some of them suggest there is a 0% death combo on Falco and i think the other spacies is it true and if so how does it work?
AndrewCarlson
Smash Journeyman
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Basically, F-throw x2 (might be able to fit in 3, not too sure) to D-air at very low percents. After a certain percent, they can DI from the throw and avoid the D-air.
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
So does this only work on Falco or others?
Ty by the way, very helpful.
Ty by the way, very helpful.
AndrewCarlson
Smash Journeyman
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It works on all the fast fallers, but it's only a death combo on Spacies because of their horrible recovery. A simple edgehog will stop them whereas other characters can survive after meteor cancelling the D-air's downward momentum. I believe it's still good for setting up for Marth's excellent edgeguarding skills.
7ACE7
Smash Apprentice
If I main marth, what is a good secondary to have to deal with his bad matchups?
AndrewCarlson
Smash Journeyman
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Falco probably. Or Meta Knight due to his similar playstyle compared to Marth.
Punishment Divine
Smash Champion
Marth doesn't have a lot of trouble with many characters, although against MK you might have some trouble. Whichever character you feel comfortable with to deal with your bad matchups would work. Although it's a very broad answer, there isn't really a straight forward answer to the question you asked.
AndrewCarlson
Smash Journeyman
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Since this was overlooked in the other thread, I figure it's worth a shot posting my question again here.
When using F-throw to chain-grab fast-fallers, is it best to go for 3 grabs or just 2? I understand they can DI after the second throw. And is it advisable to add in a few pummels on the last grab before leading to a F-smash or Dancing Blade for extra damage?
Lastly, can D-throw chain-grab as well as F-throw? And on the same characters?
When using F-throw to chain-grab fast-fallers, is it best to go for 3 grabs or just 2? I understand they can DI after the second throw. And is it advisable to add in a few pummels on the last grab before leading to a F-smash or Dancing Blade for extra damage?
Lastly, can D-throw chain-grab as well as F-throw? And on the same characters?
Punishment Divine
Smash Champion
I find that the third is really easy to DI so I go for 2 just go be safe. Against someone like Falco you can eat a lot of damage for missing that third grab.
Dthrow is a tech-chase really. You might get a regrab off of it but it's not legit. better to go for a dtilt or something
Dthrow is a tech-chase really. You might get a regrab off of it but it's not legit. better to go for a dtilt or something
Shockdrake
Smash Cadet
To momentum cancel, you have to use your second jump. Because of this, I've fallen into the habit of momentum canceling anything that knocks me far enough offstage that the bubble picture appears. The problem is that when I come back to the stage, I don't have my 2nd jump to play stall games with. I look at all the great marth videos here, and all of the good players don't seem to momentum cancel. They just DI the hit and hope (or know by experience?) that they won't die off the side.
My main is ROB, although I'm almost as good at Marth now as I am at ROB. As ROB, I just use my jump because I can Robo Burner anywhere I want. But as Marth... should I not be momentum cancelling as Marth?
My main is ROB, although I'm almost as good at Marth now as I am at ROB. As ROB, I just use my jump because I can Robo Burner anywhere I want. But as Marth... should I not be momentum cancelling as Marth?
Villi
Smash Lord
To momentum cancel, you should be using a fair. Weigh your options... if you still think you're going to die, double jump and do another fair. Try to get a feel for it in friendlies. Do two or three fairs instead of jumping and try to remember what will kill you and what won't.