PEACE7
Smash Champion
Good stuff SFP good luck today.
Also does anyone know if Y.B.M still uses ZSS?
Also does anyone know if Y.B.M still uses ZSS?
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ZSS General Discussion
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FightAdamantEevee
Smash Lord
I wanna be a zss main like the rest of the cool ppl
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Not as technical, don't play her. <3
Start with d-smash and reading landings.
Start with d-smash and reading landings.
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Coolwhip
Smash Champion
-I played him a few weeks ago on wi-fi....-
infiniteV115
Smash Hero
He means offline
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
I know.....
Dakpo
Smash Lord
He plays both kirby and zss, it honestly just depends on how he feels when he wakes up that day or something
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
I'm starting to get really good with zss, Good enough to the point that she will be my co-main.
Watching videos & reading guides has been great so far.
Besides....i need a backup high-tier character to use. lol
Not saying that i'm trash with my plumber....i make him look mid-tier at best.
Watching videos & reading guides has been great so far.
Besides....i need a backup high-tier character to use. lol
Not saying that i'm trash with my plumber....i make him look mid-tier at best.
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
I did well at my smashfest (I won most of my games, NatP gave me some trouble... I think we went even-ish?), but we were all pretty out of practice. The portuguese players love their low tiers, but a lot of the players here are pretty talented. I got some nice sets in vs. Flayl (bowser main who is pretty active around here), NatP (really solid game and watch player, if he practiced a lot in a better region he'd be so scary), NGFC (ultimate sandbagging but a good Yoshi), BigLord's Captain Falcon, and a few others.
How do you guys feel about the GaW match-up? NatP is close so I could get together and play with him more often. If it weren't for the fact that ZSS can die so early I'd say she has a slight advantage, but I'm inclined to say it felt pretty even. It felt pretty bad once I was off-stage, no matter how I tried to mix up my recovery, he could just react to what I did. Jab combo is your best friend, lol.
I tried putting into practice a more horizontal ground-oriented style as favored by Salem and Quiksilver, I think it's far superior to the old launch-n-juggle style assuming you really abuse ZSS' ground speed and the ridiculously OP/safe ground-reverse paralyzer, RAR bair, and sh fair. I'm also experimenting with a Marth secondary because I think playing Marth teaches you to read opponents (marth has a very clear bait/punish game).
Also, up-b->dsmash->uair->up-b->bair. It still works, baby!
How do you guys feel about the GaW match-up? NatP is close so I could get together and play with him more often. If it weren't for the fact that ZSS can die so early I'd say she has a slight advantage, but I'm inclined to say it felt pretty even. It felt pretty bad once I was off-stage, no matter how I tried to mix up my recovery, he could just react to what I did. Jab combo is your best friend, lol.
I tried putting into practice a more horizontal ground-oriented style as favored by Salem and Quiksilver, I think it's far superior to the old launch-n-juggle style assuming you really abuse ZSS' ground speed and the ridiculously OP/safe ground-reverse paralyzer, RAR bair, and sh fair. I'm also experimenting with a Marth secondary because I think playing Marth teaches you to read opponents (marth has a very clear bait/punish game).
Also, up-b->dsmash->uair->up-b->bair. It still works, baby!
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
I no longer started the ground-based style for ZSS. I'm out.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
yeah Nick
obv
obv
PEACE7
Smash Champion
Alright thanks guys its just I saw him go Kirby at Whobo a lot so yea.
Also good stuff SFP :D
Also good stuff SFP :D
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
LOL, that isn't what I meant. Salem/Quik tend to try to keep opponents at a horizontal axis (Salem moreso), rather than attempting to keep them in the air all the time. You definitely play a more vertical game, even if you focus more on her ground game.I no longer started the ground-based style for ZSS. I'm out.
You try to keep them above you, Salem tries to keep them to the left or right. Note that I never said you use the launch-n-juggle style, either, you do something else entirely.
Btw, rip launch-n-juggle.
Dakpo
Smash Lord
To be completely honest, the first person to truly abuse her ground game (with actual video) was Mr. R
After watching his zss play, I really started to use grounded B reverses
After watching his zss play, I really started to use grounded B reverses
infiniteV115
Smash Hero
I still launch-n-juggle quite a bit.
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
Can you guys see zamus rise even higher on the tier list? (Whenever the new list comes out)
Dakpo
Smash Lord
Nick and salem are pushing zss further and further up the list
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
I hope i can get my zss skills up like them two. Do they still have beef with each other?!
I mean they both main the same character for crying out loud. LOL
I mean they both main the same character for crying out loud. LOL
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[FBC] Papa Mink
Smash Legend
crying out load indeed
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
I didn't realize i type "load" at first. LOL bad typo on my part. (I'm only human, we all make mistakes)
infiniteV115
Smash Hero
I don't. I'm an alligator.
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Quiksilver got 1st in his pool at SRT. According to AscWolf they were seeded randomly - if you know a thing or two about the japanese scene you'd understandthat he had a pretty tough, very evenly balanced pool:
Pool H: quiKSilver Aki Arika Fenrir FLIP Fujita Iguanaman Kaku Mao Shadow U-non
Aki is a pretty good MK / Falco player, Filip is an OK Falco player, Mao has a pretty decent Pit, Shadow is a good MK [he took a set of Nietono at the last SRBT] and U-non is an IC player who regularly makes the bracket at SRBT tourneys. Fujita is also a Falco player and he made the bracket at Apex 2010. Most of the players in that pool are either Falco or MK but QuiK is pretty good vs Falco and I guess he's good enough a player to beat those decent-but-not-*that*-good MK players. Since he also took sets off Mikeneko and Kuroobi he can be expected to do decently well [top 20 isn't out of the question]. His biggest weakness is Olimar.
Pool H: quiKSilver Aki Arika Fenrir FLIP Fujita Iguanaman Kaku Mao Shadow U-non
Aki is a pretty good MK / Falco player, Filip is an OK Falco player, Mao has a pretty decent Pit, Shadow is a good MK [he took a set of Nietono at the last SRBT] and U-non is an IC player who regularly makes the bracket at SRBT tourneys. Fujita is also a Falco player and he made the bracket at Apex 2010. Most of the players in that pool are either Falco or MK but QuiK is pretty good vs Falco and I guess he's good enough a player to beat those decent-but-not-*that*-good MK players. Since he also took sets off Mikeneko and Kuroobi he can be expected to do decently well [top 20 isn't out of the question]. His biggest weakness is Olimar.
infiniteV115
Smash Hero
Thanks for the update.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
wow good stuff Quik.
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
Quik 2-0 his first match against yuto (marth) in winners.
Dakpo
Smash Lord
keep the updates coming
infiniteV115
Smash Hero
Who did he lose to? I went to sleep.
I'm assuming he lost to like..Nietono + someone, or Brood + someone, or Nietono + Brood XD
Edit: And did he beat anyone notable? I assume so, he got 9th lol
I'm assuming he lost to like..Nietono + someone, or Brood + someone, or Nietono + Brood XD
Edit: And did he beat anyone notable? I assume so, he got 9th lol
He lost to Rain - MK [1st] and Masha - Falco [4th]. Rain beat Otori, Vinnie, quiK and Mikeneko; Masha beat M2K, Kakera, quiK and Earth.
Edit: Including his pool wins he beat Suinoko / Aki, who both got 13th and probably somebody else who got 17th or something like that.
Edit: Including his pool wins he beat Suinoko / Aki, who both got 13th and probably somebody else who got 17th or something like that.
infiniteV115
Smash Hero
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
So impressed!
Luigi player
Smash Master
top 5 for sure
he just has quite a few "not top level" losses which hold him back just a little bit in my opinion
I'm really interested in how cyve will do at BBI. Maybe there will be some suprises...
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Please tell him to stop grabbing when he's at 150.