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Who is the Best Marth right now?(Mew2King excluded)

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I would have to completely disagree at hax vs hack being a dream match up.

I actually would never watch that match if it happened.
**** you! jk

Why don't you think Kirby vs Falcon would be great? I mean ppl thought Mofo vs Hax would be boring but it was great!
 

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I agree. M2K and Ice right now in my view seem about even overall some better at Match-ups than others but overall they play at the same level. M2K doesn't practice the game or play it as actively as before. he feels better fagging his way to the higher places with Sheik...and that is alright. I think by this time next year we'll be at the point when a handful of Marths are = or slightly better than him. and that is a good thing in my view.
ice is not in the same ballpark as m2k im not sure why it's a comparison, he just happens to play all of m2k's char's with the same colors. If you call getting 4-0'd by armada equal to having multiple last stock last match sets with armada as m2k has than you're just straight wrong. In fact ice got 3 stocked match 1 as marth and preceded to go fox on pokemon and still lose, twice. Also if you seriously think that not just one but several marths are going to be better than m2k's I don't see it (maybe taj if he significantly improves but that's it and i feel weird even saying that).
 

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To be fair, Ice plays in PAL, which is a lot harder to beat Armada in, and the only matches Mew2King has beaten Armada in are their very first match and whenever it's Fox on Stadium.
 

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As long as he doesn't run into our sheiks
He'd wreck US Sheik's..lol

ice is not in the same ballpark as m2k im not sure why it's a comparison, he just happens to play all of m2k's char's with the same colors. If you call getting 4-0'd by armada equal to having multiple last stock last match sets with armada as m2k has than you're just straight wrong.

I pretty much always get 4-0'd by Armada in PAL, but I beat him in NTSC.

Does that mean I'm not in my own ballpark? :awesome:
 

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Ice would most likely go Sheik against other Sheik's. it wouldn't be that big of a deal for him. he's similar in skill level to Amsah, so outside of M2K (who would ditto him regardless of what char he would use and most likely win) or perhaps KirbyKaze. I don't see many US Sheiks giving him trouble.
 

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tope would give him more trouble than kk lol
KK pretty much goes dead even with M2k in sheik dittos, and has beat PP at rom and stuff.

Tope loses to kels and stuff =\

Tope>KK versus Falcon
KK>Tope in everything else including salsa dancing
uhh...KK has beat mango's falcon as well as SS so idk bout that.

although kk will say he sucks vs falcon cuz he never plays against them

no disrespect to any of these players. I'm just a huge kk fanboy. :awesome:
 

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Kels is really good.
Ppl sleep on him.
I know smart ppl like jpobs know hes good, but when hes playing well its significantly better than on a normal day.

:phone:
 

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I am the best Marth.

You are all free. C:

@Reneblade:

You said Jpobs and smart in the same sentence. I can't take you seriously.
 

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I know this is a thread about Marth, but the best Sheik in the US is probably Hbox's. I haven't seen it in action, but I bet he can space her bair well.
 

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KK pretty much goes dead even with M2k in sheik dittos, and has beat PP at rom and stuff.

Tope loses to kels and stuff =\

uhh...KK has beat mango's falcon as well as SS so idk bout that.

although kk will say he sucks vs falcon cuz he never plays against them

no disrespect to any of these players. I'm just a huge kk fanboy. :awesome:
who isnt a huge kk fanboy!?!?! :)

still, its indubitably false to say that he goes even with m2k in sheik dittos.

Ice isn't that good. He's well below the jman threshold. I bet zhu would tap him
 

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still, its indubitably false to say that he goes even with m2k in sheik dittos.
...he does tho?

Watch his sets from rom 3 and more recently Smash till you Crash 3.
I mean he doesn't win, but if the set goes game 5, last stock >100%, I consider that going pretty even. :sheikmelee:

edit: whatever kk himself says idgaf, my inner fanboy will prevail!!!
edit2: actually rom was a sweep nvm. WHATEVER KK for prez.
 

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"the jman threshold"
wtf is this?
i call it the jman threshold *****

my theory is that right now, if you could beat jman consistently, you can beat anyone once

LOL

ok thats heavy on speculation

i still believe it tho'

but srsly ice would prob lose to zhu
 

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This game, and especially its players, can't be reduced to a formula.

Player A beats Player B who beats Player C doesn't mean that Player A necessarily beats Player C.
 
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