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Fonz

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It's very telling that you have Snake's crawl rated as sexier than ZSS's.
Stupid sexy Flanders.

KratosAurion192 said:
If you had a gat like diddy did you'd camp to yo...
You bring shame to the great Aurion name. Gat? Try pop gun buddy. That thing sucks complete ***. The only thing Diddy has going for him is comic appeal and face ******.
 

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wars not make one great
Stupid sexy Flanders.



You bring shame to the great Aurion name. Gat? Try pop gun buddy. That thing sucks complete ***. The only thing Diddy has going for him is comic appeal and face ******.
Don't diss diddy. He is amazing :laugh:

I totally agree about the pop gun. I NEVER use it, it's just so terrible.
 

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Comic appeal is pretty much the entire reason I play Wario. He's pretty **** though

BTW, I think Wario is the most in your face, anti-campiest character in the game. No range, no projectile, and not the fastest ground moves or ground speed. He's fun. If people are not having fun playing Brawl, I suggest you pick up Wario.
 

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Stupid sexy Flanders.



You bring shame to the great Aurion name. Gat? Try pop gun buddy. That thing sucks complete ***. The only thing Diddy has going for him is comic appeal and face ******.
I would have been happy to see Kratos in brawl, than I could prove you wrong in that statement ;)

That little pop gun being so horrible was totally part of the joke :D
 

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is it just me or do MD/VA posts just seem better than all others

and by MD/VA i really just mean TA... and by that I really just mean Jancc and Jancc associates
 

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Sorry Shai Hulud, I just don't see how not having fun playing a new game competitively and preferring the older version makes you a scrub. There's nothing wrong with playing to win but I simply don't enjoy playing that style or against it. It's not scrubby to not enjoy a way a game is played at it's current metagame. It just means you prefer a different game. When UNC used to spread the floor and pass the ball around the entire game cause there was no shot clock and win 6-4 it was effective, but god was it boring. Did UNC have fun passing for 40 minutes? I guess they would say they did, but it was so tedious for everyone watching and playing against them that the rules were changed because it would kill basketball's popularity. You can call the teams they played highly recruited scrubs, but the game in it's current form sucked ***, and had to be fixed. There's no easy fix for brawl to make it not suck, so this is the way things are. People will play other games if they don't enjoy it.
You misunderstood me. I wasn't saying that camping makes for fun gameplay, or that Brawl is fun. It says right in my signature I think Brawl sucks. But if you go to Brawl tournaments you should expect people to play to win, even if it makes the game terribly boring. If the game is really too boring to play (which is my current opinion) then you can play another game, like Melee.

I'm not even saying you can't play Brawl competitively and b*tch about it at the same time. But you should b*tch about the game, not about players trying to win by whatever means possible in a game heavily biased towards defensive play.

Acceptable b*tching: "This game is ********. Why are there no comboes? I'm tired of these 7 minute matches."

Scrubby b*tching: "You only beat me because you're gay and camp all the time."

Steel Kangaroo said:
Shai Halud, you're missing the point completely. This is a group of people who were the best at melee, not because they were winning a lot of money, but because the game was fun. While it may look like whining to you, you have to realize these guys are simply saying the game isn't as fun as melee when you camp. Yeah it might be the best strategy because the only way to beat it is to do the same, but do you honestly want to play a tournament where every match is a 6 minute spamfest?
No, having fun does not affect chances of winning. The vast majority of tournament Melee players, myself included, probably have fun playing. It's why we're playing Melee instead of other equally competitive games. But having fun or not has nothing to do with how good someone is.

I sympathize with your criticism of Brawl completely. I hate Brawl. What I don't sympathize with is derision of people like Overswarm, just because he's using "gay" strategies to win. If you accept the premise of competition, you should accept that people will and should play to win. Otherwise what's the difference between your Smash tournament and a random Smashfest with a bunch of scrubs?

Edit: I meant that having fun is not a causal basis for winning. This was clear from the context. PockyD, you're an @sshole.
 

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No, having fun and winning have nothing to do with each other.


LOL

quit while you only look like a minor idiot

yes i know what you probably 'meant' to say but it would've been so easy to say it properly instead of this stupid piece of garbage that you're probably better off not posting at all
 

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We all know what he meant though so I don't think it really matters.
 

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LOL

quit while you only look like a minor idiot

yes i know what you probably 'meant' to say but it would've been so easy to say it properly instead of this stupid piece of garbage that you're probably better off not posting at all
I'm confused as to how what he said was wrong.

Half the people posting in this thread say they hate Brawl and are still playing it... so... they're either all hypocritical liars or can openly admit that there's a difference between "having fun" and "winning", and that one can be more important than the other.
 

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the reason a lot of people like brawl is because they can win

even in melee, if i don't win a match over the course of an hour or two of playing, i'm walking away and doing something else
 

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the reason a lot of people like brawl is because they can win

even in melee, if i don't win a match over the course of an hour or two of playing, i'm walking away and doing something else
Are you implying that those that shouldn't win games are winning them?

I don't know how it is elsewhere, but in the midwest it has been very consistent.
 

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Look I hate camping to no end pisses me off. this is the only way i can put it tho it is by the end of melee I hated that game but I LOVED to hate melee and HATE to hate Brawl.
 

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wtf is up with you guys, we were obviously discussing funniest character/crawl in the game

everything significant about camping in brawl has been said. let that **** go son

i'm gay for KDJ... *kisses*

edit: hova is gay
 

Phyvo

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You guys are all wrong, Ivysaur has the best crawl as it is only detectable by the trained eye.

Crawling Tier List:

Invisible:
Ivysaur

Hillarious:
Wario
Luigi

Sexy?:
Snake
Zero Suit Samus

Goofy:
Diddy Kong
Squirtle
Yoshi

Not very interesting:
Pikachu
Sheik
Lucario
You forgot Bowser. I'd put him on number 3 hilarious.
 

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if thread gets closed TA forums will be reborn. ****, lets just all start going to TA forums again.
 

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It wasn't designed to be competitive, it wasn't designed to be a tourney game, and don't say that melee wasn't because all that matters is the end result
Although this is old, I wanted to point it out. Melee was not designed to be competitive, but you are right, the end result is what matters. Brawl is not designed to be competitive, but I can't help but feel we aren't at the end result yet. In no way am I saying that the end result is bound to be something extraordinary.
 

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Anyone recall that match of m2k vs darkrain on FD? A crew battle i believe.

M2k stayed on the right side of FD, spamming fair and forcing darkrain to approach, threw him off stage and gimped him. For all 3 or 4 stocks. If that isn't CAMPING i don't know what is. And watching marth's spam fair all match, If that isn't BORING i don't know what is.
 

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it was a crew battle and m2k had 2 stocks. of course hes going to camp to get as many stocks off darkrain as possible. still, it is gay and boring to watch. unfortunately, thats ALL brawl is.
 

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i totally agree with mr. regualter. If your out to annoy people and you don't care if you win, then camping is your game. But in reality it is something the competitive gamer has already thought about ways around. Sometimes i'll let a camper win if it means i can force a little more fun out of the match. But if somethings riding on the line, then i'll deal with the annoyance and the camper will be owned. I guess it's just a matter of experience and maturity. Although i will say if your king 3d it's really hard to combat against a camper. But if your using king 3d your... never mind. I'd rather not go there :)
 

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Just got back from a Brawl tournament.

Long story short camping is the best strategy. Not necessarily standing far away and throwing stuff, but just shieldgrabbing or shieldraping anything works. There's really no point in making any aggressive play, the reward for making a direct attack is them shielding and then owning you. You may do 5 damage but they do 30.

There's no point in approaching unless you're Marth or Metaknight. It's just not worth it.
 

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Just got back from a Brawl tournament.

Long story short camping is the best strategy. Not necessarily standing far away and throwing stuff, but just shieldgrabbing or shieldraping anything works. There's really no point in making any aggressive play, the reward for making a direct attack is them shielding and then owning you. You may do 5 damage but they do 30.

There's no point in approaching unless you're Marth or Metaknight. It's just not worth it.
thus the reason i quit competitive brawl I might still do teams if we make it out to tournies but that's it.
 

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it was a crew battle and m2k had 2 stocks. of course hes going to camp to get as many stocks off darkrain as possible. still, it is gay and boring to watch. unfortunately, thats ALL brawl is.
i didnt think it was boring at all. m2k is my fav marth to watch in melee, so the nasty **** was a blast lol. still felt bad for dark rain LOL
 

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darkrain came into that match all pissed off to begin with and left even more pissed off. he obviously was playing dumb and impatient. im not trying to make darkrain johns jus sayin if that worked all the time that would be like every marth falcon match you see. falcon can bait the fair get a grab and ****, not so in brawl, although im still unsure how good gimping is in brawl cuz everyone can sweetspot
 

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Just got back from a Brawl tournament.

Long story short camping is the best strategy. Not necessarily standing far away and throwing stuff, but just shieldgrabbing or shieldraping anything works. There's really no point in making any aggressive play, the reward for making a direct attack is them shielding and then owning you. You may do 5 damage but they do 30.

There's no point in approaching unless you're Marth or Metaknight. It's just not worth it.
Good to see you come to the dark side.
 

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Yeah toward the end of the tourney I just picked G&W and spammed bair. my best matches yet :/

And all that work I had put into Wario too. pfft
 

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No one even camps at all. That's because in Brawl, waiting by one edge of the stage and spamming a move isn't considered camping, it's called Tech Skill.

"Dude, your DDD is MADDD technical."

"Thanks, I probably threw over 50 Waddle Dees on my first stock before I took any damage."
 
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