Yes. He only really has 1 disadvantage, a couple very slight disadvantages (at worst), and then the rest are even or better. Versatile characters ftw.
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Wario Q&A Thread
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Gichan
Smash Champion
Yo phantom, how good is the upB move? I am trying to incorporate that much more now.
I don't personally use it, but some people like it out of shield. It comes out in 5 frames which is pretty quick. Only places I use it are places with edges (like rock stadium wall, or under Corneria's fin).
b0wzr!
Smash Cadet
His last hit on the Up B is easy to DI, so yeah.
Thats the reason why I rarley use it.
Thats the reason why I rarley use it.
Gichan
Smash Champion
I was thinking that near the ledge is the best place as it catches people off guard and you can safely go back on the ledge. I was also thinking on stages like Halberd and BF, with the platform there to cut down the fall time and therefore the lag finish of the move. Are these good options?
Revven
FrankerZ
Okay, yesterday I played a kinda campy R.O.B. Silly thing was, I lost with Wario but, almost won with DK (?? What the ****?) I honestly don't know the Wario vs. R.O.B match-up so can someone give me some advice? I like using Dair a lot and Fair seemed to work quite well against R.O.B, grabbing and Dthrowing didn't do a whole lot (I did try to mind game with it though).
Any ideas?
Edit: Also, what's the Wario vs. Sonic match-up? Is it in Wario's favor?
Any ideas?
Edit: Also, what's the Wario vs. Sonic match-up? Is it in Wario's favor?
ssbbFICTION
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Its good to spotdodge and buffer an up b out of shield because you hit their arm and get a ton of damage. Then you DI away and FF and they usually cant punish it. (or try to go for a ledge or platform)
Corrupted Mind
Smash Cadet
When playing with wario is it more beneficial to have tap jump on or off?
It's personal preference... I hate tap jump on everyone, lol. It makes meteor canceling way easier, though.
Popertop
Smash Champion
wario vs Rob is even.
don't dthrow him to much, you might get dsmashed, depends.
I usually fthrow.
you can gimp him if he uses his jump.
it's also a free waft, but watch out for his Uair, it has lots of priority.
wario beats sonic, pretty bad.
Spamerer doesn't play Wario, and he hasn't VSed Fiction ever. He picked him once against Ally.
YagamiDark
Smash Journeyman
Dair and Fair both have 37 frames total. I use Dair since you can fastfall with the cstick at the same time. I just find it easier.
ssbbFICTION
Smash Champion
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Wario > ROB
he cant recover to save his life lol.
he cant recover to save his life lol.
Gichan
Smash Champion
Fiction, does that upB out of shield only really work against ROB?
stnapknah
Smash Journeyman
ROB's pretty fat, and if he has a hurtbox on his dsmash, then I could see it being useful. Worst he could do after DIing your up B is fair, so that's not a big deal either XD
xDD-Master
Smash Champion
Is marth a bad Match-Up to Wario ? (I fight today a marth (not main) and he I rly had big problems to get hits. I tried aggressive and hit&run, both times his sword was better... i tried to Bike through him... Nair ;______
And some question (and problem) but ZSS ?
[i will try to make him second or 3rd main ^^]
And some question (and problem) but ZSS ?
[i will try to make him second or 3rd main ^^]
YagamiDark
Smash Journeyman
It's not terrible. It's like 55:45 or something in Marths favor IIRC. Play defensively, don't rush in or you'll get a facefull of fair. Just be patient I guess, but I'm no marth expert. If he's being fair spammy then approach with Bair (I think).
It's like 60:40 actually, our other "hard" ones are 55:45.
Yeah cuz robs recovery is so bad...>.<
wario has a sexy bike plus a manly fart....u dont see metaknight do that because metaknight sux..
lol
b0wzr!
Smash Cadet
Anyone know a good secoundary character for Wario?
I have a torny coming up on saturday, and I was just wondering against some of Wario's bad match-ups or stages.
I was thinking G&W / Snake / Marth?
I have a torny coming up on saturday, and I was just wondering against some of Wario's bad match-ups or stages.
I was thinking G&W / Snake / Marth?
MorphedChaos
Smash Lord
MK, Wario has no bad matchups besides Marth, and MK counters marth.
furiousduffmanx
Smash Lord
My wario is just breaking down.... not a good thing since WHOBO is a few days away. I keep getting shield grabbed, and even grabbed before i jump. The more i try to not get grabbed the more i get grabbed.... I never used to play like this, i think i am just not spot dodging enough. I used to be good at the ice climbers..., now i get *****.: Any one want give me some words of wisdom for me to revive my wario???
Popertop
Smash Champion
don't play wario for a while, don't play for a while
when you take breaks from the game, you tend to get rid of bad habits you may be developing.
just take a break, and then right before you need to get serious, play a couple friendlies to get used to everything again.
Gichan
Smash Champion
I don't know anything about getting out of ZSS' grab release, I hope someone could answer that, it would be **** helpful.
And Popertop, that's some great advice, I happen to fall in those bad habits to, like I once had this stupid habit of constantly pressing L while trying to TDI. It was so annoying, but I did what you mentioned and it stopped. So duffman, do it, it will help you.
Now for my question of the day, up to what percent does nair to bite work till? Like if the opponent is at 40%, would it still work? I find that to be a great approach, most of the times they will be waiting for the fsmash.
And Popertop, that's some great advice, I happen to fall in those bad habits to, like I once had this stupid habit of constantly pressing L while trying to TDI. It was so annoying, but I did what you mentioned and it stopped. So duffman, do it, it will help you.
Now for my question of the day, up to what percent does nair to bite work till? Like if the opponent is at 40%, would it still work? I find that to be a great approach, most of the times they will be waiting for the fsmash.
It will always work if it trips, what percent it stops being guaranteed at depends on opponents' characters and DI.
ssbbFICTION
Smash Champion
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Wario can bike out of grab release d-smash. Michael Haye does not fail me ever haha.
Lol, if that's true they pretty much lost their only chance at beating a good Wario.
CO18
Smash Hero
Yo how do you throw warios bike diagonally. I see fiction do it alot
Comon, CO18... that's easy stuff, lol
It's pretty much the best way to throw the thing. Just do a dsmash throw (mash down + A at the same time) and it'll bounce to the side you're facing instead of straight in place.
CO18
Smash Hero
My bad im not a wario expert lol
ssbbFICTION
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I c stick it down...its usualy the best choice for edgeguarding with it
But You're Used To Pressing Down
Gichan
Smash Champion
Just play MK or G&W, you'll be pro in a week.
Popertop
Smash Champion
now now lets not be condescending