DoH
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Yeah and you have 3 frames to do it. Easy mode.
This is coming from Matron Peach
This is coming from Matron Peach
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VaNz Stuff.. about Peach (Tactical Discussion)
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It's really easy to visually confirm with Peach, too, cause she's kinda skinny, and her shield is pretty big.
But I only know how to powershield lasers and stray dairs (sometimes).
But I only know how to powershield lasers and stray dairs (sometimes).
darkatma
Smash Hero
a huge part of melee is recognizing patterns in the opponent's gameplay (as well as your own gameplay)So this whole jump when u r going to be shined thing kinda falls apart when u realize shine is a 1 frame move and u cant react and jump in time to avoid it and the only way this jump idea works is if they telegraph it and dont do some other attack first
I have no problem reacting and jumping in cases where I know the opponent tends to throw out a shine, and it gets me out of the situation no problem.
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VaNz locked my falco thread
wtf
racism
wtf
racism
Wake
Smash Master
How did ShroudedOne get banned?
Cia
das kwl
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Rosedemon
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Pertinent question!
Wake
Smash Master
I asked him. He asked to be banned. He doesn't like the boards right now, specifically the tier list thread.
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Wake
Smash Master
Poor white people.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I blame Bing, NAGACE, TheCrimsonBlur, and Bones. And probably more people, but those four came to mind immediately.
Actually, I scratch off Bones because a funny meme is being made about him and Bones logic is so deep it actually satisfied TIM's Christian.
Actually, I scratch off Bones because a funny meme is being made about him and Bones logic is so deep it actually satisfied TIM's Christian.
Jethrotex
Smash Journeyman
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I asked to be banned.
Guess I'm a limp-wristed attention hoe.
Oh wait we already knew that.
Guess I'm a limp-wristed attention hoe.
Oh wait we already knew that.
Wake
Smash Master
Yeah he just wanted a break from the boards.
Wake
Smash Master
I had a crush on Justin Timberlake when I was in elementary school. I love that gif though.
N.A.G.A.C.E
Smash Champion
darkatma
Smash Hero
to be fair, a lot of the posts you make here aren't very informed either...
but it's obviously fine because you do okay against good EC people, even though I have never heard of you :D
but it's obviously fine because you do okay against good EC people, even though I have never heard of you :D
N.A.G.A.C.E
Smash Champion
Ouch shots fired. I happen to know a lot about this game, i just am not that great at getting my point across in writing. Much better at talking and explaing in person
And yea its weird i am getting to a point where some people i have never met tell me they have heard of me while many others still dont know who i am
And yea its weird i am getting to a point where some people i have never met tell me they have heard of me while many others still dont know who i am
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Alan do I still have the best posts in the tier list thread?
darkatma
Smash Hero
I think it's also because i can't stalk you on youtube to find a general ballpark of how good you are, because you don't come up in searches
I didn't mean to come off as really offensive, it's just that I pride myself in at least having heard of 99% of the "good" players, which is why I was surprised that you sound so sure of your advice in each comment
Unrelated edit: once Zac uploads those matches from the weekend I'd very much enjoy some critique.. although the only set that was recorded that I lost in I went sheik :x
I didn't mean to come off as really offensive, it's just that I pride myself in at least having heard of 99% of the "good" players, which is why I was surprised that you sound so sure of your advice in each comment
Unrelated edit: once Zac uploads those matches from the weekend I'd very much enjoy some critique.. although the only set that was recorded that I lost in I went sheik :x
N.A.G.A.C.E
Smash Champion
i wont argue i have bad posts here, but i will ask whats the point in trying to write good posts when in the past when i ask serious questions i am at best ignored and at worst made fun of by macd calling me a try hard like thats a bad thing?
@darkatma: atm i am kinda happy i am still kinda a secret. but i play with good players all the time (the most frequent well known good player being g$) so yes i might not be that well known but when i give advise on certain mu's i make sure to know what i am talking about through experience. i never give advice on things i dont know about like the doc mu.
@darkatma: atm i am kinda happy i am still kinda a secret. but i play with good players all the time (the most frequent well known good player being g$) so yes i might not be that well known but when i give advise on certain mu's i make sure to know what i am talking about through experience. i never give advice on things i dont know about like the doc mu.
Rosedemon
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I dont understand the correlation between you asking a question and you making a good post?
From what i've seen, almost every ignored question isnt answered because its so simple you can find it in a plethora of places (like the OP) or deduce it yourself. Sometimes questions are ignored simply because we're having a more interesting and invested conversation. Of course if my question was ignored, i'd look for other avenues to ask it and I wouldnt suddenly lose all hope in regards to posting.
So if you dont see a point in coming up with decent posts then is there a reason to take offense when you're blamed for being a bad poster?
Also to piggy back off Binyan, I think the reason he takes offense with your advice is that even though you say its based off of your own experiences its often shallow or wrong and that most likely stems from you being a less skilled player. Now please take no offense to that because I use it as a simple comparison word (and compared to Atma you ARE a lower skilled player). Im not one of those players who thinks that if you're not at the top you dont have an opinion but I have seen you question advice based on your own expriences which frankly arent as deep as the ones in question.
From what i've seen, almost every ignored question isnt answered because its so simple you can find it in a plethora of places (like the OP) or deduce it yourself. Sometimes questions are ignored simply because we're having a more interesting and invested conversation. Of course if my question was ignored, i'd look for other avenues to ask it and I wouldnt suddenly lose all hope in regards to posting.
So if you dont see a point in coming up with decent posts then is there a reason to take offense when you're blamed for being a bad poster?
Also to piggy back off Binyan, I think the reason he takes offense with your advice is that even though you say its based off of your own experiences its often shallow or wrong and that most likely stems from you being a less skilled player. Now please take no offense to that because I use it as a simple comparison word (and compared to Atma you ARE a lower skilled player). Im not one of those players who thinks that if you're not at the top you dont have an opinion but I have seen you question advice based on your own expriences which frankly arent as deep as the ones in question.
N.A.G.A.C.E
Smash Champion
i am going to disagree with your statement that most of the questions i ask r easily found out like in places like the op. also who is to say i dont find my answers through different avenues?
I would say mostly i dont give shallow advice (i know recently he asked about the marth mu and i purposely gave shallow advice, but not counting that 1). now i wont argue if i am i better or worst player then atma but i want to ask how u would know one way or the other? i dont believe we have ever met and any/all vids of me playing r woefully outdated.
now the advice i questioned i am guessing is the idea to jump so the shine gives u no lag when it hits. if this is in fact what u r talking about asking how one could react in time to a 1 frame move and questioning if the advice is worth anything is two different things. if this is not the advice u r talking about i would still say i most likely asked more about it to get a deeper understanding of how to use the advice.
I would say mostly i dont give shallow advice (i know recently he asked about the marth mu and i purposely gave shallow advice, but not counting that 1). now i wont argue if i am i better or worst player then atma but i want to ask how u would know one way or the other? i dont believe we have ever met and any/all vids of me playing r woefully outdated.
now the advice i questioned i am guessing is the idea to jump so the shine gives u no lag when it hits. if this is in fact what u r talking about asking how one could react in time to a 1 frame move and questioning if the advice is worth anything is two different things. if this is not the advice u r talking about i would still say i most likely asked more about it to get a deeper understanding of how to use the advice.
darkatma
Smash Hero
East Coast is outdated =[
They're running out of good players
@NAGACE: I have no qualms with you questioning my advice. It forces me to be more explicit and helps me understand what I'm trying to say better too. Plus I'm just another mediocre player, so the advice I give isn't the same as say, Armada giving advice.
Going back to jumping out when you expect a shine, I can point out a few scenarios in which it would be helpful.
1)Fox drill->shines your shield. Usually, I'll just wait until they try to wavedash past, because that's a free nair out of shield, but if you know the certain fox is very good at hitting his techskill, you could jump out right after the drill, which will get you hit with the shine, allowing you to escape the shield pressure and potentially get a nice combo starter out of it.
2)You are getting waveshined across the stage. Usually, you're dead in this situation if they do the sequence right. If they mess up, you're usually holding shield so that you can pop a shield up so you can defend against the shine if they miss. You can alternatively try jumping (example: try to do a nair) at the appropriate time, and if they shine you out of your jump, you're safe from the waveshine and can punish if they're still trying to wavedash towards you
3)Nair->Shine is actually the classic situation where you can escape combos. When fox hits you with a strong nair, don't CC it. Instead, wait for the shine, and then use it to combo the fox. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHE8M5zNMoY&t=1m34s If pink shinobi realized he got nair shined and did a dtilt or dsmash instead of shielding, he could've turned the scuffle around in his favor more quickly.
And now some clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloEjCKvCf0&t=3m1s jumping out turns out to be a good option in many situations because you can either nair or get hit by the shine
here's the nair->shine escape that i was talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloEjCKvCf0&t=4m1s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFyq-TGyMCc&t=0m18s
drill->shine escape
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFyq-TGyMCc&t=1m49s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFyq-TGyMCc&t=1m59s
the second one is just plain beautiful, what happened was armada purposely floated a little high up so that he would be in the air after the drill, then he knew he would have no stun after the shine and got a free dsmash. He does this a lot against falco's dair at low percents too, to get the dsmash off.
alright done watching matches for tonight, I'll point out more things when I watch more armada.
I'd say the average peach skill level has gone up a lot since armada showed us everything. If you guys are interested in seeing successful Armada clones, look up some recent Vwins and Bladwise vids, they've been beating out their regions and getting 1st recently, and the stuff they do is like little seedlings from Armada's amazing repertoire of stuff
They're running out of good players
@NAGACE: I have no qualms with you questioning my advice. It forces me to be more explicit and helps me understand what I'm trying to say better too. Plus I'm just another mediocre player, so the advice I give isn't the same as say, Armada giving advice.
Going back to jumping out when you expect a shine, I can point out a few scenarios in which it would be helpful.
1)Fox drill->shines your shield. Usually, I'll just wait until they try to wavedash past, because that's a free nair out of shield, but if you know the certain fox is very good at hitting his techskill, you could jump out right after the drill, which will get you hit with the shine, allowing you to escape the shield pressure and potentially get a nice combo starter out of it.
2)You are getting waveshined across the stage. Usually, you're dead in this situation if they do the sequence right. If they mess up, you're usually holding shield so that you can pop a shield up so you can defend against the shine if they miss. You can alternatively try jumping (example: try to do a nair) at the appropriate time, and if they shine you out of your jump, you're safe from the waveshine and can punish if they're still trying to wavedash towards you
3)Nair->Shine is actually the classic situation where you can escape combos. When fox hits you with a strong nair, don't CC it. Instead, wait for the shine, and then use it to combo the fox. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHE8M5zNMoY&t=1m34s If pink shinobi realized he got nair shined and did a dtilt or dsmash instead of shielding, he could've turned the scuffle around in his favor more quickly.
And now some clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloEjCKvCf0&t=3m1s jumping out turns out to be a good option in many situations because you can either nair or get hit by the shine
here's the nair->shine escape that i was talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloEjCKvCf0&t=4m1s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFyq-TGyMCc&t=0m18s
drill->shine escape
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFyq-TGyMCc&t=1m49s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFyq-TGyMCc&t=1m59s
the second one is just plain beautiful, what happened was armada purposely floated a little high up so that he would be in the air after the drill, then he knew he would have no stun after the shine and got a free dsmash. He does this a lot against falco's dair at low percents too, to get the dsmash off.
alright done watching matches for tonight, I'll point out more things when I watch more armada.
I'd say the average peach skill level has gone up a lot since armada showed us everything. If you guys are interested in seeing successful Armada clones, look up some recent Vwins and Bladwise vids, they've been beating out their regions and getting 1st recently, and the stuff they do is like little seedlings from Armada's amazing repertoire of stuff
MacD
Banned via Administration
apparently i've been good at striking nerves recently
but i have a question. you type out such a medium sized response with multiple paragraphs, use at least moderately good vocab, but you put "u" and "r" instead of taking the extra half second to hit the other 2 keys per word. why?
but i have a question. you type out such a medium sized response with multiple paragraphs, use at least moderately good vocab, but you put "u" and "r" instead of taking the extra half second to hit the other 2 keys per word. why?
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Cia
das kwl
I have not been giving advice at all lately.
But to be fair, none of you ask short questions anymore. I have to read a paragraph or watch a freaking video to help anyone..
Keep it short and sweet. And I'll answer the best I know I how.
But to be fair, none of you ask short questions anymore. I have to read a paragraph or watch a freaking video to help anyone..
Keep it short and sweet. And I'll answer the best I know I how.
darkatma
Smash Hero
I stand by my statement DoH
There's..
Hax...
and that's my list of active good EC players LOL
Unless you want to count
M2k
Vanz
even though they're technically Ohio
and..
Chudat on adderall is good too
Love the gif btw, I've stared at it for at least 70 loops LOL
There's..
Hax...
and that's my list of active good EC players LOL
Unless you want to count
M2k
Vanz
even though they're technically Ohio
and..
Chudat on adderall is good too
Love the gif btw, I've stared at it for at least 70 loops LOL
N.A.G.A.C.E
Smash Champion
Atma at locals i have to deal with hax, jman, alucard, and dj nintendo to name a few.
I know some dont but if u consider Florida east coast which it should be we got hbox and friends.
Also can someone remind me where dr pp is from i cant remember
Edit: also thanks for those links in your post they are helpful in understanding what u meant
I know some dont but if u consider Florida east coast which it should be we got hbox and friends.
Also can someone remind me where dr pp is from i cant remember
Edit: also thanks for those links in your post they are helpful in understanding what u meant
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I'm not going to give the wrong impression, nor make a mountain out of a molehill (hopefully this doesn't turn into anything), but I'm just going to say this: Alan, it was stupid, but for different reasons than what you listed. Wasn't an act of "I'm starved for attention" or anything, that was the last thing on my mind. Was just feeling numerous things yesterday (related to SWF and not related to it), and felt like it'd be healthier for me to do that.
Yeah, a silly way to go about it, I don't disagree there, but I don't exactly like what you were implying. :\
Yeah, a silly way to go about it, I don't disagree there, but I don't exactly like what you were implying. :\
Rosedemon
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When anyone goes to those lengths to get away from something they see as toxic, I always call it out.
Uninstalling LoL, cancelling your WoW subscription, asking to be banned on a forum - these are all laughable things to me that just seem so trivial.
If you cant distance yourself from something you think is toxic (the fact that you acknowledge its not good for you at the time is already a step forward) then taking artificial means to get rid of it is frankly sad and more importantly wont work. It may give you a moments reprieve, but the likelihood of it happening again is still present.
It wasnt a cry for attention, I see that (I actually didnt think it was in your case but I often associate it with that based on past experiences) but my above statement still stands. Maybe its because I've never been in the situation before (where I KNOW something isnt good for me and I cant personally cut it out) which is why I simply dont get it.
Uninstalling LoL, cancelling your WoW subscription, asking to be banned on a forum - these are all laughable things to me that just seem so trivial.
If you cant distance yourself from something you think is toxic (the fact that you acknowledge its not good for you at the time is already a step forward) then taking artificial means to get rid of it is frankly sad and more importantly wont work. It may give you a moments reprieve, but the likelihood of it happening again is still present.
It wasnt a cry for attention, I see that (I actually didnt think it was in your case but I often associate it with that based on past experiences) but my above statement still stands. Maybe its because I've never been in the situation before (where I KNOW something isnt good for me and I cant personally cut it out) which is why I simply dont get it.
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Alan knows his stuff. Agreed 100%. I feel the same way about people who want to quit smoking but always relapse.
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I agree 100%, also, Alan. When I read your post yesterday, I kinda frowned, but then I was like, "He's right, this is stupid." In most cases, it's not the activity itself (LoL, smoking, the internet) that causes the issue, but the poor ways in which people decide to deal with them. Knee jerk reactions to situations never work.
North CarolinaAlso can someone remind me where dr pp is from i cant remember
it's kinda south, kinda east coast. depends on the tourney lol
hi peach boards! =)