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I don't think so. I don't remember the stipulations of said promise though so I couldn't fulfill it even if I wanted to. XDHey OS did you ever make good on that MK cake promise
I find this hilarious, considering its coming from the guy who has the tendency to post with the ignorance of a 10 year old, which reflected back so well on the URC as a whole.As we added **** people to the URC, the stink started to appear.
LOL, he's still butthurt.URC sucked ****, you can't just say "MK is banned forever, if you don't like it SUCKS FOR U" and any ruleset they don't like they can't use
THEN force people to use their ruleset or they don't get stickied. Something like that would never stick around.
wish I woulda known that would happen before I gave my controller away to Nietono at apex though <_<
I've heard this many times, but he doesn't act like it a lot of the times he posts. Thats where the problem lies, and it makes many people think he's not mature at all :3.Ironically enough, I always found Xyro to be the most mature URC member there is.
Wow, this is actually very cool. I always felt MK on RC and Norfair was a bit overrated and Delfino was def worse, although I guess its still speculation. Granted this may just be the pikachu in me talking, but I think a stage really needs prevalent sharking for MK to take his full advantage on it and RC/Norfair/Halberd dont quite make the cut compared to Brinstar/Delfino. I actually love fighting MK on Norfair as pika.Overswarm awesome big post
kaljsdfadjfakdnWell anyone can do what they want now
There's ALWAYS room for more data. But when it comes to making decisions, current data is always king. You've gotta keep that as the status quo; you can't say "well, the data says this, so I agree with it... except for this one thing, cuz it's dumb", because that defeats the purpose.Wow, this is actually very cool. I always felt MK on RC and Norfair was a bit overrated and Delfino was def worse, although I guess its still speculation. Granted this may just be the pikachu in me talking, but I think a stage really needs prevalent sharking for MK to take his full advantage on it and RC/Norfair/Halberd dont quite make the cut compared to Brinstar/Delfino. I actually love fighting MK on Norfair as pika.
Well I dunno about you, but around here we typically do have those stages, at least at any tournament with a worthwhile TO.Honestly though, I think the problem with RC/Brinstar wasnt that they were strong stages for MK (not that it didnt contribute) but that an extremely large portion of the community simply hates the stages for whatever given reason. They do kind of set themselves out from the rest of the stagelist though in terms of their characteristics (not saying its good or bad, they just stand out). This was what I came to find when asking opinions, and that many of those that wanted MK gone also wanted RC/Brinstar gone as well. Apex was sort of the last straw for everyone that tolerated them beforehand to just start getting rid of it in mass regardless of whether MK was banned or not.
Were just a community that enjoys rule tampering, but as Ive said before thats just something anyone that becomes part of the community has to accept in most regions. Granted I think theres a community for those who disagree with that, but eh, not that big a deal imo and too much effort. lol.
Also LOL at the -13 on pikachu. Dat ESAM.
Edit: Also I think its a bit funny/sad that pro-ban thought banning MK would be the saving grace for those two stages, LOL. And then got upset when the community didnt act in a logical manner about it. I totally read that if MK got banned those two stages would be next. Much can be said about the where the URC failed, but one of the biggest imo was that they refused to ban these stages when there was a stronger call to do so than to ban MK. For some reason beyond me though, many people thought banning MK would lead to a brawl nirvana where we removed the lgl and added controversial stages. Yeah.....
Hey Overswarm, could I kindly request a copy of the raw data for this? I'd really like to comb over something like this without re-doing the data-taking myself.-charts pieces of raw data-
Thanks a bunch. If I find anything interesting, I'll post again.
I agree strongly with this; however the players have an aversion to filling match slips.I would love for the next smash to be started with some serious data mining efforts.
It's like Brawl players feel that the best character shouldn't be played or win the most.Best character in the game winning the most money?
deary me
More than that.It's not just the fact that he's winning the most, but the fact that he's winning significantly more than the rest of the cast (iirc he makes more money than Snake Diddy and Falco combined), and I think on average he was winning 40-50% of the money made in tournament, which...shouldn't be happening in a game with like 37 characters.
That's never really been the case, nor has it been for anything smash has banned in the past. We banned items, but playing with items still result in consistent results; we've checked. We ban stages, but playing with those stages still result in consistent results there too; we checked on that for years.How much is "too much" though? Similarly to Meta Knight, Fox probably makes up 10-15% of Melee players. Over the span of 10 years we learned how to defeat Fox by outplaying Fox players despite his only having two or 3 even match-ups. No matter how you put it, saying "Look at this data. It's too much" is placing an arbitrary limit on exactly how much is needed to justify banning a character. It's also absurd because several Pro-Ban people have stated that the character is beatable; character ban criteria should be based on whether something is broken and unbeatable
Akuma from SF2 would like to speak with youBeing unbeatable is a bad criterion because no character/player is ever literally unbeatable. Saying MK is beatable is not exactly a good argument to say he isn't banworthy. I mean, by that logic, you would be okay with MK being legal even if he were winning 99% of the money in tournaments, because he occasionally gets beaten (hence the 1%) and is therefore beatable.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that he should have been banned. The point behind my last post was that it's incorrect to say that people wanted him banned because he's the best, used the most or wins the most money. People wanted him banned because they feel he is too good, used too much or wins too much money.
Edit: Ninja'd by a double post, WTF
Akuma didn't win every tournament he entered, and players could beat people that played Akuma. Unless you think Diego couldn't beat you if you played Akuma.Akuma from SF2 would like to speak with you