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I never played the original MP1 or MP2 for the GameCube, nor did I have MP3, so I bought them all on the Wii disc, all with motion control.

But I'm stuck at this one point in the first game. I think I'm supposed to get another beam weapon, but I dunno where. Basically, I just got the Boost Ball and went to the place it tells you to go next.

I'm still stuck. :p
 

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My friends and I were trying to decide where the "ghetto" (i.e, the hood, the projects, the thug life) of each Pokemon region was.

We decided upon this:

Kanto : Lavender Town
Johto : Mahogany Town
Hoenn: Rustboro City/Fallarbor Town
Sinnoh: Eterna City/Celestic Town
 

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I never played the original MP1 or MP2 for the GameCube, nor did I have MP3, so I bought them all on the Wii disc, all with motion control.

But I'm stuck at this one point in the first game. I think I'm supposed to get another beam weapon, but I dunno where. Basically, I just got the Boost Ball and went to the place it tells you to go next.

I'm still stuck. :p
Drain a pool of water to create a half-pipe, use the boost to get through, receive Ice Beam.
 

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So I'm almost done with my first playthrough of Borderlands. I'm ****ing loving the game. For some reason, games where I have a limited arsenal of weapons really annoy me. Any recommendations for what to play next?
 

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My friends and I were trying to decide where the "ghetto" (i.e, the hood, the projects, the thug life) of each Pokemon region was.

We decided upon this:

Kanto : Lavender Town
Johto : Mahogany Town
Hoenn: Rustboro City/Fallarbor Town
Sinnoh: Eterna City/Celestic Town
Nooooo

Probably larger cities. IMO

Kanto: Fuchsia / Saffron
Johto: Mahogany (hiding place for NINJAS) / Goldenrod
Hoenn: I have no idea. Probably Rustboro or maybe Lilycove
Sinnoh: Eterna City / Hearthome

Ionno

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tGbHJ7rbcE

Which theme is this?
 

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Fuschia, we decided, is too much of a tourist-y spot to have a tremendous amount of ghetto.
Saffron, I can see like "tenements".
 

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Is the pool of water from the area where you enter Tallon IV, or is it in Phendrana Drifts?
I'm pretty sure it's in Chozo Ruins; and if I remember, it's lined with those Stone Toad things that swallow you up.

And I always thought Cerulean was a bad place to live, with all the break-ins and what-not.
 

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I say it's the worst of the trilogy because it bases itself around key collecting and ONLY key collecting. The main gameplay mechanic is boring as ****, and honestly the worst part about the FIRST game was the end game key collecting(thankfully a lot of that could be done during the earlier parts of the game but if you didnt know you're supposed to be doing it you'd wind up having alot of annoying backtracking to do) Its tedious game play that degrades an otherwise amazing game.
Honestly, it does revolve around key-collecting, but I never even thought about it that way until you phrased it that way because it honestly feels more to me like you go around and sort of get the keys while getting items, just like any other game. The final hunt definitely is backtracking and key-collecting alone (unless you're gathering final expansions along the way, that is), but I don't really think of it that way.

Also the Beam ammo and Dark World do not produce more strategic game play. It just led to a lot of "Avoid attacks, spam normal blaster." Though honestly i blame that on the fact that the Dark Beam and Light Beam were just exact copies of the Ice Beam and Plasma Beam in the first game. The Ice Beam was terrible, it's slow rate of fire and projectile speed made it basically useless so they really didnt need to bring it back again =\ The Light Beam was almost good but because it wasnt the "last weapon" it wasnt nearly as powerful as its MP1 counterpart and with that drop in power it just becomes a slow firing weapon that you can for some reason run out of ammo for. I understand why they gave you ammo for the weapons, I really do, the light beam would be stupid broken in the dark world if you could use it as much as you wanted but that doesnt make it any less terrible of a mechanic.
I don't really know how else to respond to this other than to simply say that I disagree. The first time through the game I thought it was annoying as hell, the second time it felt different, and I felt limited ammo was a good choice. You say that all it does is make you spam Power Beam -- but what would be so different if there weren't Beam Ammo? Spam Dark/Light Beam instead? You think before you use the Light or Dark Beam. You try to time your shots better to make sure you don't miss because missing wastes ammo.

Also, dont compare MM to Metroid Prime 2. Majora's Mask didnt just take OoT and make it darker, it made an entire world, filled it with interesting characters and stories and destroyed the stereotypical Zelda story trend. Metroid Prime 2 is Metroid Prime 1 with the lights off. Still, Metroid Prime 1 was fun so having more of it wasnt bad, but it never actually managed to surpass the original and even managed to be worse in some spots, hence the "Worst of the trilogy" point i keep making.
...Okay, I'm not sure why you took it that way, especially since my wording was actually very lenient on the comparison. I said "I'd almost compare it to Majora's Mask IN THAT..." and explained the similarities. And you can't deny, it has its similarities. No, it didn't create the same effect in contrast to the original, but there's a similarity there.

I never said "Prime 2 = Majora's Mask", which is what I think you thought I was trying to say -- and I wasn't.

Metroid Prime 2 isnt a bad game. It's just not as good as what came before it. Metroid Prime 3 is ALSO not as good as MP1 but it's definitely better than 2.
You keep talking like this is fact, but, plain and simple, I disagree. Prime 3 took Prime 1 and basically made it more linear, took out the isolation factor, and made Phazon go from "WARNING: INTENSE RADIATION" to "Sit in it to make bubbles and restore energy!"

Your sentiments on Prime 2 are pretty much what I'd apply to Prime 3: it's not a bad game, but it's not as good as what came before it.

Is the pool of water from the area where you enter Tallon IV, or is it in Phendrana Drifts?
The spot PR's talking about is deep in the Chozo Ruins. If you JUST got the Boost Ball, you won't be going there yet. You want to go to the Tallon Overworld where they're telling you about the "half-pipe formation" and use that, and you should find the Space Jump Boots. Then you'll want to go back to the Phendrana Drifts.

Of course, were it not the Trilogy edition, you could've sequence-broken and gotten the Space Jump Boots as the first item and just stayed in the Phendrana Drifts. =P
 

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So I'm almost done with my first playthrough of Borderlands. I'm ****ing loving the game. For some reason, games where I have a limited arsenal of weapons really annoy me. Any recommendations for what to play next?
I have to agree with this, Borderlands was really, really fun to play. If you you haven't yet you should definitely pick up Mass Effect and play that.
 

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You havent actually played Prime 3, you said it yourself, you have no right to actually say anything about it lol.

And you cant aim your shots in Metroid Prime(except maybe 3 but even that's a bad idea) If you miss it's because of the way the game is set up, you have to shoot at stationary enemies or you have to be able to shoot fast enough for them not to be able to avoid quickly enough. You cant actually do that with Light/Dark Beams but that's mostly the fault of the beams themselves, not the ammo.

And you're right, 3 is more linear than 1/2. But 2 is literally too much backtracking. It's nothing BUT excessive amounts of it. There's little to no reasoning to it whatsoever. MP 1 was never exactly high on amounts of compelling story(that is, story for the actual events in game, the back story in all 3 games is immense) but at least there was some semblance of plot. MP2 is literally "You crash, you lose your items again, bad stuff is happening, GO COLLECT KEYS!"
 

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You havent actually played Prime 3, you said it yourself, you have no right to actually say anything about it lol.
Yeah, thanks Riddle for clearing that up...I'm REPLAYING the trilogy in anticipation of Other M. I've played Prime 3 almost as much as I've played Prime 2 (which is twice, all the way through), and I've played the most of Prime 1, beating it twice and getting about 3/5 of the way through the game in a file before stopping.

I've played the entire trilogy to a pretty fair extent.

And you cant aim your shots in Metroid Prime(except maybe 3 but even that's a bad idea) If you miss it's because of the way the game is set up, you have to shoot at stationary enemies or you have to be able to shoot fast enough for them not to be able to avoid quickly enough. You cant actually do that with Light/Dark Beams but that's mostly the fault of the beams themselves, not the ammo.
I'm not talking about aiming your shots -- I'm talking about enemies dodging, enemies having some sort of defense put up (e.g. Rezbits, Dark Pirate Commandos), and the like.

I personally think it made the game more strategic.

And you're right, 3 is more linear than 1/2. But 2 is literally too much backtracking. It's nothing BUT excessive amounts of it. There's little to no reasoning to it whatsoever. MP 1 was never exactly high on amounts of compelling story(that is, story for the actual events in game, the back story in all 3 games is immense) but at least there was some semblance of plot. MP2 is literally "You crash, you lose your items again, bad stuff is happening, GO COLLECT KEYS!"
Metroid is pretty much all about backtracking. Prime 2 I guess had more of it than the other games, but I didn't really mind it.

And there was definitely a plot in Prime 2. You're trying to find the GF Troopers with whom communication was lost. Going through the atmosphere, the ship gets all screwed up from Dark Aether. You find the zombie troopers and then wind up losing your items to the Ing when you follow someone resembling you [Dark Samus] into a portal. You learn what happened to the GF Troopers, then wind up in the Great Temple where U-Mos explains to you that the Ing have ravaged the planet and that, if not taken care of, they'll finish destroying Aether and move onto other planets to destroy.

Etc. etc.

Pretty much, I don't see the point in this debate, because you don't like Prime 2 -- and that's perfectly fine -- but we're not going to agree on this, we'll just keep going back and forth with opinions.
 

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All right, like it less than the other two games.

Pretty much irrelevant, I just have no desire to continue this debate anymore.
 

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I have to agree with this, Borderlands was really, really fun to play. If you you haven't yet you should definitely pick up Mass Effect and play that.
I actually haven't, since I just got a decent computer a month ago. Gah, just
hit the giant plot twist at The Final Piece
in Borderlands.
 

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I actually haven't, since I just got a decent computer a month ago. Gah, just
hit the giant plot twist at The Final Piece
in Borderlands.
Me and my friends are doing a borderlands LAN every other week and I think we got to like lv 30 so far, so I do not know what mission we are on. It is a great game, I just wish I didn't stuck being Lilith,lol but she does add much to elemental weapons. Just poppin' ****** berserks with my 239 powered corrosive revolver.
 

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I'm a level 34 soldier (whatever his name is, I dunno), though my main weapon is a 298 damage sniper rifle that shoots exploding bullets. Kind of wish I'd chosen the sniper guy or siren, to be honest.
 

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Yeah, I'd say that Celadon is the slum area. Pollution tends to create low housing costs, and casinos tend to attract crime. Mix the two and you basically get Pokemon's closest relation to a real-life slum (or 'ghetto', if that's what you'd like to call it).

Thank goodness for Sim City.
 

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I've been having an overwhelming urge to play Borderlands again. I think that's one game I'm going to end up feeling surprisingly nostalgic for at some point in the future, like Darkwatch from last gen.
 

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I didn't realize that it was massively multiplayer. You'd think I would have noticed.
 

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So I take it that if I suddenly start talking about something that isn't borderlands that I'll just get totally ignored.

Say, like Knights of the Old Republic. (old, I know, but still...)

Opinions? :3
 

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I played Borderlands a few times on the 360. It's not a MMORPG there, but it still plays a lot like one in that you have to go around several different settings and complete quests to advance. I got bored of it really quickly since half the time you're just running around collecting/killing/destroying stuff and combat isn't exactly thrilling.

Say, like Knights of the Old Republic. (old, I know, but still...)

Opinions? :3
Hey, I know that game. Played it quite a lot on my original Xbox. I felt the story was a bit convoluted, but that might just have been me not being old enough to understand everything.
 

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I didn't realize that it was massively multiplayer. You'd think I would have noticed.
Borderlands is an MMORPG?

Is it like that on the Xbox 360?
Did i say it was an MMORPG? No. I said it PLAYS like one. Slow, repetitive and all the missions seemed to be not much more than "Kill x amount of things to collect y amount of items."

/MMO
 

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I'll buy Borderlands when they stop making DLC for the game and bundle all of them into a GOTY edition so I get the most value out of my purchase.
 

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PR, that's like complaining that Pokémon is just a game of attacking other Pokémon.
I'll buy Borderlands when they stop making DLC for the game and bundle all of them into a GOTY edition so I get the most value out of my purchase.
It was 75% off on Steam, so... I got it then.
 

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So, to anyone who is getting Metroid: Other M, I'm not getting it until Octoberish, but let me know how the gameplay goes. (Got to get some other stuff done :x)

Also, boring repeatitive stuff isn't always boring to everyone. I bred on Pokemon, and I like Maplestory XD.
<3 Level 69 Dual Blade(Thief) and I don't mind the quests like that =[
 

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So, to anyone who is getting Metroid: Other M, I'm not getting it until Octoberish, but let me know how the gameplay goes. (Got to get some other stuff done :x)

Also, boring repeatitive stuff isn't always boring to everyone. I bred on Pokemon, and I like Maplestory XD.
<3 Level 69 Dual Blade(Thief) and I don't mind the quests like that =[
Oh hey how you doing?



Man, if I were to get at least ONE thing for my birthday, it'd have to be that CoDBO Hardened Edition. Nazi Zombie maps, the game, AN RC CAR? Man, I'd go nuts with all that bullcrap
 

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I'm doing good, how about you? Been working a lot, among other things.

My problem is is that I've got Drakengard/DarkCloud/Metroid Prime Trilogy(5/9)/Pokemon/Bten Kaitos/Some FF game and it's like... yeah I don't need other m right now. (Ontop of Maplestory) And Since I work and stuff, nothing gets done...

So I'm trying to beat Drakengard..but getting 100% is so boring. And Dark Cloud as well.

really, I want Other m now, but I know I would never play it until around October.

Anyways...in other news, I found my Nidoqueen key chain :D
 
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